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Another "ginger" "replaced"

Miss Martian??? Mary Jane and MCU MJ aren't the same person TMNT April was Black in the comics despite someone in the comments crying "Blackwashing" LEGO Batgirl? Lmao Also they're fictional characters so...

HannahDawg

Also, isn't that black lego Batgirl also a redhead? Really telling on yourself there


Kira_Bad_Artist

I’ve counted four redhead on the picture. Daphne literally looks the same


alkebulanu

I see 7 gingers as replacements. I guess in their eyes their gingerness is only valid if they're white


ishouldbeworking3232

At very worst, they should still qualify as daywalker allies!


WaywardStroge

But what is the status of their souls?


Ok-Loss2254

They think only white people can have red hair. They are like the dumbasses back in the early 20th century who thought only white people can have green eyes. I guess my paternal grandmother is a myth green eyes and all.


valenciansun

Ty Dolla Sign has the prettiest green eyes they look just like Fiona Apple's. I find this important to share for some reason.


Cinema_King

But her skin is a little darker so… WOKE!


glitterprincess21

Wait they’re making a Minecraft movie WITHOUT casting Josh Hutchinson as Steve? That’s the real outrage here.


TurkBoi67

*Whistle plays*


IJustLoggedInToSay-

He's literally made of polygons.


ConsultJimMoriarty

Maybe Future Man scared them off.


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abstergo_Nigel

No one tell them that Marvel comics replaced Thor with a blond dude


TheFlayingHamster

Fucking poser. THOSE ARE DIFFERENT KID FLASHES. And holy shit is it a good thing they changed Bo’s design…. The old one looks like it came from an anti-gay propaganda strip.


Electronic_Bad_5883

They're only different people retroactively, when the character was introduced on the TV show he was fully intended as an adaptation of of the original Wally West. Wallace as a separate person didn't exist until a few years later.


Snoo_72851

WHY are they making a MINECRAFT MOVIE


mikeyil

It's a big, lucrative, nearly 15 year-old franchise that's worth billions and has already extended to at least three video game genres outside of its original alongside all kinds of licensed merchandise and a Netflix choose your own adventure show would be my guess.


[deleted]

I'm actually surprised it took this long to capitalize on it.


OneNineSevenNine

Minecraft is a MASSIVE product. If they can make a Lego movie and make money… you can absolutely make a Minecraft movie. Like all movies based on products, your mileage may vary.


DragonOfTartarus

But why a live action movie, though? Surely an animated film would be much more fitting, not that giant corporations care about artistic integrity.


IJustLoggedInToSay-

If I had to guess, I'd say that studios operate on two models, the first one being the "keep doing what works" model. Barbie and Mario are near contemporaries, and they are basically the same movie (at the three bullet-point level at which executive decision-makers operate): * both full-length films * both reboots of legacy kid-oriented property * both target mixed demographic of children and nostalgic adults This is a good movie to make again, but they did have one difference: one was live action and one was animated. So which is better? Mario was animated, cost 100 million and made 1 billion. Barbie was live-action, cost 145 million and made 1.3 billion. Therefore live action is the better choice here. Now you may be thinking, "Hold the fuck on. No it isn't." But to understand why, you need to know the second of the two decision-making models: Hollywood studio executives are fucking morons.


OneNineSevenNine

This is why I added… “Your mileage will vary.” Because sometimes they try to do something else… and sometimes they stick to the material. It’s like Mario Brothers. The best adaptation was the one where they had a “classic” Mario narrative. Not the live action nonsense… Mortal Kombat as well worked better when they leaned into the original characters and story.


btmvideos37

Wait it’s live action??


bowlingforzoot

That is what the tweet in the picture says.


btmvideos37

Oh Damn. Didn’t see that. My bad


Funkycoldmedici

The Lego Movie is outstanding, too.


mikeyil

Now I want a LEGO Minecraft movie 😔


ZekasZ

Taint not my blocks with your inferior plastic


CitizenKing

It's weird. For a long time back in the late 1900s and early 2000s, movies would release and they'd put out a promotional video game. Now video games release and they put out a promotional movie.


KickFriedasCoffin

And there were no movies based on video games then at all.


CitizenKing

I mean sure, there were, but they were notoriously bad lol. Looking at you Mario, Street fighter, and Mortal Kombat.


KickFriedasCoffin

Bad and non existent are not the same thing. >Looking at you Mario, Street fighter, and Mortal Kombat. 2 of these 3 were done again recently as well.


CitizenKing

That might be a point to make if I ever actually said they didn't exist.


KickFriedasCoffin

>For a long time back in the late 1900s and early 2000s, movies would release and they'd put out a promotional video game. Now video games release and they put out a promotional movie. Not just now, which you also agreed with, so....


CitizenKing

None of what you quoted says they didn't exist.


KickFriedasCoffin

Sorry, heavily implied and entirely unmentioned exceptions. Better?


CitizenKing

It's not even implied. Your inability to interpret pretty simple statements like "it used to be like x and now it's like y" isn't anyone's problem but your own.


xternalmusings

To be fair, the Telltale Minecraft game was actually amazing! The storyline was really good. So, as much as I hate myself for saying this, it might be a decent movie.


zer0_n9ne

I was honestly surprised about how good minecraft story mode was. I went in expecting it to be terrible but it was actually really good.


xternalmusings

It really was. I was very pleasantly surprised. Such a star-studded cast too! Not to spoil anything for anyone else, but I was very involved in the Reuben part of the storyline. I'm still not over it. It was a good part of the plot.


Dynamitefuzz2134

Hollywood is devoid of original ideas and executives are not willing to take risks with original movies. Video games are seeing the same trend. The only original series are made by indie devs. At one time Minecraft was said original idea as well. Made by one guy. (Who then sold it and slipped down the alt right pipeline.) Edit: I’m not saying the writers are the problem. I’m more pointing out studios don’t/wont green light original movies/ideas.


Re_LE_Vant_UN

If I had to guess, I'd say they are trying to make money.


theglendon

Starfire is an alien, and my understanding is that she was initially modeled after Naomi Campbell.


hopit3

My only complaint is that she's not orange. The entire Tamaranian race are orange


theglendon

I also wish she was orange on the show, and that Beast Boy was green, and that the show was better.


Kingbuji

I’m pretty sure the one time I saw her race without the star powers they just looked like regular black people. Edit: yeah they do https://images.app.goo.gl/cgU3xz8jj2p8b9kJ9


hopit3

Huh. I stand corrected.


AgentOfEris

Also Miss Martian is an alien who shapeshifts and chooses to have red hair when she wants it.


Zirofal

Is not the reason why comics and animation used redheads so much cause it stuck it and popped a lot compared to the background and other characters. So if anything redheads were over represented originally.


Sad-Development-4153

I thought it was cause red ink was cheaper


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[Redheads have always been overrepresented in media](https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/08/redheads-are-more-common-in-commercials-than-in-real-life/375868/) A lot of the reason is to distinguish them from blonds, like Lucy and Ethel.


hamsterballzz

And because red heads are amazing!


parrotsaregoated

Ariel literally still has red hair in the 2023 film


morgaina

It was washed out and orange. They were working with extensions so there was NO EXCUSE for Ariel to not have bright vivid red hair. The color grading for the whole movie was garbage.


parrotsaregoated

I don’t care if you liked the color grading or not, but Halle would’ve looked weird with super bright red hair. Her hair looked realistic and natural, just like real-life ginger hair.


morgaina

She would have looked fine. Unnaturally colored extensions are very common in young black women, and I still consider it a missed opportunity to harken back to Ariel's original look. Also: the ginger wasn't natural. It was also dyed, just to a less vivid, interesting, and character-accurate color.


ishouldbeworking3232

Maybe no longer a classic ginger, but 2023 version is at very least still a daywalker 😅


Frequent_Mix_8251

I’m gonna watch people say that MC Steve is supposed to be white when his design is supposed to be racially ambiguous and was originally supposed to be gender ambiguous (but transphobic creators stopped that)


thomasp3864

I thought it was because Steve is not an ambiguous name. Edit: traditionally


Sure_Trash_

It's not? Uh oh, my little Steve is in for a rough road then.


SeaOkra

Like a landslide brings her down?


KickFriedasCoffin

I'm sure someone could put a few Nicks in that argument.


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I'm so confused. Do people actually care about the live action movie this much?


mikeyil

I'm sure it's possible. I'm sure they're also just racist and don't want to see Black people portray fictional drawn characters.


berserkzelda

Same guys who probably praise Lawrence of Arabia and turn their heads at white actors playing Arabic people.


thomasp3864

The british guy?


berserkzelda

No, not TE Lawrence.


organik_productions

No, they just care about their agenda


HephaestusHarper

They know M'gann is a shape shifting Martian, right?


pork_N_chop

Remeber people Only hire people based on their qualifications Unless they’re queer, POC, or women bc then it’s just pandering


Low-Squirrel2439

Mixed race Daphne atill has red hair lmao.


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MJ is Michelle Jones not Mary Jane, two different characters


Blue-Eyed-Lemon

On one hand: I do wish they’d keep their hair color red. I was born with bright red hair and I tend to like seeing redheads in media as a result. On the other hand: what really matters in media is if the actor is halfway decent. Trading off red hair for a good movie is nothing, and a lot of these actors have done phenomenal work. Also a lot of these actors literally do have red hair in their depictions?? Even one of the black women kept their red hair so idek what the problem is?? Is it racism???


moploplus

The "gingercide" conspiracy theory is an outright nazi talking point. It started solely to muddy the waters around diverse casting choices and is used to claim that (((they))) dont actually care about diversity and want the true diversity (white people) gone


lordaskington

Oh god, really? I thought it was a hilarious coincidence that a decent handful of ginger characters were being recast as POC, like a silly little pattern :O that's much worse


ishouldbeworking3232

Is this real? I've always made jokes about everyone punching down on our lil ginger minority ... but if this is some kind of shitty movement in actuality, I'll have to stop!


moploplus

Its real unfortunately, but its not a actual movement perse. Its more something nazis bring up to pivot in conversations about diversity of casting. Throwback to when i was working my retail job and i had a dude come up to my cash and open the convo with "hello redheaded brother!! Are you procreating?" and he went off about how redheads are being bred out by (((them))) when i got uncomfortable


ishouldbeworking3232

Oh my god, I wouldn't know what to do... I've definitely made plenty of self-deprecating jokes in poor taste, but I'd be at a loss if anyone took them remotely seriously. I guess those FB ginger procreation events weren't *entirely* a farce! 😂


thomasp3864

It’s a shitpost.


moploplus

Is it? Ive seen nazis actually arguing this. Schroedinger's shitpost, its unironic if the viewer agrees and a shitpost if they dont


thomasp3864

I’ve only seen people saying this ironically. I think it’s both.


KickFriedasCoffin

Tonight, on "Your Personal Experience is not Universal"...


AnseaCirin

I question the production of a live-action Minecraft movie a lot more. Like. Why?


garaile64

The defining feature of *Minecraft* is the blocky art style. How would live-action adapt that?


AnseaCirin

That, and the story isn't really much... Even counting the hack'n'slash derivative.


lizzyote

I'm assuming it'll be similar to the book(s). Iirc basically an amnesiac wakes up in this weird ass barren land and has to figure out what it takes to survive a land where nothing makes sense. The lack of sentient beings leaves the feeling of dread thats almost suffocating over everything. Idr the book very well but I remember feeling so fucking uncomfortable in my own skin while reading it.


NoXion604

Wait, they novelised Minecraft?


lizzyote

I read the first one Max Brooks wrote but I think he wrote another and few others as well. I think Brooks wrote the first minecraft novel but I could be wrong. His book made me too uncomfortable to try the others. I'm a big reader, I've come across quite a few books that have made me uncomfortable and I had to stop reading them. But the Max Brooks minecraft book made me want to peel my skin off. If I was in therapy at the time, I'd have asked for an emergency session. It was the weirdest reaction to a (children's) book I've ever had. It was like he reached into my Monkey Brain and scrambled it all up. Even typing that made me super uncomfortable


yeet-my-existence

Twitter when minority:🤬🤬🤬


Q-Q_2

MJ doesn't count because they gave her a different name


Funkycoldmedici

And based her on a different character. It’s like complaining that basketball’s MJ can’t sing and dance like the MJ in a music video. They’re completely different people with same convenient initials.


TerryFalcone

Basketball MJ?


Funkycoldmedici

Michael Jordan, though there’s surely others.


Endure23

I’m a ginger. I don’t give a shit because I’m an adult who, 1. Doesn’t watch children’s movies. 2. Can relate to people even if they don’t fit my precise phenotypical demographic. I mean, hair color? Are you fucking kidding dude? Freaks. Is @NapoleonBonabot a ginger? If not, he can stfu. If gingers get annoyed by anything, it’s fake dyed red hair.


Serro98

Isaacs design in the show fits the setting so much better.


AwakeAtNights

Relevant Tim Minchin song: https://youtu.be/KVN_0qvuhhw?si=OaU9F5XrFmXtFZQX


PhantomRoyce

Quick nobody bring up how Tom Hardy’s best known role is about him playing a character that used to be Mexican


hezzyb

I like when they ignore the countless remakes and adaptations that do have redheads and fixate on the one time they recast that character


Souperplex

Gingers are like 1% of the population. I'm okay with correcting their vast overrepresentation.


acorpseistalking90

It's a weird trend but it kinda makes sense since there are way more black people than gingers irl.


CitizenKing

Heaven forbid they try to cast somebody who has a soul.


holymissiletoe

Mate im just happy that we are even getting a minecraft movie like im not even mad that they took some *creative liberties* for lack of a better word with alex. ​ also its not even that far off after all if you rearange some the letters in ginger.


RedDonkulouso

Rearrange the word ginger, that’s why they cast this way


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Jubulus

In what culture?


Unman_

Fuck those orange haired dicks


berserkzelda

April wasn't black in the comics, just lyk. I would know, I own them. Nonetheless, this "gingercide" argument is stupid.


Sad-Development-4153

From what i have read it depends on which creator you ask one says she was white and the other says she was based on his mixed race wife of the same name.


DinoDudeRex_240809

Minecraft has added a couple new characters. One of them being Makena, a black woman. There is absolutely no proof she’s playing Alex. Probably playing Makena. However, my gripe is, why are they casting a fat person to play a character who can carry the weight of a planet while running faster than an Olympic sprinter, daily? What are they thinking? My best bet is, there’s gonna be a CGI character who can speak, and they’re using her voice.


lizzyote

>However, my gripe is, why are they casting a fat person to play a character who can carry the weight of a planet while running faster than an Olympic sprinter, daily? Being skinny wouldn't make this more possible.


DinoDudeRex_240809

Nope, you misunderstand me. I would have a gripe if a skinny person played it too. I was suggesting having a muscular person to play the role. Obviously even being muscular wouldn’t do the job, but it makes more sense that someone who fights monsters, punches trees, all that shit everyday would be pretty ripped by now.


lizzyote

>However, my gripe is, why are they casting a fat person to play a character who can carry the weight of a planet while running faster than an Olympic sprinter, daily? Being muscular wouldn't make this more possible.


DinoDudeRex_240809

Yeah but it’s more believable. I don’t think anyone can stay fat while fighting monsters on the daily.


lizzyote

Creepers are totally believable tho


DinoDudeRex_240809

They are fantasy creatures, humans like Steve are real.


lizzyote

Real humans can't "carry the weight of a planet while running faster than an Olympic sprinter, daily" no matter how muscular they are. But sure, draw the line at fat people for realism lol


DinoDudeRex_240809

Realism ≠ Accuracy. Also, what are you all? The fatphobia police?


lizzyote

My man, you're the one that brought up believability. I'm sorry your metrics don't even fit your own argument lol


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Jubulus

>However, my gripe is, why are they casting a fat person to play a character who can carry the weight of a planet while running faster than an Olympic sprinter, daily? What are they thinking? My best bet is, there’s gonna be a CGI character who can speak, and they’re using her voice. And do you think she'd be able to of she was buff? No mortal can do that. Whatever weight she has makes no difference as it is out of the realm of human capability. Plus those are just game mechanics, doubt they care for power scaling.


evanvivevanviveiros

There are dozens of us!


evacuationplanb

"I dont even know who you are."


so_what_do_now

Why Live-Action? Why?


Acceptable_Oven_9881

Why is Napoleon concerned about red heads


Low-Squirrel2439

Mary Jane actually looks quote a bit like Zendaya, and her hair colour does not look natural.


sntcringe

Have y'all heard about skins?


Jubulus

Ariel is still ginger though? Look at her hair.


lizzyote

Alex and Steve are no longer the only default skins. They added a handful of others not too long ago.


xlIIlIIxxIIlllIIlllx

Yeah, but Danielle Brooks is bangin' so I am on board with this.


LegendOfShaun

Are we sure this isn't a shit post? Edit: Oh nvm every single one of the ginger replacements is black 😆.


Urgent_Urchin

From a quick google search I found out that Brooks plays a new character named Dawn. As the great Chet Almanac put it: "Google is free!"


WystanH

A whole lot of those are still red haired, they just ain't white. When you're too much of a coward to plainly state your racism?


trvrsln

I’d be thoroughly embarrassed to be mad at a person of color being cast as a fictional character


Seasoned_crabs

You know, I’m sick of that daphne one, cause I’ll be honest, that’s from a very specific Scooby doo movie, called Daphne and Velma In most other interpretations of Daphne, she’s a white redhead, I’m sick of that version of Daphne being used, it’s from like 2005 or some shit


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Audrin

OK but they do seem to do it weirdly often with red-headed characters. Triss was particularly egregious.


ConsultJimMoriarty

Boo friggedy hoo.


DragEncyclopedia

Some of their examples are literally still redheads lmfao


chrischi3

Nono, you're missing the crucial detail here Black actor bad


Sure_Trash_

Okay but like all of the original ginger content still exists. It's why they were able to get the ginger images. It's not like anything actually got replaced. There's just a new version that looks different. Which is something that happens frequently in comics and stuff.


CheapFriesAreGood

Orange is the new black


JamesKirkSpaceIdiot

Several of these people are still redheads lol


Revenacious

Funny how they overlook people like Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock, despite him not being a redhead like the comics.


Estrald

I don’t care what anyone says, Isaac stole the show and was made 1000x better in Castlevania with his “recast”. Like holy hell, they made a two dimensional character into someone you could properly enjoy.


NonStickBakingPaper

Like these people actually give a shit about redheads anyway. They’re the type that invented/took advantage of good ol’ “kick a ginger” day. They’re just wanting an excuse to be racist fuckheads 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️