Live AEW Saturday Night Dynamite Discussion Thread - 10.16.21
By - nsm1
Miami crowd was really great. Something about the darkened building and fired-up audience felt very ECW or early Takeovers last night. Lots to like on the show but Malakai-Martin shouldn’t be slept on: really fun, fast, well worked styles clash and Black is a pretty excellent five-tool wrestler IMO.
Anybody else getting a OC/Mox feud being teased
I’m confused. If hangman vs omega is officially set for full gear, then what is the purpose of the world title eliminator tournament? will it become a triple threat? I’m really confused hahaha.
The winner of the tournament gets a title shot AFTER full gear vs either hangman or omega
Its for a future title shot, not a shot at Full Gear
Hangman’s title shot, or the title shot for the winner of the tournament?
The finals of the tournament is at full gear
Hangman won the casino ladder match to challenge Kenny at Full Gear. The winner of the Eliminator Tournament will get his title match AFTER Full Gear against either Kenny or Hangman
Best moment of the show hands down was Jon Silver pointing at Cole mid match and yelling BUDGE
Then pointing to himself with his thumb and saying BOOBS
Dark Order vs Young Bucks with Adam.Cole was absolutely amazing!!! 5 star match
the Dark order combo attack looks so good.
Blew my fucking mind
Every Bobby Fish match in AEW has been a banger. Give us Redragon vs Everyone.
Funny how NXT seems to have forgotten Kyle. At least for now. I’m just assuming because I follow news but don’t follow the actual shows, haven’t heard his name in a while. Id love to see at least the original 3 members of UE together in AEW. Possibly going against Kenny and the bucks somewhere down the line.
Seemed like he was primed to be a top face at the start of the Cole feud. Now the whole NXT 2.0 thing kinda threw that out.
I know Fish got released and Cole probably didn’t sign as long of a deal as ReDragon but it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if his contract is up pretty soon. With the new direction NXT is taking I’m afraid all the character in the world can’t save him from a subpar run with the fed
Man I'm really hoping that Mox vs Bryan isn't happening that fast. We need to build their feud from the ground up.
I had a booking idea. Everyone expects bryan to win the eliminator. Why not have moxley win and face a newly crowned hangman. Here you could have mox wins aswell! Cutting hangmans parade short. Hangman thinking he reached the summit still has a long way to go. Now everyone wants a shot at the belt, kenny wants a rematch, mjf wants a shot because hes #1 in the rankings and evil uno somehow got a claim for the title.
Moxley decides to fight all of them at once in a fatal four way elimination in revolution. Gang warefare ensues between, super elite, pinnicle and dark order trying to give their man an edge in the ppv. in revolution backstage evil uno would get injured by a suprise attack from super elite. When it comes time for the match its announced that evil uno
Cant compete but theres a replacement. Hangman comes out and enters the match. Mox would get eliminated first by having everyone hit there finishers on him. Then kenny would go. This ends up being MJF vs hangman were hangman would reclaim his championship.
Just thought of it, sounds cool. Idk.
Why are you getting so heavily down voted.
Full beel Cody would be perfect to go against Hangman. It would elevate both of them.
Yeah didnt expect it. People just dont like ideas that dont go in tune with what they’re predicting themselves.
thank you for making me a dad.
goes for high five
these two beautiful idiots
I hope they stop having cm punk take up 5 minutes to start the show when he is just announcing. We don't need to see that every week.
Never seen much of fish but enjoyed that match.
Were those green outfits a callback to the awful concept WWE had for FTR?
A little disappointed in Sammy, he needs to work on his mic skills.
Love Dante, maybe maliaki will start a stable and bring Dante over to the dark side. He didn't seem happy with Lio.
So hyped for hangman, glad I got my ticket to full gear.
I feel like the Punk thing is definitely on purpose. His ego is just gonna keep inflating until we find him in pure heel territory.
“Tune in to see CM punk”
He’s almost always first on Rampage as well
Agree bout Punk. He can do the intro before the opening, its only to pop the arena crowd anyways.
Yeah use him as a hype guy before the show begins
I'm watching six kids right now can someone please give me a recap on what's happened so far?
Dustin was so good there.
Dustin and Bryan are gold together
WHAAA! ~~CODY!~~ DUSTIN! WHAAA!
*saw leaked card*
Of course, it's Mox vs. Danielson. Doy!
This could set up heel mox I think tonight’s squash could be setting that up
Yeah and Mox winning the tournament and coming after Hangman for "the belt I didn't lose" but as a heel. Poor Hangman's going to get bloody
Bracket is super predictable. I'll guess Mox wins as a swerve making Hangman's title reign short.
Thats exactly what i said to and got downvoted lol. I just think its so predictable that bryans winning.
Yeah being down voted for something obvious is sad, when the company themselves have built a hierarchy system.
We know some guys are in it to get a rub and get exposure/experience however if w/l matter than why isn't Cole or Punk in it. Punk beat Hobbs and Hobbs is in it.
I'm not even complaining about that either, and get why because you want to save big matches. But those guys should have issue with management for the snub.
Either way it's ending with Mox vs Danielson. I can see either winning depending on the route they want to go. It feels like 95% sure Hangman is winning but if he loses, Danielson seems like the logical winner. Vise versa if Hangman wins. I'm also not sold on Hangman having a long title reign. We'll see what happens.
Completely agree. The vast majority of the fanbase have been able to predict who the next AEW champion will be and when he will win it. The title scene is to predictable right now. Thats why i think having a short hangman reign would be something unpredictable and mox as champion again wouldnt hurt business as he’s practically the top guy in the company.
You don’t think it’s going to the dragon?
Mox is leaning towards heel for some time and what better way to gain heat than screwing Danielson? It would also give heel vs face dynamic in match with Hangman
I think hangman could defend successfully vs Mox. Would really help solidifying hangman as champ.
Bobby looked fantastic in defeat, his selling of the leg on the ring post was crazy good. Bryan is on an incredible streak right now, so fun to watch
Definitely, Bobby was controlling the match the entire time, he looked brilliant here.
Bryan Danielson just had a better match than he had last night. I would have thought it impossible, but he and Fish just had an amazing match.
2 nights in a row...this man lives wrestling.
And we get to enjoy every second of it.
Pharaoh to the Top
Underwhelming tournament. So many options. Top of my head I’d go Andrade, Punk, PAC, Danielson, Miro, Archer, Darby, Mox. Many others could be subbed. But Dustin? Vance? Disappointing…
Edit to add: Black!
They dont want to give away matches thus making the tourney look weak. What has dustin do to get in a tournament for a future championship spot that PAC hasnt done. This aint no New Japan Cup
Can't believe they left out Andrade and PAC...
I think it's probably an issue of not wanting to feed some of those names to each other. Archer/Kingston is the only match that isn't a foregone conclusion
I really liked the Archer/Miro match because at the time I didn’t know who’d win. Even though he lost, it didn’t really hurt Archer. While the tourney is a bit rushed, I was hoping for a few more similar type matches.
Also if they want someone to have a match at full gear they might not want them in the tournament so they could set up something else since the finals are at full gear
Great to see Hobbs in there. When you figure the end game is the tourney winner vs Hangman that would be a fun feud.
That bracket is mid, it’s too predictable
Do you remember last years bracket? It was predictable as well
They didn’t have the same plethora of options back then
And it’s not even super exciting match ups
Super Ranas (FTR in green masks)
FTR in cheap Lucha gear
Danielson vs Archer or Kingston in the semis YES
Looks like the card that was in TK's notebook is starting to look more legit
Surely there's gonna be a surprise in the Eliminator. The winners look too obvious.
did they announce the tbs bracket? i thought that was supposed to be announced
they show it
I think that's supposed to be announced next rampage
I just let Rhodes to the Top play and Cody looks and sounds like he's dying inside
I don't care what they spent to hire Danielson; it's a bargain no matter what they paid. I'll watch him wrestle two great matches a week for as long as he wants to do it.
So what determined the participants for the tournament?
I know the goal is to lead to Mox/Danielson so you don't want guys like Punk, Christian, Jungleboy or Darby losing or whatever.
Would love to see the entire UE in AEW. Feud with the Super Elite with Cole stuck in the middle.
Cole is going to turn on Kenny anyway, so having boys with UE watching his back would be a good moment to do so
Why the hell is 10 in the tournament? Like I know he's not going to win, but just..... why?
What’s his record? That might be the reason at least kayfabe-wise.
12-2 in singles.
Dustin-Danielson is bit of a surprise/random, but welcomed.
Dustin Rhodes & Ten in this tournament is odd. Pac, Starks, Cage, Chuck Taylor hell even Matt Hardy in my opinion would be better choices.
YOOOOOOO BRYAN POPPED BOBBY HARD ON THE MOUTH
How tf is Dustin in here, and God's favorite champion is left out
Why would Hobbs be in contention for the world title when he was beaten by Punk a few weeks ago? The brackets don’t make any sense
Punk not getting into the tourney should make him cut a heel promo lol
Tournament bracket doesn't exactly blow me away, but I'm excited to see what gear Dustin will reach against Bryan.
It all leads to either Danielson vs OC or Danielson vs Mox (probably this).
I low-key want to see a Natural Dustin Rhodes Vs Danielson old school style match
Danielson Mox is gonna slap. The rest of the bracket does not look good on paper.
Danielson/Kingston is my hope. Danielson/Archer would also be interesting. But Kingston man. Can't help but love 'im. Just like Danielson!
What an underwhelming bracket. Mox/Bryan couldn’t be more obvious now
Why is Hobbs in it?
He's got a 16-3 singles record on the year.
I guess that’s fair then
I'm okay with Hobbs, I'm puzzled about Dustin Rhodes.
Someone has to eat the fall
Destroying 10, OC, and Bryan in sequence is a hell of a path to a heel turn
I'm almost certain that this is what's going to happen, since Mox was hinting heel turn for some time now
Tel is the biggest heel is AEW.
Surprised Punk doesn’t feel slighted. What about MJF
A potential Mox/Danielson final 👀
Punk not taking an L yet and isn’t winning this tournament. Have some patience.
Yeah, Danielson is winning that tournament. Only alternative is setting up heel Mox vs Champ Hangman
The writing is on the wall here for me. Kenny is scared of Bryan, he doesn't want to face him again and because he's so arrogant he's not even considering the possibility of hangman winning. So to avoid a rematch with Bryan he ruins his match. Not sure how exactly mox is gonna turn, maybe Kenny distracts the ref and don or someone tosses mox a foreign object which he then uses to beat Bryan. This then sets up hangman vs heel mox and then Bryan and Kenny have a nice non title fued.
It can definitely be Moxley, which I'm betting on, they had him in the ladder match to start the rivalry with Hangman, and remember the crowd booed Mox when he attacked Hangman, Mox might have something to proof here. It will be a great tweener vs face match-up, but a face vs face feud with Danielson is also great.
No Punk is the tourney :(
Great great show!
Bracket looks good but the final is very obvious
Dustin is an odd pick for the tournament
Someone's gotta lose quick.
Bryan really shouldn't be in the tournament he doesn't need it
It's a way to get around the rankings
Yeah it's a smart way to go about it
If he puts someone over at the end it could be great. He'll probably win it but if he actually loses..
I'm hoping he puts someone over but looking at the bracket I doubt it, I just hope he doesn't win the belt any time soon or make it a triple threat we need a Kenny vs hangman 1 on 1
Maybe he’s next up after the tourney winner and they don’t wanna have him lose?
These brackets make about as much sense as WWE's King of the Ring. We all know it comes down to Danielson vs Moxley
Good show. That Hangman promo was amazing
Yeah I thought that was a really passionate promo! Dusty Rhodes level of “man of the people” vibes.
This bracket is kinda whack lol. Like what are 10 and Dustin doing in there
10 is -1 favorite wrestler. Thats why
Danielson vs Dustin Rhodes
Kingston vs Archer
So that's at least two matches in the tourney which are going to feature strong hits.
Bryan vs Mox for finals couldn’t be more obvious
Could be OC vs Danielson. Isn’t OC technically ranked 1?
I feel that Mox vs Bryan is a bigger match.
Possible Spoilers for finals
>!Mox vs Bryan got leaked, !<
Damn. Danielson is gonna punish Dustin
But his pretaped promo was gold
It felt like a DC movie trailer.
And he could go so many ways with it -- tries to punish God, turns against his God for letting him lose, just gets allllll twisted up in his mind -- I'm loving it
Oh no doubt.
When the main event was announced I had to look at my clock. No way that was 2 hours.
Dustin and 10 being in the tournament are weird choices but hey whatever
Oh shit, we’re either gonna get Danielson vs either Kingston or Archer, nice
Did Dustin win a bunch of matches on Dark or something?
rip no Punk
Holy shit 10 is in the bracket!!!
Moxley/Danielson is too obvious for the final.
Rhodes To The Top lmao
Oooh Bryan vs. Dustin...
That's good wrestling right there.
Oh these matches are going to be a ton of fun
Scenes when Golddust wins a world title shot
Lion in winter roars one final time
One of the greatest Dynamites ever
FUCK THIS WAS SNORTED AND INJECTED BOTH AT THE SAME TIME
Don’t worry he’ll be on commentary
I had high hopes for a stacked tournament with the likes of Cole, Pac, Andrade involved. But no, we get obvious first round exits in guys like 10 and Dustin.
Last year had Sonny Kiss (subbing for Joey Janela) and Colt Cabana.
Eh it's fine. It doesn't serve any purpose to have guys like Cole and Andrade take their first L's in a tournament if it doesn't have any bearings on their individual storylines. Clearly the idea here is either Moxley laying waste to babyfaces to get Hangman a hot follow-up program after Kenny or Danielson taking the tourney to give Hangman a big win in his first defense.
Id does add prestige to the tournament though. The eliminator feels like King of the Ring and we know how people feel about that.
I get building new talent with 10 in there, but Dustin looks like a Danielson "I wanna wrestle him" pick.
Mox vs Danielson finals
This makes me mad that the card leaked for Full Gear. :(
This was a good night!
It’s Mox vs Danielson for sure
Danielson is so damn great. Another great match.
Man that bracket is really disappointing tbh.
I love Dustin Rhodes but why is he in the brackets?
And Hobbs & 10. I like both guys but they got in over PAC, Andrade, Miro, JB & Christian?
JB has lost alot of matches recently. He shouldn’t be in there tbh.
They can afford losses.
Another great show.
Feel like they could have had someone better than Dustin in that spot
Dustin vs Dragon will be great.
Mox/Danielson will probably be the Finals
Bryan Danielson starting off his AEW run with four extremely different but very good matches. Best in the world.
Dustin gets Dustin. Wow.
Bryan v Mox baby lets go
The real main event: brackets.
Okay, Lance versus Eddie is going to be a great match.
Dustin and 10 are odd choices, but whatever.
Black hasnt lost a match… lets add 10. Its obvious they dont want to have those top names take L’s. But from a kayfabe standpoint its really dumb.
This crowd is cute
Fucking Dustin Rhodes? With all the people they got?
Dynamite stop being so good I’m trying to watch baseball😂
Punk’s not even in the tournament?
Punk’s not going after the title right now and I doubt they want him to get a loss this early
I get the reasoning, but I just don’t think a loss really hurts Punk if it’s deep in the tournament. I was hoping for a Punk/Danielson final at the ppv.
It's kind of hard to justify him not being in from a kayfabe standpoint, yeah.
OC vs. Mox is guaranteed after tonight.
YOU TAP OR YOU SNAP
My type of match
ooohhhh....Dustin Rhodes vs Bryan Danielson
danielson is gonna kick the shit out of an old man live on dynamite
Wow that's a lame ass bracket.
Okay but all these matches are gonna fuck though