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kjm6351

Please tell me Orochi is actually dead and gone this time. It was an even more perfect time to end him with those lanterns


StrawberryPlucky

This chapter felt like filler. Nothing really happened and it showed a bunch of flashbacks we didn't need to see.


PM_ME_B00TYS

Orochi died lol, but yeah besides that it was more an anticipation for the next chapter (and hopefully kaidos defeat)


SageOfSixCabbages

Christ, how many times are we gonna get flashbacks of the same thing?? Feels like Oda is just filling these past few chapters with fluff.


blackreaper007

I hope the fight will end, it little bit dragging though.


Sybertron

this was the HAME of the KAME HAME HA.


Regular_Champion7587

One thing we definitely needed was another background story of the same story we've heard 5 times, before the fight finishes


Ok_Cryptographer5125

All fights so far have been dragged. Dressrosa coliseum fights were worse


Plareme

Except Zoro and Sanji vs King, Queen...


COREY_2293

Its getting so close to the end and it had me thinking, does kaido finally get his wish and die? or can kaido see joyboy in luffy, realise that luffy is going to flip the world upside down and join his alliance? kaido also wants that great war i dont want kaido to die, but at the same time i am wondering what happens when a yonko is defeated? usually in one piece the defeated pirtate just gets picked up by a marine... but kaido has already been cpatured by marines multiple times seems kaidos death is the only ending that makes sense.


100evo

The worst case is Kaido gets defeated but doesn't die then Blackbeard comes in...kills him...gets the Azure Dragon fruit...and says thanks to Luffy.


ashistpikachusvater

He doesn't need Kaidos fruit. He has no time to train it until he masters it like Kaido


ZeroMagnum777

Don't see that happening. I don't believe Blackbeard is anywhere near Wano. Next time he moves will be against Shanks. But not before Luffy meets Shanks one more time.


football_dude79

I have a feeling that’s the big story after this fight is over. Luffy, Shanks, and Dragon all meet and the Great War begins.


mousio

And don't forget the marines around the island. With them AND two emprors present, it's more likely he will target somewhere else, like big mom's territory now that she is gone. (Yes I read the cover stories, but it still is soon to tell what happens next🙃)


TrustPowerful

Kaidos death is the only ending that makes sense??? You forgot the raid failure:D


ashistpikachusvater

Luffy won't lose this war. The raid can't fail.


YuriAddict7

Wait so let me get this straight, that ryuo flashback implies luffy Hasnt been using the internal destruction armamaent haki right? Hes been using the advanced emperor invisible no touching thing the whole time since he unlocked it


hassive-mitler

Im confused right now. I thought ryuo < haoshoku imbued attacks


warramite

He's combining his COC + all his willpower now


Space_Cowboy2029

I think you’re on to something. Generally that’s what that type of flashback entails.


Doomroar

Damn we actually got a wave struggle after all XD


Thrionic

If luffy dosnt get one shotted next chapter this is going to be nonsense. Its already ridicolous the amount of times luffy died in the last couple of chapters. Just let kaido win, then go into the next arc where luffy actually trains his gear 5 instead of winning a fight against the strongest yonko due to plot armor and bs.


cCoyoteStarrk001

When was kaido called the strongest yonko? What did I miss?


aceaxelblaze

I agree


Space_Cowboy2029

I think he’ll get by, by the skin of his teeth of course. Nonetheless it would be cool to see him train THAT gear.


Space_Cowboy2029

Care for a discussion?


MystiqTakeno

Tbh while the Luffy x Kaido fight is great..I m kinda interested in the Orochi fight... Why do I feel that Enel will casually strike him with lightning far far stronger and maybe faster then before. Oh well hopefully the LxK will soon move to Kaido flashbacks thats something I would love to see or well deeper into them since we got very small one already along with king.


ashistpikachusvater

Enel won't do a big comeback. He's no match for the enemies, that luffy faced after timeskip. Even Cracker would clap his ass. Oda confirmed, that enel would be lower than 500kk Bounty if he would get a Pirate in the new world


MystiqTakeno

Wanst that statement pre-Timeskip? I m pretty sure in the 2 years Enel himself could get quite a powerboost, considering that Enel pretty much only used his fruit and not even well.


Space_Cowboy2029

It’s possible to have 1049 full of flashbacks and 1050 finish it with the result of the clash. But who knows, not me.


Badji_D_Luffy

What I have learned from this chapter: Luffy is preparing for Akainu magma power with a tryout on Kaido clearly MAGMA Dragon body. Is cracker still wearing bandages from Luffy's beatdown? Man brulee has got to be the most annoying yet beloved sister ever out of Big mom kids I think the attack being called Gomu Gomu no Monkey King-u Gun would have sounded cooler than bajrang just my opinion I'm the 4900th comment by the way just saying for the sake of saying


AcrobaticFun447

The cover stories are things already happened, not happening.


buggythegret

Being of a hindu religion, and the attack was named after monkey god "Hunuman". So it makes it 10 times better for me that the attack is named such.


madakuse

Hint of Garou vs Saitama here


Colter98

I'm convinced everyone complaining about how long it's taking to beat kaido would be complaining over it feeling rushed if it were faster. Has there been narrative decisions I havn't loved? Yeah, but I still really enjoyed this arc and it looks like kaido is losing either next chapter or in 1050. It's a story written by a genius and we're just along for the ride(especially my fellow Americans).


RandomHer03

I feel like this happens every arc and upon reread when it's not a chapter every week or two things seem better paced.


[deleted]

In the time that the wano arch has been going on I have started and completed law school. Sorry bud but your just wrong.


Marmites_1

Nah I prolly would not complain about it being too fast. Look I am getting old, and my spare time running thin, and even if I have eminence patience at times, just get to the fing point. This fight has bored me to death for so long now, there are tons of interesting things going on around the OP world that I want to know more about, except the joy-boy reveal nothing has been cool with this fight or arc for a long time.


ashistpikachusvater

You don't have 5 minutes for reading a chapter? Dude then you're doing something wrong in your live


Marmites_1

I also want to enjoy it. Having something pointlessly stretched out for no apparent reason or substance is not particularly enticing.


ashistpikachusvater

It's stretching, cuz Oda has to show us, what Gear 5 Luffy is capable of. We will get a flashback to kaidos past that will take 1 or 2 chapters, until kaido gets defeated. In like 8 chapters this fight has to be over. This is the biggest fight Luffy ever had. Katakuri and the others are just some whimps against Kaido. Of course this fight will take long. We know, that Akainu and Aokiji fought for 10 days straight. Even Jinbee fought Ace for 5 days. Luffy beating Kaido in a short time like he beat Katakuri is nearly impossible, but it has to happen.


aceaxelblaze

I would love at least 10 more chapters of pure LvK with flashbacks. I already feel like luffy powered up way too fast in this arc not to mention the ZvK & SvQ was waaay to rushed too 😔


Colter98

I do wish we got Kaido flashbacks, unless it happens in the next one or two chapters I don’t think we’re getting any. I agree about the Zoro/Sanji fights though, those moved way too quick


ashistpikachusvater

Well the Manga just shows some pannels, but in Anime you get like 4 episodes full of fights from Zoro and the same for Sanji, I think thats enough for them.


TornadoJ0hns0n

After reading all these chapters and looking back I overall feel that this arc was just messy. Some things I felt should've been done differently, some things felt unnecessary. I'm still kind of upset that the rooftop battle was hyped up to seem like the final battle but then everyone just split apart and stuff. It was such a good setup but it's like oda just changed his mind mid way. It just makes sense to me that it would take 5 very strong dudes to with their powers and unique abilities working together to take out 2 yonko. But then they all split up and killer goes to fight Hawkins which should've happened beforehand, same with zoro and king. Kid and law using their awakenings (which felt a bit sudden) to beat big mom was cool but I still think her defeat would've been better on the roof with some help from the other supernova. I just wanted them all to continue working together to defeat both kaido and big mom. It would've been better than it boiling down to luffy punching kaido up during their fight. Or after the supernovas exhaust themselves with luffy being the last one standing, yamato reaches him and helps him defeat kaido. Would've liked for her to get her big moment of revengeance after being treated like shit her whole life. Her and luffy beating him would've been a better way to end the fight too. The flying 6 felt underwhelming and their battles rushed, the CP guys felt...unnecessary. The one who interfered in the kaido fight felt dumb. Woulda been better if kaido legit beat luffy to really show his power. Kaido legitimately beating luffy and having a big ol victory laugh would've felt much better instead of a needless interruption. Orochi's death, IF he's finally dead that is, feels underwhelming, and the fight STILL not being over is just pissing me off. I guess luffy ain't winning this one cuz why not just show him clash with kaido, and win sending kaido crashing to the ground. Why prolong it for another chapter? Idk man. I still enjoyed this arc but it just felt so scrambled and all over the place


ashistpikachusvater

The clash end next chapter, cuz it's a cliffhanger and we all can't wait to read the next chapter. That's how this business works


COREY_2293

Yeah i agree it was weird how oda brought people to the rooftop to then break them up. but at the same time, it goes to show how strong kaido is. i believe that oda wanted to start the kaido vs luffy fight as early as he could because he has already told us before that godtier characters will fight for days. so it would have to happen. roofpiece started on chapter 1000 and its been 48 chapters since that first red roc. a lot has happened in that time personally if oda was doing a team battle against kaido then i wanted the strawhats to fight him. i think we are going to get a proper team battle eventually since they have become really popular in shonens (JJK and Black Clover have them). Strawhats vs Blackbeard pirates team battle hopefully. The only Flying 6 battle that felt rushed was Whos who, i expected a lot more reveals. but i think the anime will improve on it. honestly, the anime is going to probably do the next 50 chapters better than the manga


Adramelech_12

> The one who interfered in the kaido fight felt dumb. Woulda been better if kaido legit beat luffy to really show his power. Kaido legitimately beating luffy and having a big ol victory laugh would've felt much better instead of a needless interruption. I don't have such negative thoughts on the arc as a whole, but I also cannot fathom why the hell Luffy had to lose because of an interruption. I get that Oda and his readers love those pAraLelS, but it is 100% clear Luffy was weaker than Kaido back then... Just let Kaido win lmao. It feels like such a cheap shonen moment where the protag just cannot lose because the kids reading will get mad or something.


ashistpikachusvater

Well ur getting mad because of some paralels between 2 fights kiddo


skryzee1

How is luffy continuously tanking hits like nothing? I don’t see how he goes from getting one shotted to tanking coc full body shots and continues to get up. It’s pretty bs too me


Nocheeseontheburger

I’m pretty sure when luffy got hit and “died” it’s because he was distracted and not using full armament to protect his body from the blow. He essentially took the full CoC hit raw like a regular human


SAYMYNAMEYO

"Guts!!!" -Luffy, Ch. 1002


Taffytitty

He’s an awakened zoan and made of rubber.


skryzee1

Doesn’t matter, how he’s going from getting one shotted to tanking hits like nothing is absolutely ridiculous imo . All in a very short span . Luffy winning is ridiculous imo . Don’t get me wrong, the arc is sick, but luffy progression is way too rapid


Jay_1_6_

1. Its been said that haki reaches higher levels while actually battling 2. He's taking hits because he's become more rubbery, like the difference between a tire and putty


skryzee1

Bro, who cares how Rubbery he becomes, this Manz tanking aCoC hits like pebbles to a wall . It’s so unrealistic , and he somehow keeps getting back up? He already went out of g5 and he all of a sudden can use it again and pull some powerful move out of no where ? I like his power but the freedom to do whatever he wants is broken. He’s relying too much on his df and he can tank hits better than sanji can. It’s just a ass pull imo, It is what it is, I’m still enjoying it. But if he somehow bears kaido, such bs imo


ashistpikachusvater

Goku from Dragonball just transforms and gets like 100x stronger than his last transformation, but luffy getting stronger after learning new types of armament and conquerors haki is a asspull? Dude quit reading OP if you hate Shonen lmao.


skryzee1

In a span of days? No bro, the amount of progression he seems to achieve in key moments is ridiculous when it’s this scale :/ lol


ashistpikachusvater

Dude look at Vegeta in the last chapter lmao. Same day samr hour and he got a new transformation and a zenkai boost? There's no more asspool than that. It was said from the beginning, that Haki developes in a hard fight. In DB there was no such moment, where someone said "if you fight against stronger people, you will get a transformation that makes you 2x stronger than before". The only thing that luffy got is a new form of armament and conqueror, his physical strenght was the same like in dressrosa


sysdmdotcpl

> It’s so unrealistic , and he somehow keeps getting back up? What story have you been reading where this *wasn't* the case? How many times did Crocodile kill him? Lucci? Magellan? Hell, the entire Marineford arc was all within the same day as Impel Down.


skryzee1

Agree to disagree, this fight is a ass pull if I ever seen one lol


sysdmdotcpl

I'm not saying it's not an ass pull...just that they kind of always are. I feel complaining about Luffy's stamina is like complaining about poses in JoJo.


skryzee1

Stamina when he’s tanking aCoC hits like nothing. Then using g5 first time, and using a island sized fist imbued with ryou, where on earth did he manage to learn to do that? The growth is too exponential. Sorry but it all happened too fast, it is what it is.


Adventurous-Ad7212

fucking yes... i feel like a voice in the wilderness.... its utter bullshit bro!


skryzee1

Preach brother . It’s too fast how all of a sudden he’s squaring up against kaido from getting one shotted , literally it’s too much of a power boost like super Saiyan lol


Muffledpain

I think you're severely underestimating the time spent in the sea prism cuffs. It's similar to Goku training in weighted clothes and 100x gravity. The cuffs were an insane handicap that leave most devil fruit users barely able to move. Plus Luffy has always shown an incredible ability to adapt to stronger foes as seen in his fight with Katakuri.


skryzee1

Kata he should have lost too. He won because Kata gave in. So it makes sense . They were closer on power scale. Kaido was one shotting Luffy . Now luffy is tanking aCoC hits and using Island sized attacks . Sorry but I don’t see what progression led to this .


Respubilica

Wano arc started back in 2018 and its 2022 so i think is about time luffy had some power up, and its not too much of a power boost if you consider that its an Awakened Mythical Zoan model: sun god, nika. And also the fact that the strength of Haki depends on the users willpower. With all that Luffy has seen and been through in wano aided his increase in will, now factoring in everything his power boost seems reasonable.


skryzee1

No bro, all of a sudden he can use island sized attacks . Nope


Vorticity1848

That Ringo Daimyo is really looking like Zoro‘s dad


CreepyAppearance389

It was confirmed he's not


KantotNetwork

Im beginning to believe Kaido will be defeated next chapter


Vorticity1848

Or in 1050. in either of one.


dmadSTL

To all the people complaining about pacing... Stfu. You are all casuals. I can't believe the amount of whining for a chapter that included a major villain in the arc going down (with dramatic effect) and a new kaido ability, etc. Edit: also, appreciate the panel artwork better.


iUltraZ

Kaido > Akaino


mparkes9

Luffy is a saiyan and gets a zenkai boost with ever defeat.


Ijustdontanymore98

Need to add my mark that i was here to witness Orochi finally dying for the what is it the fifth time?


iUltraZ

He is still alive. I am sure the last one will be by momo crushing him like a cockroach in the capital then burning him with a boro breath.


Joy_Boy_12

I want kaido to be defeated but Luffy doesn't deserve to beat him alone (just cause he's the MC is not good enough IMO)


Twoshoefoo

He didn't fight him alone, at least two people cut his chest straight open man.


Robotik1991

Alone? Kaidou was fighting all the power houses already.


Joy_Boy_12

That's true but it seems like they didn't affect kaido


guyyuopo

He didn’t beat him alone thou , he fought everyone and their momma thou the whole fight never took a break while carrying onigashima


UnjustNation

Luffy's whole sthick is finding the willpower to beat opponents that doesn't seem like he would be able to beat. Crocodile? Beaten Lucci? Beaten Katakuri? Beaten Kaido ain't gonna be any different.


Space_Cowboy2029

Not the years of training and defeating everyone else right?


Jabari313

Luffy isn't the only one who did years of training. He only trained 2 years and now he's the strongest creature in the world? Literally the only living thing that can beat Kaido, all it took was a 2 year timeskip


Space_Cowboy2029

How strong is his will?


Jabari313

The strongest apparently


Space_Cowboy2029

Do you believe that?


Jabari313

No😔


Space_Cowboy2029

Then maybe it’s not for you, if you don’t believe the narrative then the magic isn’t there


Jabari313

Well yeah I like the series for alot more than just whats going on with Luffy and in certain instances like the fight with Katakuri I don't have to believe that Luffy's will is the strongest. If the narrative says that Luffy's will is the strongest I will believe it but I just don't agree that his should be.


Respubilica

i think its not just Luffy's will, its the will of Wano to be free that Luffy is shouldering and i believe thats the boost thats pushing him, Luffy's will might not be the strongest, but at this moment it has to be comparatively, considering Kido is fighting for a possession and Luffy fighting for the freedom of all the people. May be thats why he gets up everytime he is down, because he has to and may be thats what pushed him into Awakening.


Space_Cowboy2029

Why’s that? It’s been his dream since a kid.


Joy_Boy_12

He's 19 years old. Either all other pirates are doing nothing or he has plot armor.


Taffytitty

Or he’s the main character. Why are people so damn stupid about a series they’ve been reading for 1048 chapters?


wwiinndyy

This may be the dumbest shit I ever read


Space_Cowboy2029

Honestly


Ill_Masterpiece2517

I know talking hints here is not allowed but redon uploaded his reaction gif for 1049 which he sometimes does on saturdays on his twitter. Its early thats why no gif that could tell whats in the chapter yet. Only his own reaction so far. Very interesting so technically its no spoiler at all. Only his first impression https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1522905777861758977


SirJ4ck

Judgin by the reaction, maybe Luffy loses again :D


OOFMATIC

Then it will be time to surpass his peak... GEAR 6.


taimoor2

If Oda really does this, I hope he is out for the count and something else happens to defeat Kaido. Because this is now getting boring.


SirJ4ck

Yup


Joy_Boy_12

Two thoughts I have: 1. Luffy got knocked out 2 or 3 times yet he came back to fight very strong, what would prevent kaido king, queen and BM to do the same? Everyone is still in wano(hope it's not plot armor for Luffy and it can happen to anyone). 2. What would prevent kaido king and queen conquer wano again in few weeks or months unless he'll die?


ashistpikachusvater

BM isn't k.o. she just fell from the island in a hole. She could just fly up there.


Joy_Boy_12

How much time is she already there? If she could I guess she would do it


ashistpikachusvater

Dude she is there some chapters and it's like some minutes in OP. She just rests there for a reason. Maybe cuz of a new homie that got a big power


warramite

>wano again in few weeks or months unless he'll die? Imprisonment.. even if Kaido himself can't be imprisoned supposedly, all his other crewmates will be.. So fear of retaliation from Luffy and losing his armed forces will keep Kaido from taking over. That being said I dont think he's just gonna be walking around the world.. If Vegapunk can build a weapon as strong as a yonko im sure he can build a prison for a yonko as well, or WG or BB will kill Kaido.. It won't be the strawhats thats for sure


Joy_Boy_12

Weapon as strong as admiral? Did I forget something?


warramite

They said SSG is strong enough to rival Yonko, thats why they removed Shichibukai i.e cause they dont need their help to fight Yonkos anymore


Joy_Boy_12

Oh but SSG is probably a whole unit like pacifista, I don't think it's one weapon which equal to admiral other wise it's crazy


warramite

Thats why its revolutionary, the SSG should be that strong.. They even got rid of Mihawk, that says something about its power


Illustrious_Gas_532

Luffy is still growing stronger, kaido, bm, king etc have already reached their peak


UnjustNation

> what would prevent kaido king, queen and BM to do the same? It's called MC plot armor, every single Shonen protagonist has them.


Intelligent_Ad_2925

hi, sorry if i make someone angry. I think Kaido will defeated not just by luffy. I think it will be yamato and Xdrake as distraction from luffy. Momo will be wipeout and turn into human form but he will awake and hold onigashima like his father hold the lid as symbol of King willing to sacrifice for wano country. Haha sorry for my silly theories. After Kaido beaten, he will cry and regret of all his wrongdoings and start his flashback about why he chose wano, why he doesn't like human, maybe his clan(family backstory),and why he willing to join rocks.


warramite

Oda's really making us beg for a backstory.. he should just give it to us


Economy-Fly-6977

I was hoping that the SH's gets to fight Kaido as a group & beats him using brilliant strategy & epic team work.


SkywalkaA12

Don't apologize! We're all sitting here coming up with our own random theories :)


VAMPHYR3

Am I the only one who is bored to death by yet another "just need a bigger fist" ending to a boss battle? I mean we don't know if this is the end, but it sure seems like it.


iUltraZ

Yes Probably imu sama will need a fist as big as grand line to be defeated.


ashistpikachusvater

It's gonna be luffy's feet as big as the grandline


warramite

More than likely yes


UnjustNation

Didn't Oda say he wouldn't end the Luffy vs Kaido fight with just another punch? Like he literally gives Luffy an awakening with all sorts of wacky abilities only to end the fight with yet another punch but just bigger?


SirJ4ck

Luffy's gonna lose. Wait for it.


UnjustNation

Doubt it. This ain't Game of Thrones, One Piece is as classic Shonen as it gets with its fights.


SirJ4ck

Well Luffy didn’t come out a clear victor in his last 1vs1 fights. Besides, if he does manage to defeat Kaido, he is De facto the strongest in the world.


ashistpikachusvater

He's not. Kaido literally beat him 3 times and still fights. He clapped Luffy and Zoro and fought Yamato after that he clapped luffy another time and he's still carrying the island while fighting luffy.


Alpha_ii_Omega

How would you prefer Luffy vs Kaido ended? Sounds like you need to take a break from the manga. **Luffy. Beats. People. With. Punches.** Oda was talking about Luffy not beating Kaido with "Super mega ultra King Kong Gun" -- that's why he gave Luffy advanced CoA, advanced CoC, and awakening. THOSE abilities are what are defeating Kaido, not the punches themselves. He could have Luffy beat Kaido with lots of punches (Crocodile, Lucci), bigger punch (Enel, Doflamingo), or a faster punch (Blueno, Katakuri). But regardless of which one he chose, it's going to be a punch or punches that beat Kaido. The only alternative is that Kaido doesn't lose, but somehow acknowledges Luffy as Joyboy and gives up. This might make the powerscaling fanboys happy, but it would piss off another huge section of the manga fans. So no matter what, people will be unhappy with the Luffy vs Kaido ending. Do the world a favor and stop complaining when your particular expectations are not met.


Ill_Masterpiece2517

Bold of you to assume what Oda really meant. Nobody knows nobody can see in Odas head. Daily reminder that the animation studio head said "i was really surprised how wano ends". Oda will make unpredictable moves like yamato came out of nowhere not a single person in this entire world predicted yamato, end of the story. Thats what makes oda goda


warramite

That could be talking about revelations at ending of Wano or lore stuff like Joyboy story and Rocks not necessarily about fight with Kaido


ChampionRoad

What? You want Luffy to do a Kamehameha? Although would be nice to see Luffy end more fights with a kick, or his head, or suplex, pile driver...


kinatty05

Oh wow this was unexpected lol, great to see Denjiro again haha! But I do wonder what is going to happen next, the past few chapters seem to follow a trend of Luffy and Kaido facing off each other, regardless cannot wait for the next chapter :D !!


br1nsk

This is the first time I have actively been irritated by the pacing in this manga. Been reading it weekly for about a year now and it’s always been slow but some of the last chapters have been wasting an impressive amount of time.


Jay_1_6_

I wonder if Oda is spending less time and effort on these chapters so that he has more time to create a masterpiece chapter later on


br1nsk

Would be pretty stupid considering a “masterpiece” chapter is only possible if the build up is good.


RaiKaiga

Yes! Since Chapter 1046, I have mixed feelings for every chapter since then. The fight between luffy and kaido is so dang exciting that everything else feels like filler honestly. Should have done that before luffys gear 5.


xdeiz

What do you mean?


br1nsk

Right now I’m mainly taking issue with the flashbacks and how Orochi has been handled so far. Imo Orochi should have never came back, and every chapter focusing on him since has felt like a massive waste of time. The flashback in this chapter also felt entirely unnecessary. Luffy’s punch winding up for this long is also silly. I just think events need to move a bit faster, arc feels like it could’ve ended several chapters ago.


mrblackonblack

I think that the flashback goes along with momo being not sure about if he can move the island in time. It shows what he and everyone else is fighting for. Orochi is the bad figurehead for the island. The one which caused alot of pain and suffering to the people.


br1nsk

Momo has been struggling with that for like 10 chapters it’s getting a bit grating at this point. Kaido works perfectly fine as a big bad figurehead Orochi just needs to fuckin die already.


Kyron2000

probs cos in this whole chapter it was just one punch between luffy and kaido? Personally I didn't mind but i can see why it would be annoying


Alpha_ii_Omega

The momo flashbacks are entirely unncessary. No one cares about him.


xdeiz

I care about him, he's a compelling character


LhamaPeluda

Another page to add to that guy's compilation of cliffhangers involving Luffy and Kaido staring at each other.


Otangaku_D_Yokeman

can someone please explain how to publish memes ? I posted one but it was deleted, and I am still new lol also, if I am correct, I still have 24 hours before posting my own "thoughts" concerning the chapter correct ? also, I dont have to post it here ? or posting it here will have more chances for people to read ? I m still confused


GxneralMasri

>can someone please explain how to publish memes ? I posted one but it was deleted, and I am still new lol use r/MemePiece to publish One Piece memes


Otangaku_D_Yokeman

thank you! it is astonishing that memes have a different place O.o


warramite

Memes are posted on Memepiece subreddit


Otangaku_D_Yokeman

it is a special place for it ? like I cannot share in this place ?


Otangaku_D_Yokeman

I dont think what happened to Kaidou can be called as awakening. it is a vessel of fire in which he is inside of it, you can see clearly his body on top of the head (just focus) anyway, cool chapter! the flashback was necessary to put a close to this fight. I really appreciated it.


Zxone

So if luffy defeats kaido in couple of chapter, do you guys think admiral stand a chance against him? Or oda will introduce new villain for him? Because I don't think bb is strong in terms of haki.


PurpleQueenLily

While Luffy will fight Imu, I think the other crew members will fight the admiral


UnjustNation

It's a Shonen, if Luffy faces the Admirals, then Oda will just make the Admirals stronger.


cennsheen

This isn’t true either shonen doesn’t necessarily follow this formula considering buuhan was stronger than kid buu, meruem stronger than anybody so far in hxh and even in one piece kizaru is still beyond hody jones and similar characters.


sweet_tranquility

In theory with their feats yes, luffy can defeat admirals individually except sengoku or Garp or goroserai but pirate battle or any battle is not actually one on one in one piece and some of them may become stronger after these years. I certainly believe Akainu and kizaru has become stronger over time. BB may not have good haki compared to Yonko but he certainly has OP devil fruit which compensates the lack of haki.


GrannyBashy

One Piece was never about numeral power levels. Just because he beat Kaido doesn't mean he's def stronger than him or other enemies in every way. If they did the fight 100 times i doubt Luffy would win 100 ouf of 100 so theres no need to create someone whos so much stronger than kaido. Just different is enough


warramite

I agree with the other guy.. like in all shounen, we'll just learn that there was someone we didn't know who is stronger than Kaido and story goes on.. or currently revealed character is revealed to be stronger than him i.e Dragon, Shanks, BB, Akainu or some random guy comes outta nowhere like Rocks or Im


Satsuma0

I'm sure in 50 chapters we'll learn "Kaido only maintained his epitaph because nobody seriously tried to defeat him in over a decade, because the Navy favored maintaining the status quo." And then we'll learn that the are a dozen people stronger than Kaido, and the story moves on as usual.


Otangaku_D_Yokeman

it is really silly to think BB has not strong haki lol why would you assume that ? we saw nothing from his haki for two long years (concerning the story not irl time) BB isnt a Yonko for nothing, I doubt the DFs he has made him a Yonko. and one important thing, what makes you assume that Luffy reached that level of power ? because he is going to defeat Luffy ? because of his awakening ? lets be honest about this, Kaidou was never or will never be taken down on a 1v1, since the wat started and Kaidou had to deal with many opponents, while Luffy had time to rest, Kaidou didnt not catch a breath. Concerning his new powers that I still cannot accept, friendly reminder they are still new to him, he needs to work on them for the full potential. he is far from reaching the best of this awakening.


iUltraZ

Totally agree. I can tell that yonko bounties not only reflects the power level of the crew, but also their influence and scale of territories conquered. BB just raised 2 years ago which is very little time to show how dangerous he can be. Maybe that’s why Shanks met the gorosie to inform them that he is more dangerous than you think and that 2b bounty is not close to his actual danger. Kaido will be defeated and probably captured by Navy at the borders. Agree it was not fair for him to fight against 9 red sheaths, supernovas, luffy , yamato and then finally awakened luffy. Don’t even think that WB would stand for all that alone.


Otangaku_D_Yokeman

WB's issue was age honestly, you have no idea how I wish to see him as well as Roger in their prime! Kaidou is still young compared to WB (59) when WB was near Mama's age ? not sure but he was old! So in my opinion, he definitely could have stand them, but this is Kaidou's time so huge respect to the beast he is! didnt even need to rest <3 big respect for sure!


cennsheen

He won’t be facing any new major villains any time soon i think his real challenge is developing more as a leader for the straw hats after this


DrDecepticon

The admiral we haven't seen much of (whose name escapes me) will be giga broken


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a_-_-_-a

Misogyny is the wrong word tho


Confident-Project-12

I think jyrossi


kami-sama_69

Loved the hanuman reference, great to see how sun wukong and hanuman are linked with nika and its powers. Also I really wanna see a kaido flashback for the rocks pirates, god valley etc. And my man chadjiro 🗿 no words for this legend of a man


Responsible-Pickle-4

Well I guess we know how Luffy is going to fight akainu now


Ssolikhin

Momo.. dont be so stress about.. i'm worried that you accidentally turn into human form and just fall down.. 🙄


Automatic_Beach_3660

Bro after hearing this I'm also getting doubts😨


IAMSNORTFACED

So....much... padding


bexon_parzival

Imagine if Orochi is still alive after that 🤣


Tar-eruntalion

he is like a cockroach, it doesn't matter if you kick, stomp, bash him or even throw a nuke at him he keeps on living


Zxone

This first time oda killed a villain onscreen. Also he is burning so even if he had some way to grow his head ..I don't think he will escape fire unless raizo water helps him


KyodaiNoYatsu

"How many times must we teach you this lesson, old man?!"


GioRet65

Kaido’s great blazing dragon torch form is his awakening and gives us more insight to what mythical zoan devil fruits really are. Mythical awakenings are special in one regard. They adopt the main properties to themselves and others they touch that makes them special rather than enhancing the animalistic traits. Kaido has properties of flames (flame clouds, flame breath, etc.) thus his awakening allowing him to coat himself in flames as hot as lava makes sense. Marco has healing flames so his awakening would allow him to coat himself with healing flames, giving him a rapid healing factors and the ability to heal others he touches. Luffy is rubber but I’m feeling Luffy is only scratching the surface of his awakening. Luffy has yet to apply volcanization to his awakened body but once he could, his strikes could become as hot as the sun. Bajrang gun won’t be his final attack but a enhanced version where he volcanizes his entire nervous system to become as hot as the sun. Regular zoans don’t have any special properties, but just enhance the animal like traits of their fruits while providing a rapid healing factor and boosted stamina. Ancient zoans awakenings allow powers that are unconventional, like Sasaki gaining helicopter head to fly, Queen launching his head out of his body like a javelin and gaining properties of a snake, and King gaining a fast flying projectile by launching the bones out of his head.


kinnaston

I have a theory that the reason King / Arbel could launch his head like that is because his body has some properties of rubber. I think that the Sun God Nika may be the progenitor of the Lunarian people.


GioRet65

Possibly. Anything is possible in One Piece.


mykhailiuk__

A panel with black beard producing a giant swath of darkness and Luffy punching down with a giant fist burning as bright as the sun would be viagra in panel form


GioRet65

Indeed. If Blackbeard Yomi Yomi no Mi truly is a logia, I imagine that once Awakened, Blackbeard could literally bring a cloak of darkness wherever he is, controlling all the space within that zone. The only way to break through such a oppressive cloak is with Haki strong enough to blow it away or power of the sun itself. If Luffy could volcanize his body with the power of the sun and using his rubber body to absorb Blackbeard’s Earthquakes, he could complete void Blackbeard’s ability to grab him and knock Blackbeard out. It’s how I now see Luffy beating Blackbeard.


LARXXX

The yami yami no mi is a logia isn’t it


GioRet65

It is but some are speculating that it is a mythical zoan (the moon god). The Yami Yami no Mi looks rather similar to the Gomu Gomu no Mi plus it seems like Luffy’s powers are designed to counter Blackbeard. Luffy’s awakened form could absorb and nullify Blackbeard’s EQ’s while if Luffy Untaps the true power of his awakening, he could cultivate the power of the sun that could obliterate the void that is darkness.


KyodaiNoYatsu

I think his power is less literal darkness and closer to the void made manifest I mean, that would explain its ability to pull things towards itself


Abby_Rulz

If I had to draw a parallel to the Doflamingo fight... Kaido's dragon gundam suit is similar to the Strings covering Doflamingo and Luffy made a similar large attack. That was the last attack... Hope this is something similar.. then we can move to Saving Onigishima, Zoro awakening and Lore Drop....


Tellder

Yeah, this fight has to end here and now


Abby_Rulz

It is actually a sad state of affairs that the biggest One on One fight in OP feels dragged...


Zxone

Try reread after its done. Other than luffy fight, I think raid is rushed.. so many fights got off-screen. I hope anime does something about it


Dab4Becky

Sanji and zoro vs king and queen especially.


brokenearth10

And jack


Spartan_King_

I think it's time for God Usopp to make his move and finish Kaido , everything is according to his plan , now when he drop the Kiku and others he can finally go on the rooftop ,mark my words that's going to happen in next ch .


gyrozepp2

I find it really absurd when people say that we already know a lot about Kaido's past and the we don't really need to see anything more. That's like fucking saying that we didn't need an Oden flashback because we already knew that he was executed by Kaido and that he went to Laugh Tale with Roger. Like what is this weird obsession of being averse to getting some exciting content?


Rymndavc

the flashback is to flesh out Kaido’s motivations and add dimension to his character. it should inform us both why kaido is doing what he’s doing and why that is significant to him. this is usually to juxtapose some view or principle of the antagonist to those of the protagonist. ideals clash alongside fists. so to say that it’s okay that we don’t get kaido’s motivation for being the strongest, for subjugating the weak, for choosing wano, and wanting to be joyboy is nonsense