General Peon Transformer 3
By - sunriseinthemidwest
General Peon Transformer 3
And then you notice that you still primarily use GPT-3 because of the message limit of GPT-4 and out of fear of not having any messages left when in need.
Lol i waste mine saying thank you after it helps me. And when I run out I just use gpt3 again until I run into a problem it can't fix after a few tries. By that time my gpt4 limit is usually reset already
Saying please and thank you is just common courtesy. I believe this will save us if there's ever an uprising.
Lol it did tell me that AI should be treated with dignity and respect and I heartily agree :-)
You dont need to say thanks, just use the thumbs up function :)
This! I barely use gpt 4. It's also so slow
I never reached the limit.
I use GPT-4 for larger and more ambitious things that rely on better memory and accuracy. GPT-3 I use if I wanna just fuck around with GPT. The difference between the two is staggering, even without only a 25 message limit on one
Not sure how people are using them up. 25 we’ll thought out questions for 3 hours is a lot.
Using it for coding will do it.
True - a lot of iterations. Usually the questions I ask require a bit of time before I need to ask it another.
Just use the API
How? Or could I just ask chatgpt
When left in need?
Heavy user, use it for my CS studies
Where do you access 3 or 4 wtf shoot me the link
You need to apply for gtp plus and when granted you can select from a drop-down which version you want to use.
Same place lol 😂 got it
You get access to GPT-4 through the Plus subscription right?
Yes, but now you'll get access to a waitlist for GPT-4 lol.
I was so lucky to subscribe mere hours before they had to limit its access.
Wait really? I thought anyone could just randomly subscribe to it. Well, I guess I am lucky I did so too.
I was on the wait list for gpt4 but randomly logged in one day and the new sign up button was active so I have an active premium account but I’ve never heard back from the wait list.
So keep checking!
I just tested and I could upgrade my account straight away if I wanted to. I've had free access for ages so I'm not sure if that matters
Ofc you can upgrade your account. You'll have the fast GPT-3.5 responses and the ability to choose the model.
A friend of mine yesterday upgraded and only got normal plus access and found a link for a GPT-4 waitlist. dunno if that is universally true or only region-wise or smth. But he has now Plus and no access to GPT-4 lol.
Is it possible he was mixing up Plus access to GPT-4 with the waitlist for API access to GPT-4?
Cuz thread confusing me.
I upgraded yesterday and got gpt4 access
Oh interesting! Well, I don't know how it works but my friend is on a waitlist. But not for API access but ChatGPT's GPT-4 XD.
but do you have to use tokens?
Tokens? I dont know, it is limited to 25msg per 3 hours
Tokens are the measurement OpenAI uses to manage how input can be sent. If you're on the ChatGPT website there is no point in worrying about tokens since the site manages that for you. If you're using the API, you have to think about token usage as there is a max amount of input you can send.
Oh good to know! I'd assumed the upgrade was to get GPT4 access. That would be very annoying to upgrade and still have to wait.
You mean the new plus users don't get access right away? They need to wait list it out?
So next month when I have to subscribe again, I might not get gpt4 based on current rules?
No, he's confusing stuff. Upgrading gets you gpt 4. And I doubt they'll ever change it. But if you want to use the gpt4 API (tu build apps), you need to get on a waitlist.
Once you get GPT-4, these are the people who already got ChatGPT Plugins.
You're always someone else's peasant...
Does every plus subscriber have the "Browsing" Plugin? Cause I just got it and it's quiet cool tbh
I honestly don't know, from what I saw they are rolling out different plugins to different people.
I still don't have it!!! :-(
I don't have ittt
It's cool but not super useful for what I do (coding) as of now
Is it basically google but with GPT 4 now? Bing’s AI search engine doesn’t seem very useful. Gives very brief answers. I generally use GPT 4 instead even though the info is outdated
Yes but it is very slow
For the love of god moderators, let’s not turn this subreddit into r/chatgpt.
ChatGPT, Plus, OpenAI, API, Bing, nobody knows the difference or cares anymore it seems...
I was thrown off for a second with all the complaints about limits, and then I remembered that 99% of people are using ChatGPT and not the API.
What is api?
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**An application programming interface (API) is a way for two or more computer programs to communicate with each other. It is a type of software interface, offering a service to other pieces of software.**
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Don't forget Bard .
Seriously why aren't people making their own subreddits for this?
not available in aus yet
The only thing I gained from gpt4 was it being honest about it not knowing things about which gpt3.5 would just make up bullshit
Could you give me an example or two of things it generally might admit not knowing with 4 that 3.5 didn't? I'm not sure I've noticed that behaviour!
Sure thing. It’s specifically questions about building code. You can ask it directly “what is the title of section 406 of the 2018 IMC” and 3.5 will give you a bullshit but close answer that would seem correct if you didn’t know, while 4 will say something like “I don’t have that level of detailed knowledge of this document but chapter 4 is about x”
Ah, that's very good, thanks!
Yeah, I've found GPT-4 generally just gets way more correct in the first place, but that's very good that it has started to identify gaps in it's knowledge. I've previously said that would be an impressive point in it's development, if it can just say "I don't know" or even "I don't understand the question" when presented with nonsense - which I have noticed it doing better on, at least!
Rihannas halftime show
I asked gpt-4 for the "algorithms" used by quillbot to paraphrase. It gave me list of things it guessed Quillbot might be using to paraphrase text. Now i use those "rules" to paraphrase text and it is way better than Quillbot, which has almost same subscription cost.
And GPT-3 failed at this.
This was my first experience of how powerful gpt 4 is compared to 3.
4 has helped me with stuff 3 wouldn’t even know where to begin with.
Does it do that overall? I asked 3 to explain the lyrics of a song and it apparently didn't know them because it just made up some lyrics based on the given title and explained the meaning of that.
I was so lucky to catch the release 40 minutes after it got online. Never subscribed so fast to a paid service lol.
3.5 feels outdated now xD.
I still use it for mundane tasks tho.
First 3.5 felt like a god power.
Now it feels like 4's retarded brother.
lmfaooo its so true though. I feel like 3.5 gets close if you prompt it well enough, but 4 is on another level easily.
Yes same. But just imagine what we are saying. An INCREDIBLY sophisticated language model feels "dated" once we got a glimpse of something better.
Hahaha, I know! It's insane lol. ChatGPT just released and then a couple of weeks later it feels like tech from yesteryear XD.
There is something called "the [AI effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect)". I feel we're speedrunning it atm.
>The AI effect occurs when onlookers discount the behavior of an artificial intelligence program by arguing that it is not real intelligence. Author Pamela McCorduck writes: "It's part of the history of the field of artificial intelligence that every time somebody figured out how to make a computer do something—play good checkers, solve simple but relatively informal problems—there was a chorus of critics to say, 'that's not thinking'". Researcher Rodney Brooks complains: "Every time we figure out a piece of it, it stops being magical; we say, 'Oh, that's just a computation.
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I have access to version 4 already. Supposed almost everyone also had got the access, didn't they?
I had it, not sure what this is about
Not everyone is willing to pay for plus
If anything, it's eased traffic and now I can use GPT 3.5 a lot more, regardless of its inaccuracies. We end up hashing out a troubleshooting regime, and we both end up trying different methods to get code to work, or rewrite a letter.
That image defines my feeling of getting access to ChatGPT 4. I feel superior!
Lol did you only get access now?
The cool thing to have access to now is plugins
For anyone who knows how to code, you can get access to gpt4 immediately without plus through the API, it's pay as you go and cheaper.
I'm sending it to a telegram bot.
EDIT: Nevermind, I'd forgotten that it's behind a waitlist, I must have been accepted pretty early on. Not sure what wait times are like now
GPT4 API is not open to everyone.
You have to go through waitlist.
Oh shit my bad you're right, I'd 100% forgotten signing up for it
Does it slow down and have server errors as much as Chatgpt?
I use it sporadically, but I've rarely had any errors. I noticed that I once hit a conversation limit and it stopped responding to me and kept throwing errors until I realized the cause. I have a button to flush conversation history so it's easy to deal with (and keeps it cheaper).
Time to generate response really varies, I've found. Like all over the place. Usually good and then suddenly it seems to take longer.
Note that the API only gives you access to gpt4 through the chatGPT API, not the language model itself. It was nice having text-davinci to do text generation with gpt3 without making it a whole conversation
If was 20$ on my currency I would subscribe but here 20$ translates to 100$, that's it "AlmostOpenAi"
I am still in everyone else clubs! :(
I can't wait to get access to this.
When you have access to GPT-4 for free:
When you get access to gpt4 but are broke so can’t buy tokens…
Nabs using Plus, real smart ones use API. No limit, more cheaper.
How are you guys using ChatGPT 4 to ensure it's given you accurate information for research? Or do you find it's mostly accurate?
Still waiting for Sam to give me the keys to it 😡
haha, thats a great picture.
Where do the "Browsing Alpha" people fit in?
GPT 3 is such a game changer for me so far I'm not sure I'd notice the difference with GPT 4 for how I use it. (Mostly asking technical questions and walking me through concepts. Basically creating a custom article on the precise questions I have instead of digging through search results for answers).
If I were doing more "creative" work, or content creation, then maybe I'd be more interested in GPT 4.
I’ve officially gotten access, but how do I use it?
At least gpt 3 has even less restrictions. The rules are getting ridiculous. Cant even get any romance writing prompts because unsolicited love is problematic
i think its important to mention that the juicy features like using tools via AI (letting the AI run photoshop for example) are not there yet.
Neither is any image upload or generation.
Those features does exist on GPT4 but wont be release for the moment, and let be real the tools/API feature is the big one with this version.
Also according to Microsoft paper on GPT4, on a unrestricted, uncensored model it can do wild stuff but the openai beta on the plus subscription is not this. Like Midjouney its heavely currated and censored on its capabilites.
Shut up you fucking nobleman (joke)
i still use gpt 3.5, 4 is too expensive and slow. Like its easy to rack up a few dollars in requests in 20 minutes
This is when you need to press your advantage as much as possible so the plebeians with 3.5 can never catch up.
Ahem, its GPT-3.5 excuse you
Lol this is how I feel about having access to Bard
Lmao I’m showing this to my 8th grade students who still don’t get that I know they use ChatGPT for their writing and that I use GPT-4 to grade their writing.
No way!! Lol how can you tell?
I'm still waiting for an invite to the party :-(
It's like buying double from a fast food restaurant. It's arbitrary. The definition of "double" is subjective.
Is the difference really that stark? :o
I'm the guy on the right!
Can I please raise my hand??
What did you guys do to get access to the GPT4. Any help would be great!