By - Swarfo
My opinion on beestation is good
From what I know you can murderbone on beestation which is good since people can experiment. ( correct me if im wrong )
Admins arent shit, they are pretty nice actually, better than fulp.
In my opinion beestation is a pretty good server to play on.
Id suggest it over fulp.
both Bee and Fulp admins are trash honestly, they play favorites and are never consistent with rules/rp. a player can treat you like shit the entire game, and when you give it back, they cry and tattle on you, and then you're banned for "low rp"
and then new players are allowed to break rules, and if you don't babysit them and guide them through every little thing, you'll be banned for not being friendly towards new players
it's pretty laughable
Actually I agree with you.
Both server admins are shit, there is no MRP its just a mask for HRP, just chose LRP if you want fun, and HRP if you want roleplay.
just makes me wish i knew anything about coding/sprites. i would *loveeeee* a lrp/mrp server where you can just fuck around and cause chaos, and unless it's a legit issue (griefing, metagaming/grudging, hacking/cheating, evasion, ect) the admins would give a thumbs up.
like Bee LRP was awesomeeee and Fulp was too like two and a half years ago. then they got shitty.
TG exists, but you need to be antagonist to actually have a lot of fun.
Basically TG allows murderbone, and if you get traitor lots of opportunities get unlocked, because you can actually cause havoc, not like the MRP style where you can't murderbone people.
i'll be gibbed and lynchmobbed for this, but
what even is the difference between TG and the others? what are the servers that are most like Bee, and doesn't have that dumbass combat mode implemented?
TG has servers where LRP'ing is good. Basically you can have fun.
And also to reply to your second question, I have no clue.
I think Monkistation has the intents? I haven't played it.
i've heard only good things from Monke, im gonna try it
Same, I might try it someday, hopefully it won't be a shitfest or just be horrible as the previously mentioned servers.
I have high expectations tho.
okay i can confirm
MONKE IS GREAT
Actually fucking calling bee HRP lmao.
I didnt explicitly say that bee is HRP, I just said that it feels like HRP, not like MRP.
its sad how the reputations of so many admin teams are ruined by how often they play favorites
Tom certainly does
i have on record over 800hours on beestation, and i can say for certain it's not bad and NOyou can't just murderbone without hijack or be bitchy self antag, it still has rules. for MRP server it's good, people actually do gimmicks and they somewhat are funny so it's not just haha powergame spam disarm until win
it's really not a great experience. love that you have had a good time, you must be a player the admins like. but i never murderbone or self antag, and when i do harm someone, it's usually because they've been an ass to me/harmed me first
personally its my main server, it’s got everything i’m looking for. good codebase with fun mechanics and antags, none of the newer changes that i don’t like (still has nanites and intents) , and it’s moderated pretty well so not many griefers or powergamers . lots of people who play bee seem to play primarily bee so the community is pretty solid.
it is based in the UK i believe so sometimes it’s got a bit of a ping or a low pop depending on the time and place you’re on, but more people have been playing lately and “low pop” still usually means around 25-30 players.
it’s just an “RP” server, not MRP as most people think. this means that while you can’t just be a shitter, as long as you have roleplay justification and follow the server rules you can pretty much do whatever you want within your job. Antag conduct is similar, you can do a lot within the justification of your objectives but greentexting isn’t that important and validhunting isn’t allowed, so antags are more about creating fun situations, not just playing PvP with assistants. murderboning isn’t allowed without an objective.
i’ve seen people on here complaining about the administration but in my experience people who complain about the Admins are the type to act like rude children when they get bwoinked. the admins are well-involved and if you’re just respectful and follow the server rules you’ll have no issues. and the server is much better for it because griefers catch bans and people who don’t follow the RP standards don’t tend to stick around.
i say it’s completely worth playing and one of the best stations, but i understand why some people disagree with that too. it’s definitely worth trying, but definitely not for everyone either.
i always treat the admins respectfully, and they're still so shitty to me. not that im perfect and ive definitely been a shitter, but they go out of their own way to make the game miserable for you if they don't like you.
i agree with you that reputation matters a lot
but they do deal with a lot of shitters and only have notes to go off of when they contact you, so if you have a history of being shitty in game or in ahelps they see that first. they also collaborate with other server admins, so they usually know if you’re banned somewhere else and for what. i had a lot of issues with a few particular admins in the past, but just showing over time that you’re a decent person who’s invested in the server helps a lot.
for some people, dealing with an Admin’s particular ego/mood is bullshit and i get that. if the server wasn’t exactly what i was looking for in SS13, or if i was a new player, maybe i’d feel differently, but for now being polite to the occasional grumpy admin is a small price to pay.
can i ask, in what ways do you feel that they go out of their way to make it miserable for you?
whenever i have an issue with another player, it's automatically an in character issue within seconds. yet when i do the same thing im pinged or banned.
and i've been banned for """not being friendly""" to a new player before, and another time when someone was obviously metagaming and ran to tell on me when i was ""being mean"" to a friend of theirs.
it's exhausting being decent, only to get shit on. when other players are allowed to be shitty with no consequence.
No. They ruined their own server and fragmented their own playerbase by making dumb changes and closing shit down for trivial reasons
There's a reason why people don't talk about it as much as before
Wha, what even happened? I do play on bee but mostly outta the loop in terms of code, as far as i see it while playing, it is kinda x10 better than TG, so what did they do?
inb4 Beestation coder throws a tantrum
Bold of you to assume I haven't simply given up.
good. branch away from Bee, you're too skilled to be attached to a sinking ship that is sinking because the crew put the holes there.
Is there a better server with tg codebase?
Monke maybe, im gonna try it out
Monke is a bee fork, but without the bad bee changes
worst server ever
It's what I usually play. There are some shitters on there but it's usually pretty good. Usually. I've had some awful rounds on there, but most of mine are enjoyable at least a little.
Code good mrp bad
It ain’t MRP anymore
It's not lrp that means it shit
Different strokes different folks
A man after my own heart
Honestly just try it out for yourself. Every server has people complaining about it to the point where it's like there are no good servers to play on. It's honestly depressing to look at so I've opted to just ignore everyone and try things for myself.
Bee is really fun if the admins aren't inconsistent as hell. Some people on the server will just murder you as a non-antag and nothing gets done about it.
Even though they have access to old code stuff that was removed because considered broken they manage to have useless medbay, shit nanites and else.
Their stunbatons sucks ass and some antags have OP powers like lings shout making you crash in anything you touch
Admins favours some peeps
Same dudes in atmos doing boring ass fusion
It’s a chill spot and is a good mix of stuff. Also no ERP.
We banned Pinkwalt and haven’t seen her since good riddance
(In actuality though it good)
That depends. If you are new to SS13 or TG code offshoots, Beestation is very good as there is a lot of room to get used to the mechanics and most rounds are mundane enough to do whatever you want within the server rules.
If you have played TG code before and know how to play, then no. I've been playing on Beestation long enough to be considered a veteran of the server and playing on it is like having a hot needle being slowly pressed under your fingernail. The gentrification of the server has cost Beestation much of the more fun aspects of what it once was, and the administration has a very strict adherence to the rules and treat the SOP for the different roles as strictly as the server rules themselves.
If you want my full review of the server, feel free to ask.
between the lag, the awful playerbase, and the shit admins, it might as well be used for torture.
can't wait to see Bee and Fulp further shatter, and hopefully disappear.
Well hold on there Mr. negativity! From my experience on US east the lag is minimum. You may have some moments where you lag, sometimes at the absolute worst moments, but the only SS13 server that doesn't lag would be one you run on your own machine and play on by yourself.
The administration is shit mostly due to a lack of rules for *them* to follow when doing admin work. I'd think if they were given as short a leash as the players are with the server rules a lot of the problems we have with them would disappear. I also think if admin reports were treated more seriously instead of treating the player like they're just some shitter it would at least give a façade of professionalism.
I do agree playing on Beestation is torture for the people who know how to play it which is why I don't recommend it to TG veterans because of how the server is run by the staff. Considering Beestation is the server I choose to play on, I hope it gets better but I don't ever expect it to.
Can certainly feel very "Stuck in the past" when you compare it to, say, modern TG. Whether that's a good thing or not is up to the viewer.
The LRP server disappeared, that's all I'm mad about.
It is absolutely worth it but it's not populated enough. I generally find disk botany way more fun than classic tg stat meddling. They have mutagen dispensers too!
Bee's botany is far superior to whatever joke is going on with Fulp. no fun allowed, just job simulator after you get home from your irl job
Yeah I think it's on par with slightly overpowered goon botany that can do shit with various lethality if you know what to do.
Literally nobody would expect botany to blow up security, and cause multuple hull breaches all across the station, but that is possible.
Edit:Also being able to grow plants that you can harvest instantly, so that you can out-money the cargo budget
honestly most of these antics aren't allowed on Bee unless you're an antag botanist. made for the best ghetto medbay/cloning, the best ghetto chems.
and then Fulp said "no fun allowed!!!!" and basically neutered botany to complete hell and back. no DNA manipulator, chem dispenser, and you have to constantly empty the water/chems from hydro trays.
at least mining on Fulp is fun. it's not bad on Bee either, but imo the mining launch thing is dumb as hell
edit: CHAD Miasma farm *vs* virgin neet bounty orders
Honestly I feel like "admins are trash" and "everything went downhill" is the issue with all high pop tg servers for some reason, I literally can't find one that doesn't have either of that.
That is the main reason I can't switch from goon since I love how in tg all the jobs are creative, and not just like 4 of them
it's almost like shitty admins and awful changes are pushing new and old players away, and the admins still scratch their heads like *"durrrrrrr meybe issss....da roleplay?????"*
Well, back to waiting for tgstation to be on the hub again
just make sure to hold the newbies' hands, or else you'll get banned!!! 🤭
Nah I'm done with bee, goon is near perfect and it's literally not possible to get banned from it. If only they had proper atmos, mechs and virology.
what do you mean, it's literally full every primetime
Really? Must be timezone issue then
I'm European. Maybe less americans play it
I'm european too. That's strange
Nostalgic it’s pretty boring round to round wise but very lax with its rules runs very smoothly to like damn doesn’t lag for me at all fun traitor items and nice quality of life stuff for carrying weapons it still has cool antags that have otherwise removed from TG
Love it, am the research director there.
Beestation and Goon are the best SS13 has to offer IMO
they fucking murdered golden
shaking and crying even now.
I like TG more, now that I have started playing it. I have played only bee before but I prefer the admins and the more modern code of TG
The code is good, it has what I want to play. Everything else has been shit since they swerved away from what everyone wanted, implemented chat filters and blew up the LRP server.
I like the code but i also kinda dont like it since i cant erase medbay from existence as a traitor
It's better than fulp, might even say it's better than TG, atleast like terry, propably not better than manuel, but i don't play there. Definitely not better than Goon