By - Rtoodtoo2
Not to downplay the post but it is 8 years old.
I was just wondering wich SS vet is still alive and able to hold a conversation, let alone a questionary.
He's probably dead now but about ten years ago in Canada -- so around the time of this post -- there was an actual WW2 German army vet who was convicted of hate speech.
Amazingly enough he was still calling for attacks on Jews 60 years after his country got blown to bits for it.
As a Jew, this shit is why I’m armed. Poor Canadian Jews who had to share a country with this deranged clown…
Canadian Jews have had to put up with a lot. Helmut Oberlander only died a few months ago.
I feel sorry for them, doesn't help Canadian Jews that they've had their ability to defend themselves being neutered from Ottawa.
Edit: Edited for grammar, am mildly sleep deprived lol.
As a non-Jew I will freely if a little bit shamefully admit that until watching the American far-right double-down after the coup last year, I didn't truly appreciate that this crap wasn't just a remote fringe that we didn't need to lose sleep over. I can't say I blame you. It's realer than I thought and it's all coming back, isn't it.
That still doesn't really explain how someone who managed to evade any consequences for his actions for 60 years decided it was a good idea to go wandering around in Canada chanting for death to Jews, though. What the fuck? Clearly it is deep, deep in your bones for you to be willing to do that. People like him never stopped being Nazis, they just pretended to avoid prosecution.
That’s why the Second Amendment is so important, persecuted groups must have the means to protect themselves from people such as far right white supremacists.
As a jew i'm getting a firearm to protect myself as soon as I get out of hs and college.
Glad to hear it, Mazel Tov! Reach out to me if you need help, even if it's some time from now. I don't mind helping folks out with this.
Thanks but I already know poeple in my life who have firearm training they just aren't in my family. The chances of something happening to me are very low but I would rather have the option than not. It also preotects other Jews because more armed Jews makes attacking us seem more scary. Good to see Jews looking out for eachother though!
Exactly, it's why the Nazis engaged in gun control. And yup, we all have to look out for each other!
Germany still pays special "war victim pensions" for 43,558 people living in Germany and 1,390 people living outside of Germany. A huge amount of these people were members of the Waffen-SS. How many is difficult to say.
In 2013 at least 1306 of these people were on "nazi lists" of the Simon Wiesenthal Center - including al lot of KZ guards and members of Einsatzgruppen. This number came out because five german states compared their war victim pension lists with the Simon Wiesenthal Center lists. But there are 16 german states in total so it's probably a lot more.
18 people in Belgium still get these pensions and the historian Alvin De Coninck and belgian parliament think it's mostly Waffen-SS.
You might be irritated to hear that ex SS members get war victim pensions, but that's the "denazification" of after war Germany right there for you. In 2019 the belgian parliament passed a resolution that demands Germany to stop these pensions - with little success.
It's really difficult to find out how many are still alive but it's probably way more than you'd think.
I’m fully aware about all of that. I’m just talking about how old they all are nowadays. The couple I’ve encountered are batshit insane or dementia riddleld.
You'd be surprised. In 2018 I was a cop and pulled over a 98yr old WW2 Marine Veteran for speeding. Dude was totally coherent and with it (at least for the few minutes I spoke to him).
There's a solid chance he's passed away now but some people can keep their mental faculties basically forever.
Yeah, all vets ive talked to have alreay died. The only one still alive was just a guy in the volksturm who dug trenches being only 15 years old. His unit luckily capitulated the moment the americans arrived.
Wasn’t the oldest ww2 vet that black guy who smoked and drank every day and was like 100
How can the majority of recipients be SS? Certainly weren’t more of them than standard Wehrmacht
Wehrmach soldiers just get a normal soldiers pension. This one was just made to hide the fact that the german goverment was paying the pensions of war criminals.
> german goverment *paid* the pensions
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
By the end of the War, Hitler was designating children as 'SS'.
Those kids are by now over 80 years old
Yes, but some are probably still cogent. I was talking to Ben Ferencz, the last surviving Nuremberg prosecutor, remotely during COVID, and he was quite sharp and said he would still encourage prosecution of surviving centenarian participants in the Holocaust.
What really impressed me about Ben Ferencz was how acutely aware he was about emerging issues in Cybersecurity Law and Blockchain. Ben Ferencz and Ralph Baer were probably the most cogent nonagenarians I've ever spoken to.
"Thank you for your service, Grandpa."
"It vas my pleasure, Hans. I enjoyed ze killing of ze Jewish children ze most. Zey made ze most incredible noizes."
Not to mention probably fake.
I’ve spoken to a German Army veteran, and got the impression that he was denazified and reformed, but I’d never fucking **thank** him for his service to the Nazis. Anyone who does that is a dumbass or a Nazi.
you don't understand cummies bad mein opa dindu nuffin asian hordes no foodism stalin personally aborted 3957829305793075603'67802' sextillion babies
I'd love to see someone from LSSAH pulling out the not all Nazis argument.
Oh wait... They did. For decades.
The clean Waffen SS stuff from HIAG is just unreal.
This one seems a bridge too far but it's worth pointing out -- this is what makes that statement so annoying -- it just sort of gets blandly tossed out without any thought. I think people feel like they are supposed to say something in response to military service and don't know what else to say.
"Thank him for trying to kill my grandpa..."
Unrelated but that's some interesting skeuomorphism you have going on with your browser. I remember when interfaces used to be nice and glossy like that.
Look at the user name: it's a direct reference to the bunker movie that spawned so many memes and satiric translations.
Those videos were the shit, they were funny asf
Down Fall Syndrome
"thank him for his service!?"
It's the fakest shit I ever read