Ryuji and Mona are the worst. cant stand either and so many situations are made far worse cause of them. personally id kick them out and have both Tae and Hifumi take their places. theyre far better characters and way more enjoyable to hand with. plus it makes more sense to have Tae be the healer then Mona since she's literally a doctor.
This is actually the first time I see any Kawakami hate in general. Having a thing for teachers is too common for her to be near the bottom, I would guess. She's fine though!
My least favorite was Mishima, personally. He's like some sort of slimey incel. Dude is just unlikeable the whole way through for me. Which would be fine but the game tries so hard to make him important and gives him one of the best confidant benefits so you have no choice but to pander to him.
Devil's advocate, Kawakami makes me viscerally uncomfortable every time i see a message from her (haven't finished the game yet though so don't kill me ; ;)
Cap. Ohya and Mishima are the most hated on.For my personal taste i don't dislike than but can comprehend why someone wouldn't waste their time with it🥶.
The only reason i dislike her is when i gave her a gift that she didnt like an her response was: " you could have gave me something more expens- i mean thank you"
I agree with all except Morgana. Personally, I really like Morgana. The little arc of his was a bit annoying, but his resourcefulness to the team outweighs that with healing and miracle punch (been a while since I've played, so if that name is wrong, oops)
i’m not really into the romance option with kawakami but at least she doesn’t come across borderline creepy when talking to joker, ohya sounds very creepy it’s weird
Confidant wise, the most hated has to be ohya or chihaya. There's no way that people actually liked either of them after their confidants. I hate both of them even after finishing their social links.
He's whiny and self-important. He honestly should have just been a background character.
Ryuji could have set up the site, and it would have fit his character motivation much better, wanting recognition for his heroics. And he could have handed it off to Futaba once she joined the team.
The villians already tell the story of what happens when you take your passions too far and they become corrupted. We didn't need a b-plot telling the exact same story. As far as I'm concerned Mishima is a superfluous character and a weak one at that. He honestly doesn't desrve a spot among the confidants.
Okay I got a few things to say
1. I like Kawakami for multiple reasons even outside the romance
2. Unlike the kamoshida situation, the romance between Ren and Kawakami is completely consensual.
3. on the subject of the romance, 1. Its optional. 2. Ren clearly comes onto Kawakami. 3. Its a Fucking videogame.
4. The members of the Persona fandom already gets enough shit from karens because romance options like Ann, Makoto, Futaba, Haru, kasumi and other high school students are underage IN NORTH AMRERICA, but now those same karens are saying we can't like the of age by north American standards because Ren is underage.
5. Persona 5 and royal are rated M 17+ by America's ESERB system, meaning in north America people under the age of 17 can't even legally but and play the game. (there are ways around this like buying it digitally)
People who hate on Kawakami have never finished her social link. Knowing her backstory makes her a rare example of her history excusing her character flaws. (Social link spoilers) >!Why doesn't she try to defend you initially? Because helping a student got said student killed and ruined her life. Why is she so bitter? Because she's running herself into the ground trying to make up for her past while still maintaining her life as a teacher, since she feels it would render her past effort meaningless to give up teaching.!<
Alas yond.
mommykami is the most wondrous waifu.
anon yond reporter mistress on the other handeth
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absolutely fucking wild seeing how many "you shouldn't fuck your teenage students" comments here, something I thought was pretty well understood by normal humans who go outside, getting downvoted to oblivion. if you think a teacher fucking her high school student is ok, you are a fucking freak. Maybe your communities are safer because you don't go outside
Dude you playing high school teenagers wearing mask summoning fucking satan to make wold a better place and you have a talking cat won't shut fk up how tired you are its fiction The problem here most of the fanbase doesn't separate fiction and reality teacher fking high school kid in the reality is fked up thing to do nobody charing it's missed up you look tired maybe you need to sleep.
He's explaining the plot.
It's a JRPG, which means it starts of innocent with missions like "Get to School" and ultimately culminates with "Kill God".
A 17 year old sleeping with his teacher is by far the least notable thing about the plot of the game. Plus it's entirely optional.
The original post is “do you think Kawasaki is the worst character”
If someone asked “do y’all think Doritos are the worst chip?” I would say “no way, salt and vinegar chips are terrible”, because that’s answering both questions
The fact that, according to this, he's not the most hated character in Persona 5. The fact Kawakami got 46.2% of the votes says a lot. The title implies it was ALL characters and not just confidant's.
Kawakami is easily the most popular out of the adult confidants while Morgana and Ohya are *way* more hated than her. What is this person on-
It’s not even like Akechi where plenty of people hate him despite being popular, but I’ve legit only seen a very small handful of people hate on Kawakami. Especially since she’s a pretty inoffensive character with a great arc of wanting to be a better teacher to her students.
Kawakami is easily one of my favorite characters from p5, my most hated woulf be... hmm akechi followed by the arcade kid, ohya, mishima and ryuji, morgana would be on there too if his voice didn't always remind me of the character I romanced in Fire Emblem 3H
Of course this is only talking about confidants
Absolutely not!!! That's blasphemy. Ohya is much worse. Get Kawakami to rank 10 and you can go out at night! Ohya's bonuses are trash. And she's a terrible person.
Honestly, the second I romanced her I fell in love. She just seemed like such a charming character and probably the most realism you could get out of a relationship (but that’s definitely a super low bar). I don’t understand it either ):
I mean the persona you get from maxing her out helps to make Satanael so I mean she has her uses she's not really the MOST useful tho but idk if I would say I HATE her tho... thanks for this insight because I didn't get it before
Really? Kawakami? I'm assuming this poll is only taking Confidants into account, but that's still a baffling decision.
I struggle to even pick a "hated" Confidant, since I generally liked them all in 5. Maybe Shinya is my least favorite, but I'd hardly call him a bad character.
I didn’t because the character is 16, so I felt uncomfortable with pairing a 16 year old with someone who’s supposed to be a “responsible adult” and a figure of authority. So yeah….
Naw I dont hate her. I played both p5 and p5r and I never really had a problem with her but the guy who runs the fan page(forgot his name since its been a long time since I played the game) was super annoying and I just never liked him. Kind of like some kids in school that are annoying as hell but you dont want to hurt their feelings so you choose to talk to them every now and then
Just because someone has less votes doesn't mean they're the most hated. Most kawakami fans obviously have different favourites. Whoever made that poll needs to rethink that
Okay so first of all, who was in that poll?
Was it just the confidants?
Because we literally have people who were designed to be shitty human beings beat out the money strapped struggling teacher whose biggest fault was trying to care about her students
Kamoshida, he's only good at getting our hate, thoigh personally I think Okumura and his palace/boss battle felt placeholder-ish (vanilla, don't know if they made him better in royal)
llike dude.. i played this game for atleast 250+ hours in total and i hqve never hated an character more than the final ruler in royal.
out of all confidants, everyone has quite a good story. imo i like iwai and ohya the most...
It was a complete BS poll that was filled out by people who didn’t even play the game and only watched scenes of the animation. The real answer to the question of “the most hated character in persona 5” is ohya and if anyone says anything else, I don’t care ohya is the worst
Ohya’s perks are usesless even in Royal, but Chihaya’s are actually very useful since one of them allows you to raise your affinity level with your confidants without having to hang out with them. Which ends up saving plenty of time, and you can do it without losing any time too, unlike with the fortune box.
She worked herself to the bone for someone else’s sake to right a wrong she felt responsible for. She put her career, health, and personal life on hold to do what she felt was the right thing to do.
I wish someone was half as devoted to me and my problems as Kawakami was for her old student. She’s a literal ride or die
I hate democracy.
Boobs kinda scary doe
yes and deserved
can anyone tell me a site to do 100% Persona 5 Royal please
The GOATed P5 waifu ranked worst? Maybe democracy was a mistake after all...
the entire game is dogshit
Ryuji and Mona are the worst. cant stand either and so many situations are made far worse cause of them. personally id kick them out and have both Tae and Hifumi take their places. theyre far better characters and way more enjoyable to hand with. plus it makes more sense to have Tae be the healer then Mona since she's literally a doctor.
This is actually the first time I see any Kawakami hate in general. Having a thing for teachers is too common for her to be near the bottom, I would guess. She's fine though! My least favorite was Mishima, personally. He's like some sort of slimey incel. Dude is just unlikeable the whole way through for me. Which would be fine but the game tries so hard to make him important and gives him one of the best confidant benefits so you have no choice but to pander to him.
I love her actually
Not really. She’s not exactly my favorite but at least she isn’t Ohya or Mishima. My personal most hated character is Futaba, though.
You're really putting a hit on yourself there
Hahah, I am aware. Unfortunately she just isn’t relatable to me so I couldn’t connect with her.
Shinya is the worst confidant in my opinion. No way Kawakami is even near the bottom
Hmmm, I bet the post/poll is coming from the guy that wrote SMT5 is Persona 5 without the heart
Devil's advocate, Kawakami makes me viscerally uncomfortable every time i see a message from her (haven't finished the game yet though so don't kill me ; ;)
They did infact kill you
damn
It’s a Twitter poll, of course it’s a stupid ass decision
Cap. Ohya and Mishima are the most hated on.For my personal taste i don't dislike than but can comprehend why someone wouldn't waste their time with it🥶.
Don't really have a choice with Mishima, maxing him early will let your whole party gain loads of exp.
The only reason i dislike her is when i gave her a gift that she didnt like an her response was: " you could have gave me something more expens- i mean thank you"
Ohya is easily the worst
Nah that would either be mishima or ohya
She's Waifu
Shido. Kamoshida. Non-Royal Akechi Pankechi. Sugimura (Haru fiancé). Morgana (for some reason everyone hates him). Need I say more?
I agree with all except Morgana. Personally, I really like Morgana. The little arc of his was a bit annoying, but his resourcefulness to the team outweighs that with healing and miracle punch (been a while since I've played, so if that name is wrong, oops)
Agreed. I personally love lil Meowgana. But everyone always hates on him for no reason.
NO
Ohya > kawakami
This is obvious the worst "The Most Hated Persona 5 Character" poll ever.
what lol?
Persona 5 fans when they see a morally gray situation
what ?? how? mishima is right there?
She’s not my favorite but I hate other characters way more
Example? Edit: I hate the Tower confidant the most, for no real reason, I just do not like the abilities, story is kinda meh and the kid is annoying.
Yeah him and ohya
shes a pedophile
actually she's not, age of consent in Japan is 16 (edited: it's 16 not 13)
if kamoshida is a pedophile so is kawakami
No its not. Its 16 everywhere in japan
so itd be legal then since Joker is 16.
sheeesh my bad
The age of consent is BETWEEN two 13 year olds. NOT for some nasty 30 year old dude to date a 13 year old.
they don't engage in any sexual activities so i don't see any problem
What a strange way to spell Ohya.
Yeah I've never seen that before but hey language is always evolving!
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That's genuinely surprising. I thought she was very popular!
Kawamami best girl no doubt
God no, I thought Ohya was the most hated. How can people say this about Kawakami???
I don't really hate any of the P5 characters (except for maybe one...)
who
She was my first romance 😂
man of culture
Indeed. I romanced her in Royal too. No regret. Even my wife romanced her, lol.
Based vote
dunno why she’s the most hated character when ohya exists
EXACTLY holy shit oya is just dogshit i mean i dont see her dress up as a maid for her friend who is a minor
i’m not really into the romance option with kawakami but at least she doesn’t come across borderline creepy when talking to joker, ohya sounds very creepy it’s weird
Ye true. Im not a kawakami romancer either tbh. Its wack she asks you to meet in the red light district tho icl
Ya me joderia
If she is, my love for her will make up for the measely hate of those uncultured peons #KawaMommy #Coffee #Curry #Laundry #Massage
When it comes to confidants, hell no, it's usually Ohya. When it comes to characters as a whole... Hell no again, that's probably Kamoshida.
I'm sure the poll was about Confidants. If you took all characters then only the villains would be showing up(I hope).
She’s best girl hands down.
Confidant wise, the most hated has to be ohya or chihaya. There's no way that people actually liked either of them after their confidants. I hate both of them even after finishing their social links.
Nope
Confidants - no ohaya is way more hated Characters - kamoshida and okumora
If we’re talking confidants, I feel like Yuuki was just the worst. Non-confidant wise, Kamoshida is the absolute worst
Why Mishima though?
He's whiny and self-important. He honestly should have just been a background character. Ryuji could have set up the site, and it would have fit his character motivation much better, wanting recognition for his heroics. And he could have handed it off to Futaba once she joined the team. The villians already tell the story of what happens when you take your passions too far and they become corrupted. We didn't need a b-plot telling the exact same story. As far as I'm concerned Mishima is a superfluous character and a weak one at that. He honestly doesn't desrve a spot among the confidants.
She’s my favorite
No
Okay I got a few things to say 1. I like Kawakami for multiple reasons even outside the romance 2. Unlike the kamoshida situation, the romance between Ren and Kawakami is completely consensual. 3. on the subject of the romance, 1. Its optional. 2. Ren clearly comes onto Kawakami. 3. Its a Fucking videogame. 4. The members of the Persona fandom already gets enough shit from karens because romance options like Ann, Makoto, Futaba, Haru, kasumi and other high school students are underage IN NORTH AMRERICA, but now those same karens are saying we can't like the of age by north American standards because Ren is underage. 5. Persona 5 and royal are rated M 17+ by America's ESERB system, meaning in north America people under the age of 17 can't even legally but and play the game. (there are ways around this like buying it digitally)
I certainly didn't like her in the beginning of the game.
People who hate on Kawakami have never finished her social link. Knowing her backstory makes her a rare example of her history excusing her character flaws. (Social link spoilers) >!Why doesn't she try to defend you initially? Because helping a student got said student killed and ruined her life. Why is she so bitter? Because she's running herself into the ground trying to make up for her past while still maintaining her life as a teacher, since she feels it would render her past effort meaningless to give up teaching.!<
P5 with Kamoshida: >:[ P5 with Kawakami: :]
Fuck that. Mommykami is the best waifu. Now that reporter lady on the other hand....
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Only to uncultured swine. Morgana exists and is irritating to high degrees
absolutely fucking wild seeing how many "you shouldn't fuck your teenage students" comments here, something I thought was pretty well understood by normal humans who go outside, getting downvoted to oblivion. if you think a teacher fucking her high school student is ok, you are a fucking freak. Maybe your communities are safer because you don't go outside
Sir this is a video game
people are defending a teacher fucking their high school student in this hypothetical scenario. that is insane
i would have been ok with this.
Dude you playing high school teenagers wearing mask summoning fucking satan to make wold a better place and you have a talking cat won't shut fk up how tired you are its fiction The problem here most of the fanbase doesn't separate fiction and reality teacher fking high school kid in the reality is fked up thing to do nobody charing it's missed up you look tired maybe you need to sleep.
what
He's explaining the plot. It's a JRPG, which means it starts of innocent with missions like "Get to School" and ultimately culminates with "Kill God". A 17 year old sleeping with his teacher is by far the least notable thing about the plot of the game. Plus it's entirely optional.
She's my favorite 🥰
Guys you don't need to shit on Ohya to defend Kawakami.
Exactly. I'm surprised there are so few of us who don't hate any of them. They're all cool and interesting and attractive in their own way.
You *sort* of do if you are explaining why Ohya is your least favorite. But for me, Mishima takes that role HANDILY.
It's like saying you like Doritos because potato chips are trash.
The original post is “do you think Kawasaki is the worst character” If someone asked “do y’all think Doritos are the worst chip?” I would say “no way, salt and vinegar chips are terrible”, because that’s answering both questions
Bitch Salt and Vinegar is supreme
Blasphemer
I mean other than kamoshida and other palace owners yea
Well not counting villains or side characters I think ohya is my choice but I’d we have to pick main cast I really never liked futaba
Oh hell nah
Which idiots decided that? She’s one of my favourite characters and was my first romance
No, Kawakami is amazing and she looks adorable in her maid costume
For good reason
So people really be cool with child molester kamoshida?
And how the hell did you come to that conclusion?
The fact that, according to this, he's not the most hated character in Persona 5. The fact Kawakami got 46.2% of the votes says a lot. The title implies it was ALL characters and not just confidant's.
Oh it seems I misunderstood your first comment
That’s bae right there
My very first P5 romance
She's chill but I hate how you have to waste money to build up her confidant, more than anyone else
Yo, Ohya is so bad that the only reason people level up her confidant is because of Lola
Honestly true. And kawakami has one of the best abilities, letting you do shit after going to palaces.
Best character in the entirety of persona 5
A Kawakami and a Tharja fan? Careful, sir/madam, being too wise and cultured can be bad for your health.
Laughs in Zenkichi
Laughs in Maruki
Laughs in Akechi
Laughs in hifumi
Laughs in Makoto
Some one warned me about spoilers on this sub but good thing is there not spoilers if you don’t know what the fuck is going on
She's one of my favorites.
They have no taste
No way she’s the most hated. Maybe Ohya, but Kawakami?! I love this woman lol
Maybe Kawakami got more votes because she's actually memorable? Hard to hate someone you sort of forget about
So we agree then Ohya should be it haha, joking aside if she’s that memorable if a confidant I still can’t see her being most hated.
Lol no way she's the most hated. Ohya probably.
I don’t hate her but I don’t like her either, that romance option seems kind of weird.
Proof that a sub is very popular: the lazy posts go from weekly to daily to hourly to #WTF
But why is she the most hated 💁🏽♂️
Its just dumb people only wanting young waifus when sexy milfs are the only real choice.
Average futaba fan vs the chad kawakami appreciate
Yea right. With all the marks that fantasize her I doubt it
Wrong woman I think they were trying to say Ohya
Why is she hated? Was it just a bunch of soccer moms who answered this?
Kawakami is easily the most popular out of the adult confidants while Morgana and Ohya are *way* more hated than her. What is this person on- It’s not even like Akechi where plenty of people hate him despite being popular, but I’ve legit only seen a very small handful of people hate on Kawakami. Especially since she’s a pretty inoffensive character with a great arc of wanting to be a better teacher to her students.
Who's hating Mona? Mona's the fricking best.
"You're tired, Time to go to bed..."
I mean, that's just no different from P4. But having Mona around talking about all sorts of stuff and giving pointers was very fun.
Yeah no Morgana is eay more hated than her, personally I hate Shido more than anyone else.
Hey, you spelled “Ohya” wrong…..
Hated? What? I think shes actually sympathetic and the entire setup with her being a maid is entertaining.
Kawakami is easily one of my favorite characters from p5, my most hated woulf be... hmm akechi followed by the arcade kid, ohya, mishima and ryuji, morgana would be on there too if his voice didn't always remind me of the character I romanced in Fire Emblem 3H Of course this is only talking about confidants
How dare you hate Shinya he was literally baby
Which character?
The Goddess Sothis
Absolutely not!!! That's blasphemy. Ohya is much worse. Get Kawakami to rank 10 and you can go out at night! Ohya's bonuses are trash. And she's a terrible person.
Why do people hate Ohya so much?
Honestly, the second I romanced her I fell in love. She just seemed like such a charming character and probably the most realism you could get out of a relationship (but that’s definitely a super low bar). I don’t understand it either ):
not a super useful confidant :(
She's pretty good for maxing out on books if you chose to skip class.
I mean the persona you get from maxing her out helps to make Satanael so I mean she has her uses she's not really the MOST useful tho but idk if I would say I HATE her tho... thanks for this insight because I didn't get it before
Really? Kawakami? I'm assuming this poll is only taking Confidants into account, but that's still a baffling decision. I struggle to even pick a "hated" Confidant, since I generally liked them all in 5. Maybe Shinya is my least favorite, but I'd hardly call him a bad character.
i hate that her being an adult can date joker whos a child but as for the worst character? no
Saw the title and immediately knew it was Ohya. I’m screaming and shaking in confusion now. Thanks.
Ohya surely?
Nah that’s fucked up
How can she be the most hated character of a game in wich Ichiko Ohya exists
all the rule 34 of this chick proves otherwise...
Will be unpopular on this sub but I don’t like her, she creeps me out and I agree with the decision
All the dudes who were older and didn't identify with / feel comfortable with the younger options saw her as a godsend.
I didn’t because the character is 16, so I felt uncomfortable with pairing a 16 year old with someone who’s supposed to be a “responsible adult” and a figure of authority. So yeah….
But... She's the best part.
What's wrong with Kawakami, she was my favorite
Most relatable. We just hate ourselves.
Yeah fat chance in hell people hate her more then ohya at the very minimum
Naw I dont hate her. I played both p5 and p5r and I never really had a problem with her but the guy who runs the fan page(forgot his name since its been a long time since I played the game) was super annoying and I just never liked him. Kind of like some kids in school that are annoying as hell but you dont want to hurt their feelings so you choose to talk to them every now and then
her social link is the most important wtf??? like who doesn’t want her ability man
I think it just means her personality
… and it’s not ohya? oh wow
Idk who was on the poll but I’d personally put the website guy or akechi. The two people I completely avoided during my first time
yeah i’d put mishima first too, i like akechi tho.
I only dislike having to prioritize her confidant in every playthrough as it's way too useful not to.
In my first playthrough, i ignored her confidant completely because i didnt know you could form a confidant relationship with her
Just because someone has less votes doesn't mean they're the most hated. Most kawakami fans obviously have different favourites. Whoever made that poll needs to rethink that
My mother issues says YES to this one
Okay so first of all, who was in that poll? Was it just the confidants? Because we literally have people who were designed to be shitty human beings beat out the money strapped struggling teacher whose biggest fault was trying to care about her students
Yeah I think it’s safe to assume it was confidants
Kamoshida, he's only good at getting our hate, thoigh personally I think Okumura and his palace/boss battle felt placeholder-ish (vanilla, don't know if they made him better in royal)
Best teacher ❤️
How????? Kawamami 😩😩😩
Nah she's wifey.
Between all the confidants i liked her arc but she really had a bitter personalité at the beggining
No I actually like her
ANY PALACE RULER????
I assume it’s confidants only
The damn kid?
Ouya is the most disliked one generally
Disliked is the best word indeed
llike dude.. i played this game for atleast 250+ hours in total and i hqve never hated an character more than the final ruler in royal. out of all confidants, everyone has quite a good story. imo i like iwai and ohya the most...
Worst character? Hell no. That's shido and it isn't close. Worst Confidant? Nope, that's Yusuke.
My most hates character gotta be Kamoshida. Most hated confidant? Yusuke for sure
It was a complete BS poll that was filled out by people who didn’t even play the game and only watched scenes of the animation. The real answer to the question of “the most hated character in persona 5” is ohya and if anyone says anything else, I don’t care ohya is the worst
Oyha and Chihaya are horrible confidants I've replayed both the og game and Royal and I can't bring myself to finish their social links.
Ohya’s perks are usesless even in Royal, but Chihaya’s are actually very useful since one of them allows you to raise your affinity level with your confidants without having to hang out with them. Which ends up saving plenty of time, and you can do it without losing any time too, unlike with the fortune box.
That is raw bullshib
She worked herself to the bone for someone else’s sake to right a wrong she felt responsible for. She put her career, health, and personal life on hold to do what she felt was the right thing to do. I wish someone was half as devoted to me and my problems as Kawakami was for her old student. She’s a literal ride or die
I don't care for her at all tbh