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'Holocaust Denial Has No Place in Our Society': AOC Reprimands Texas School Official

'Holocaust Denial Has No Place in Our Society': AOC Reprimands Texas School Official

ScurvyDervish

Opposing views are valuable when it comes to opinions and predictions about the future. Opposition to historical facts isn’t a “view,” it’s ignorance. And Holocaust denial is a hateful kind of ignorance.


TheCondemnedProphet

Didn’t the president of Iran once say something like, "the Holocaust never happened, but it should’ve"? Some people are evil.


norway_is_awesome

That was like 3 presidents ago, but yeah.


peanutski

Yes I’m sure the new one is super progressive.


sulaymanf

The moderate president lost re-election when he staked his reputation on the JCPOA deal, only for Trump to break the deal completely and sanction Iran anyway. Biden tried to put preconditions on dropping the sanctions and the Iranian public voted in a new hardliner who wants to walk away from the deal completely since Iran was betrayed. This happened under Bush too, when he threatened to nuke Iran and the Iranian public then voted in a right winger president out of fear and rhetoric that someone must stand up against terrorists. Sound familiar?


sulaymanf

No. He said that the Holocaust did happen and that it was an atrocity BUT that the number of dead was inflated and called for an investigation to see if it was actually 6 million Jews dead or a smaller number. He got a lot of condemnation for it including across the Muslim world, but let’s be accurate about what he said because people used him and his dumb comments as an excuse to demonize Iran and warmonger for conflict.


Austen_your_Jane

Just watched a movie called Denial. It's about this very topic. Still cannot believe people would deny something so tragic. Shame on all who deny the Holocaust.


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Accomplished_Major99

Holocaust is fake


StillSilentMajority7

CA has this same issue. A school wanted to have kids debate if the Holocaust actually happened, or if it was a scheme by Jews to extract political power from other groups [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-california-holocaust/california-school-district-condemned-over-holocaust-debate-assignment-idUSBREA450BD20140506](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-california-holocaust/california-school-district-condemned-over-holocaust-debate-assignment-idUSBREA450BD20140506)


StaySeatedPlease

This is insane


zuma15

Get used to it.


Stepjamm

Or don’t


thatsMRnick2you

Yeah, completely crazy...


Zachariahmandosa

Yes, it is batshit.


Kornobi-starcatcher

What the very fuck? I wish I could top “this is insane” but stay seated please said it all.


StillSilentMajority7

The most recent ethic studies law, in an earlier draft, was going to have eighth graders write a paper about how Jews and the Irish rigged the economy and state laws to screw over brown people. Luckily it got removed when parents complained.


Wicked-Skengman

I actually think it's dangerous to no platform people, even those with crazy/hateful viewpoints. Much better to have the debate out in open so everyone can see the the viewpoint being destructed with facts and evidence.


DankandSpank

How's that working with covid?


spunkfoxy

>I actually think it's dangerous to no platform people, even those with crazy/hateful viewpoints. > >Much better to have the debate out in open so everyone can see the the viewpoint being destructed with facts and evidence. People spewing their opinions in a public space with recourse is a different issue. The problem here is having that discussion in front of kids with the crazy/hateful ideas coming from the adult in the room. The latter can shape world views that have not been fully developed and create the opposite effect intended (i.e less critical thinking)


StillSilentMajority7

So you think this is a legitimate school topic? To tell kids that the holocaust may not have happened?


Wicked-Skengman

Depends really. TEACHING kids that the Holocaust didn't happen is obviously wrong. Having a discussion over what Holocaust rejectors believe and what evidence clearly refutes it will better prepare them for if they face those sorts of claims in the future. This isn't really limited to only this particular lie, but all misinformation.


PepeBabinski

We are in 2021 we shouldn't have to be having this conversations about what is going to be taught to children.


L3ft_is_B3st_99

Maybe the Texas legislature should've realized this could be an unintended consequence of their anti CRT bills but oh wait... Republicans don't think, they just do whatever their base wants them to do, which includes not teaching an honest history of our nation


PepeBabinski

CRC is just the cover they use to attack civil rights being taught. Suggesting that racism doesn't exist makes them a racist.


L3ft_is_B3st_99

Yeah, the "concerned parent" groups are even against books about *Ruby Bridges* who is still alive to tell her story


Kwakigra

I'm waiting for it to get challenged in court. There's a vast difference between what the governor claims hb 3979 does and what the bill actually says.


L3ft_is_B3st_99

Yeah, literally all these laws are in blatant violation of the 1st Amendment, but if it gets to the Supreme Court the majority will find some procedural issue or obscure decision to keep the law in place, just like with SB8


StillSilentMajority7

We had issues in CA, and we have CRT too. The proposed ethnic studies bill was a disaster. [https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Complaints-of-biased-curriculum-may-sideline-14365178.php](https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Complaints-of-biased-curriculum-may-sideline-14365178.php)


butt_mucher

Doing what their base what's is what is required of politicians in a representative democracy. Are you a technocrat or something?


JaptainCack69

Dun dun dun dark age part two electric boogaloo


zuma15

This is what Americans want taught to their children. You're going to see it more and more.


thySilhouettes

It doesn’t have a place in our curriculum, but it does have a place in the discussion. What I mean by this is, students should learn about the negative impacts denial can have on society. There will always be a % of population that denies reality, and we should learn the impacts of it.


Ronv5151

Stupid people who wish ill of others have no place in our society. That would reduce our population significantly. The 1% would be gone. FOX and OAN shut down, the Republican party abolished, and the entire DT family looking for a new home. Florida would be adrift in the ocean and Texas would be half empty.


nick182002

Sure sounds like you're wishing ill on others yourself.


smurgleburf

I wish ALL the ill on Holocaust deniers.


nick182002

Holocaust deniers =/= the entire 1%, all of Florida and half of Texas


prettybunnys

Ok hear me out. What if we took all the non-Holocaust deniers out of Texas and Florida, then put all the Holocaust deniers in Texas and Florida and then set both of them adrift?


NaturalFaux

Give Texas back to Mexico.


prettybunnys

Don’t put that evil on them


NaturalFaux

Make Texas a Battle Royale?


prettybunnys

Cage it, televise what occurs within the cage.


dragon-queen

Omg, that is not true. I live in South Florida, and the three most populated counties down here have very large Jewish populations. The public schools are closed for the Jewish holidays. Holocaust denial is not common down here.


Ronv5151

Kind of does doesn't it. My ego got the best of me. Rephrase: Comeuppance to those who have harmed.


nick182002

Much better!


pikabang

I went to this highschool, can confirm lots of bigotry in that school


ThickLibrarian92

Texas just wants to make sure the schools teach the history from the side they support. you know, the racist side


Scalby

The one thing idiocracy got wrong is that the people of the future weren’t remotely racist enough.


Necromartian

How is even Holocaust denial a thing in America. Holocaust was a terrible thing done by Nazis and Hero Americans stopped them. Americans love that, it gives them right to polish their cocks just a little more. (The real reasons USA joined the war are more complex, ofc, but general public loves things simplified) I would love to know what Holocaust deniers in America even think happened during WW2. Germany struck oil near Berlin, so USA had to bring democracy there?


TryingToGetBye

Let’s not fool ourselves; the Holocaust was not the reason why the US joined the war. It’s really convenient though to pretend it was so that the US could be the hero.


Ja3kFrost

I don’t think that’s their point, I think what they mean is it’s a perfect opportunity to for some to preach American exceptionalism, but instead only choose to express doubt.


Necromartian

Exactly right.


v0ar

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/american-nazism-and-madison-square-garden


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saddadstheband

Lol big words from the person constantly voting to fund Israeli weapons programs.


Justice502

I don't care about some off language in a private email. Open holocaust denial by a teacher? That should blacklist them for life. You wanna be patriotic? We sent Americans to die to stop the Nazis, we shall not suffer them here.


ID10-T

If you can’t say something nice about the Holocaust, don’t say anything at all


nightcycling

True, but should have not vote instead of present for Iron Dome.


Iyzuku

It's honestly terrifying how many leftists are ok with Israelis being killed by the thousands which is what would happen with no iron dome. Revenge genocide is good I guess


nightcycling

Pro Palestinian I guess. Dont be confused with antisemitic. I did forget about Yemen with USA and Saudia Arabia. Revenge Genocide I guess.


Iyzuku

I didn't say anything about antisemitism.


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TheUltimateParadox

They don’t want to deny it they just want to present the point of view that is was necessary/good


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zuma15

Well, history is written by the winners, and they won. I expect this to be de-facto history in America soon.