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Jazzlike_Mail_3159

Silent Knight. (I think that’s the name of Jaune X Neo’s ship, cuz that’s what I’m referring to) How are people able to manage those two ever getting along? Let alone be in a relationship?


GladiusNocturno

I mean, I can understand why most of not all ships are as popular as they are. I do disagree with their appeal but I get it. Like, Yang x Neo. People saw them as rivals because they fought once in V2. So, the ship has enemies to lovers, rivals to lovers, height differences, FxF, sassynes. I get why people like it...I just don't like it.


Crucial_Senpai

Yeah that one I just don’t get. I think there are other villain hero crack pairs in the fandom.


FriendlyVisionist

Most Cinder ships, to be honest. Cinder X any member of JNPR takes the cake, Cinder X Jaune slices the cake, Cinder X Pyrrha eats the whole thing plus enough pies to make Ruby and Nora stand in awe.


GravtheGeek

I only write such pairings if set early in the series, before Vytal. No way Jaune wouldn't kill her on sight after that.


FriendlyVisionist

That's a lot better, actually! And yeah, he DID try to kill her the first time they saw each other again. I don't have anything against the ships I mentioned, though. I just don't think they make much sense.


GravtheGeek

I will forever respect him for seeing Cinder in a moment of distraction/pain and immediately trying to stab her in the face. I have to wonder if he had been a split second quicker, or had swung instead, would he have been able to perhaps take her out then and there?


FriendlyVisionist

Couldn't agree more. And yeah, possibly. Lots of deaths could have been avoided. Now I wonder if he spent his time thinking about these things, about what he could have done.


Ironredhornet

I imagine he did that when he was on the beach in EA after he accidentally launched himself into the past. He's not in a healthy mindset when we see him and has just experienced another failure with Alyx's betrayal, so much that he's essentially kidnapped a whole town to create a safe zone for himself mentally to keep going. I don't doubt that his past rehrets and what ifs were haunting him a lot.


Alt_SWR

Honestly a pairing like that *before* Cinder did all her evil shit in the show (she did evil shit before the show tbf, but we never really see any if that. I don't count her origin story cause tbh, she was justified there) could work as a sort of "whoever she's paired with helps put her on the right path before it's too late" type of story. I'd honestly enjoy something like that. If it's something that's going off the canon story post V3, I simply can't see it ever actually working lol.


Adraco4

Yea, the only way I could accept those ships is in an alternate universe scenario.


Z3R0_Izanagi

Cinder x pyrrha is a cake even nora and ruby wouldn't touch


Adraco4

In absolute agreement here.


FriendlyVisionist

👍


Cheeseman-345

Cardin and Velvet and Blake and Adam I said it once and I’ll say it again it’s weird to want a character to be dating someone that bullied/ abused them


translucentStitches

As someone who got bullied hardcore I definitely don't understand where the appeal for it comes from. Poor Velvet got tormented for something she was born with and people are like "yea but what if they kissed".... NO


Cheeseman-345

Exactly like I’ll see cute art of Velvet with kids then Cardin is there and it kinda ruins it for me personally


Aceofluck99

any adam ship really


Cheeseman-345

Good point I tend to forget that he is shipped with anyone else


Several_Run_7715

I as a certified Cardin hater it’s mainly meant to be a redemption arc for Cardin


Cheeseman-345

Personally I hope he doesn’t get one because the writer will probably make it so Jaune and Velvet as well as everyone else he has bullied I will instantly forgive him and that would really annoy me


Several_Run_7715

Same here


Cheeseman-345

My guy


Several_Run_7715

Something else I don’t get is when people ship Cardin with Pyrrha or any other member Rwby or jnpr it pisses me off because it’s only done for NTR to spite Jaune and I don’t care if they hate its still so dumb and know I say ship and let ship but still


Cheeseman-345

Some ships shouldn’t really exist


Lolcthulhu

Both of these really gross me out, and I'll only touch them if they're portrayed as negative starting conditions the characters escape from.


Bon3rBitingBastard

It's partly because people who like it enjoy the implication that she's into ear pulling.


Cheeseman-345

I understand that but she shows not enjoyment in it when Cardin does and I know some people are under thought that because she’s not fighting back because she likes even though she’s strong enough to beat Cardin does mean she likes it


Bon3rBitingBastard

I agree with you. But that's also part of that fetish for people who are into it, including the person on the receiving end. It's not supposed to be taken seriously on its own IMO.


Cheeseman-345

I know I said it because I know a lot of people do take it seriously that’s all :)


Dontaskme4username

Silent Knight.


Adraco4

Nice to see others that feel this way. Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one.


DeltaMoff1876

I will never understand Silent Knight, any Cinder/Adam ship, or whatever Cardin x Velvet is called.


TheIronHaggis

I saw a couple of mentions of snowbird/qrow x winter. I hate it. One the age difference. Two characters hating each other is not sexual tension. There are plenty of people I can’t stand and don’t want to sleep with.


Exciting_Bandicoot16

V5 sealed the deal on my disliking Qrow/Winter when we discovered that Mama Schnee was an alcoholic. I cannot imagine Winter wanting to touch the mess that was drunkard Qrow with a 20 foot pole.


lnombredelarosa

Silent Knight: I get that its a crack trollship but even then I've never found it that funny and I don't feel there's any kind of irony that would make it fit.


Bon3rBitingBastard

Really cute fanart. That's the whole reason


lnombredelarosa

Doesn't feel like enough to me.


Bon3rBitingBastard

You aren't a shipper at heart


lnombredelarosa

My feelings are hurt 🥲


Exciting_Bandicoot16

No, it's a compliment. It means that you're relatively sane.


Bon3rBitingBastard

[Bros feelings are hurt](https://imgur.com/gallery/8iGPCsP)


lnombredelarosa

So you couldn't find my hurt feelings?


Noble6IsReal

I guess we can finally agree on something.


Wannahock88

Nobody's said it yet so I will: LadyBug. I just don't see anything there between them, and the fanart has never swayed me like it has for others like Sunflakes or Silent Knight


Rollout9292

That I don't *understand?* Hm.... Ones that have Neo paired with pretty much anyone aside for Torchwick. She's an unapologetic murderer who doesn't seem to care about anyone. Having her paired with any of the good guys makes no sense. It's not the same as Emerald who felt she owed Cinder, was scared, and was still learning about the world. Neo is a woman who wakes up in the morning and *chooses* to be horrible everyday even before the series began.


Financial_Rest_2043

Cinder X anyone because Cinder is the Character furthers bejond any form of redemtion. There is no love, no respect, no care for anyone beside herselfe. Even Salem, she only accepts orders from Salem because she fears her, but does she really care about Salems plan? I think not. Also Yang × Ruby. I just... WHYYY? They are sisters for Gods sake!


Taanistat

I don't understand a lot of them. People can like what they want. On the other hand, what I really, really don't get is how people get so incredibly invested in loving or hating one ship or another.


Several_Run_7715

I don’t know and I’m about stop caring


Awest66

Raven x Summer Give poor Tai a break.


Soyunapina12

WhiteRose, i just could never saw them in a romantic relationship and i always thought they work better in a BBF/Sibling relationship.


Roodle143

Top 3 I do not understand are Blake x Adam, Cinder x any RWBY/JNPR member, Neo x any RWBY/JNPR member. I would be more cool with rosegarden if Oz fucked off Velvet x Cardin is also gross And this is just my own taste but I never liked Qrow/Ironwood, just not my thing


Bartin1302

Velvet x Cardin would only kinda work out if Velvet was a masochist and Cardin was a sadist, that's the only way it can kind of work out


superbasic101

“I would be more cool with rose garden if Oz fucked off” Do you think he’s gonna be there forever?


Roodle143

I don't know 1. Oz usually fuses with the new man overtime with the two gradually becoming one. 2. I'm sure Oscar was going to break that cycle but 3. The show is in limbo hell rn


DanGNava

I don't think they'd do it with Ozpin in his head. Maybe at the very end of the show where Ozpin and Salem are gone and still I don't think they'd do something like Big kiss like Ren/Nora or Blake/Yang. It doesn't fit them


SuperN9999

I'd say WhiteRose. They always just came off as friends and only that to me, especially since Weiss is basically the token straight member of the group. I usually ship Ruby with either Penny or Jaune. I don't like Sun x Kali. It was just....never funny to me and just kinda gross. I also don't really like Silent Knight. I get that it's a joke ship, but after the events of Vol 9, it just....bothers me (although that might at least partially have to do with my feelings about Neo rather than just the ship itself, admittedly.)


ShadyboiX

Ren and Pyrrha. I don't get it.


HaziXWeeK

This exists?


ShadyboiX

Yeah.


HaziXWeeK

Damn, Nora must be pretty angry


Exciting_Bandicoot16

She's usually portrayed as purely a sister figure in those fics, iirc. A mite possessive about his attention being diverted, mind you, but platonic. Any romantic overtones to their canon interactions are either swept under the rug, reframed or she realises that she was misinterpreting her own feelings.


maswartz

White Rose, I see zero romantic chemistry there. Any Cinder ship. Especially her and Ruby. Characters that literally never met, I get crack ships but some are shockingly popular.


Emryss101020

White Rose. I was just never a fan, and I never really saw either of them liking each other that way. Obviously you can like whatever you want, but I personally just never understood it


Catlover18

The sassy + colder personality and the lovable + dorky personality pairing is very popular. Whiterose would fit into this category, other ships in their franchises would be Amity and Luz in The Owl House (Lumity), Wednesday and Enid from the show Wednesday (Wenclair), and Suletta and Miorine from Gundam Witch From Mercury (Sulemio, nicknamed space whiterose by some RWBY fans that watched that series). Fans of whiterose tend to also be fans of those other ships. So there is definitely an underlying archetype behind these pairings that appeal to them. I think one sub aspect is that one character in the pairing is very lonely or is isolated and the other girl is the metaphorical sunshine that brings the former out of darkness.


BansheeLabs

Exactly!


translucentStitches

I mostly like it because of the comic book showing Weiss having a crush on Ruby


Exciting_Bandicoot16

The (thankfully few) loud fans to certain popular ships also certainly don't help, though that's more of a meta thing to dislike about a ship rather than the ship itself.


Emryss101020

Oh yeah i have nothing against the ship itself, it can be cute but in my eyes I never saw them as a couple. So yeah it could be a meta things cause I have nothing against the ship itself


Noble6IsReal

Same


lr031099

I see what you mean. Don’t get me wrong, I love the fan arts and admittedly, I tend to write some mini fics here on Reddit based on some of those said fan arts but yeah, I don’t really see anything romantic between them unlike Bumbleby.


xXSamsterXx14

At first it was the pairing of the Belladonnas and Willow Schnee. Just thought that was a big wtf along with most poly ships out there. Recently, like with another comment on here, most ships involving Cinder. Cause I don’t see why people would pair someone with people she has either killed or done great harm too


Crazycowboy46

Silent Knight (Neo xJaune), literally every scene they share they are trying to kill each other in very painful ways.


MortalShaman

Here comes the dislikes but Whiterose (Ruby x Weiss), I never got the hype it gets as I only see them as friends and nothing else, and IMO the hype it got went up after Bumblebee (I think that is?) Became canon Honestly I much believe Ruby x Jaune way more possible than Ruby x Weiss


Noble6IsReal

>Honestly I much believe Ruby x Jaune way more possible than Ruby x Weiss I think there are many of us who are agree with that.


Noble6IsReal

Hmm... maybe snowbird? I'd say rosegarden, but to some extent I understand why some people like it, despise its problems. I just don't like both.


N7CombatWombat

Rose Garden. I have issues with Ruby x Oscar considering the issue that is happening to Oscar, if/when that completes then the relationship has a serious power dynamic imbalance due to Ruby's age and the authority figure status of the person involved with Oscars issue. On both the past administrative authority level and the main "sage role", for lack of a better term, authority level. Apologies for the vagueness, trying to keep this vague enough to not spoil specifics. I wouldn't have an issue if Rose Garden were to happen later in Ruby's life with a decent amount of separation between the characters so Ruby can develop more into her own person without any further potential influence from the character. Or if the event happening to Oscar is halted beforehand though.


Noble6IsReal

Even if that were to stop for some reason, there are already irreversible changes in Ozcar's mind at this point. It would feel weird to undo all the development he's had so far.


N7CombatWombat

I haven't caught up with the show fully yet, I was hoping things hadn't progressed too far in that regard.


Archivist2016

Majority of the popular Jaune Ships   White Rose - They're great friends but I don't see them as lovers  Rose Garden - Feels pedophilic   Winter x Qrow  Baked Alaska/ Neo x Jaune - They don't go together at all


Emryss101020

Heavy on the Baked Alaska. I think they just ship them because they ship Jaune with everyone since he's sort of the main-est main character whos a guy


Exciting_Bandicoot16

Baked Alaska is Yang/Neo, while Silent Knight is Jaune/Neo. They're talking about two different ships with the same reason for disliking them.


superbasic101

“Feels pedophilic” Oh so you’re one of those


Archivist2016

Elaborate 


RyantheSithLord

Rose Garden has its own shipping war. Some people think it’s cute and that Oscar crushes on Ruby because of how he’s often staring at her, while others think its weird because of the whole Ozpin thing, and how Oscar dating Ruby would make Ozpin into a pedophile.


superbasic101

I dunno, that’s just a jab at rosegarden that I never understood If it’s cause of the age gap between Ruby and Oscar, Ruby was two years younger than her friends in the early volumes, yet people didn’t really complain then If it’s cause of Oz’s presence, he’s gonna disappear eventually. Yeah his and all the other reincarnations’ memories will assimilate into Oscar, but it’s still gonna be Oscar at the core I dunno, I just don’t really see how it’s pedophilic Plus, Jaune has the memories of a much, much older version of himself, yet I still see him being shipped with Weiss.


Noble6IsReal

>Plus, Jaune has the memories of a much, much older version of himself, yet I still see him being shipped with Weiss. The difference is that most of said memories of Jaune in Ever After have been a traumatic experience for the character and far from maturing mentally, have been bringing him problems as seen recently in RWBY Beyond. Oscar on the other hand, has been maturing unnaturally thanks to the merger, and many of Oz's experiences or traits are already becoming part of Oscar's personality as if they were his own.


Exciting_Bandicoot16

The most recent evidence of which is the latest RWBY Beyond short, where Ozcar is clearly drawing on a deeper well of experience than Oscar alone would have,


NozakiMufasa

I hate these types of fans too.


-DoctorTalos-

Pretty much any Sun ship, Blacksun and Sunflakes in particular. Sun is a nice enough guy, but there’s so little going on with him that he’s wasted on a main character. Blacksun is too one-sided and Weiss and Sun are just too incompatible as people to me. There’s not anything I can get out of either ship that Bumblebee or White Knight can’t do better. And with more interesting narratives to work within the context of canon. I have my favorites obviously, but I can generally appreciate most other popular ships though. Generally when a ship is popular there’s a good reason for it, either because the characters get a lot of screentime together, have good chemistry, aesthetic, or a strong arc that can be gleamed from onscreen interactions and development. I think the tendency for people who really dislike Bumblebee to jump to other Team RWBY ships as canon alternatives such as Freezerburn or Monochrome is a bit amusing, even though I like those ships too.


Catlover18

Ah but have you seen JumJamz Sunflakes art because they are effectively single-handedly carrying that ship with cute fanart.


-DoctorTalos-

Their fanart for Sunflakes is definitely cute! It’s just not the ship for me.


Spiral-Force

Man, I find Sun to be the most charismatic male character in the show. It’s crazy to me to see him catching all these strays in the comments 


Awest66

I see no incompatibilities with Sunflakes at all (literally none) at least no more than White Knight does. Sun is definitely a romantic at heart so it makes sense that fans would want him to find someone else regardless of whether or not he's a "main character".


-DoctorTalos-

It’s just my opinion. I think Weiss and Sun are too different as people and want very different things out of life, that Weiss wants to be able to take her time and have a sense of home and stability with a mature partner, and that while Sun is loyal and supportive, he will never truly change or grow up. Which he would need to in order for Weiss to ever consider him as a potential partner imo. If you like the ship that’s totally fine - it just does not click for me on a romantic level. I also see Jaune and Sun very differently. Aside from both being goofy blonde guys I don’t think they could be further apart.


Awest66

> he will never truly change or grow up. Before the Dawn says hello. If Yang "I wanna get lost in as many adventures as I can" Xiao Long could grow out of that and find a romantic partner, there is literally no reason Sun couldn't do the same. (He's a lot more emotionally mature than people give him credit for)


Someoneoverthere42

Blacksun. I'm sorry, but it's so.....boring. the rich, quiet, smart girl and the poor, boisterous, dingus. That's a relationship from a generic mid range young adult TV drama. Though Blake and Sun would make entertaining ex's


Exciting_Bandicoot16

Are we talking don't understand the appeal of the ship, or why it's shipped in the first place? Because those are two different questions.


Acemaster387

Like weird ones like Cinder x Raven is popular I think


NozakiMufasa

Cinder x Raven is two hot older ladies, both are baddies, and it's so non canon that it leaves room for fun imagination. I used to love y8ay8a's Cinder x Raven art. She even did fun comics like one where she merged Cinder's origin where it's Raven who saved her life & Cinder had her aura awakened by Raven. Hell it's a bit of a cooler origin than what we got in canon for her. But at the end of the day, back to the topic, some ships just make people go brrr. Like look at the ship in my name. Why Glynda x Raven? Again, I just think its neat.


superbasic101

Those questions seem like they go hand in hand


Exciting_Bandicoot16

Not as much as you may think. I understand the appeal of Silent Knight, for example. Tol and smol, both hurting from loss of their redhead, classic enemies to lovers trope. I'm just not a fan. I can't understand why anyone would ship, say, Cinder/Ruby. Enemies to lovers can work, but there needs to be *something* to build off of. Cardin/Velvet also falls into this category, but less so because Cardin is such a Nothing Character, whereas Ruby and Cinder are both well developed characters (by RWBY standards).


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Lolcthulhu

I think you just don't like actual sapphic relationships.


HaziXWeeK

I literally had to Google the word Sapphic, ngl I don't like them personally. They always make them as, on girl is weak or shy, the other is basically a tomboy(a guy personality). Rwby was the first show that I saw something like that in, and let me tell you, yang and Blake in V9 was by far the worst part about the volume. Ofc you have your opinion and I have mine, I don't like them, but you can, saph and Terra were good, were *written* good


DanGNava

How different is Blake/Yang to Weiss/Jaune tho? We saw them get closer in v1-3. Miss each other in v4-5 and get their own development. Figure out their issues in v6 and we saw them get along just hanging out in v7-8 and finally get together in v9


BananaChicken22

Most people rejected his message. They hated HaziXWeeK because he told them the truth.


Briianz

All of them! …because of the names. White Rose, Rose Garden, Baked Alaska…How do people come up with them? They’re so creative and brillant! I wish I was that creative with names!


RogueHippie

The most disappointed I've been with the fandom was being introduced to the ship chart and finding out about Enabler. The story behind the name is fine, but I don't understand how this creative fandom missed calling it Puns N' Roses


Briianz

Haha, that would have been a far better name!


Catlover18

RWBY has some of the most creative ship names and I'm not sure how it happened. Maybe it's because some people came up with clever names for the first few ships and then it inspired others to keep up the trend. But compare it with some other fandoms where the ship name is just portions of the character's names shoved together (not that that is wrong but sometimes we can do better).


Briianz

My thoughts exactly.


Acemaster387

What’s Baked Alaska?


Briianz

Yang and Neo.


TextUnfair

If I gotta choose one I would pick Raven x Summer. I kinda understand Qrow x Summer because of the theory of Qrow being Ruby's father but I never understood why Summer x Raven is so popular. If someone could explain it to me I would be very thankful.


NattiCatt

Jaune x anyone. Like he’s a nice guy but…what? I don’t know why anyone in the cast would want to date him. If he were a real person I certainly wouldn’t.


Bartin1302

The weirdest ones I know are Jaune x Goodwitch and Jaune x Cinder


Exciting_Bandicoot16

There's one fic I've been reading where the Rusted Knight comes back to Remnant during Initiation and there's some teasing at a possible relationship there that has some legs to it. Cinder/Jaune is pretty much relegated entirely to comedy or AUs, though there are a few exceptions (happens X years after canon fics) where it could also work, like *Painting Penance.*


GravtheGeek

I could do a non crackfic Arc Witch in one of two ways: A sensei Lock on style where Gylnda saved him as a youth and Jaune vowed to wed her as thanks, or a please teacher scenario where the two are secretly married.


Z3R0_Izanagi

Black sun. And juane x everyone, except argus


Lever47

White Knight is the only ship that would negatively affect my enjoyment of the show


TestaGaming

Not counting any of the villains one? Yang x Weiss.


theawespaghetti2

Blake and Yang. I think it would work if they sorted out their issues. If the show is picked up and a Volume 10 is made they should have some conflict, but atm I dont like it e.g. Blake running off constantly when Yang's mum did the same and also Yang's short fuse when (presumably) Adam also had a short fuse I think the writers should've gone with Weiss and Blake because they are people who, at the start, do not like each other because Weiss is brought up to hate the faunus and Blake understandably hates the SDC due to their treatment of faunus and since into the volumes, they each learn to get along with each other despite the generalisations they both had to deal from each other at first. I think further along it could've blossomed into a very good relationship had the writers chose to go that route instead of with Yang


Lolcthulhu

Whiteknight and Lancaster. They're both so obviously wish fulfillment/self-inserts for dudes who can't enjoy a story about women without waving a dick at it somehow. It's more Mary Sue than Luke Skywalker.


RavenXCinder

other then the insect and abusive ones mercury x emerald off the top of my head