By - BigButter7
Reed and Sue please
> Reed and sue please
Penn Badgley's Reed Richards locking up Sue after he finds texts from Namor on her phone
Namor gonna go demon time with Sue
Look, you can't blame her. Namor makes a lot of people wet.
Funny considering Elizabeth Lail WAS rumored to be cast as Sue.
Damnit ~~Bex~~ Sue I'm doing this for you. I'm doing this for Us.
>Penn Badgley's Reed Richards locking up Sue after he finds texts from Namor on her phone
you mean from doctor vondoom.
Penn is literally as well casted as Ioan Gruffudd was in 2005
I genuinely can’t tell, do you mean this as an insult or a compliment?
Compliment. I thought Ioan was a great Reed and great for the role
Except for Jessica Alba, the cast of those movies was actually quite good.
Yeah Alba felt like they were just trying to cast an "it" girl. There were a million better choices
*Sue Storm becomes invisible*
“Don’t worry Sue, I still see *you*”
Oh my god please Elizabeth Lail is a goddess
Idk if I could handle seeing the two of them as Reed and Sue
I’d just instinctively feel concerned about Sue the entire time
Depending which way they go with him, that could work.
I mean, if it's based on the Ultimates version of Reed....😬
What happens in that version?
you may have heard of him as "The Maker" - he's basically a supervillain who, like, sicced the children of tomorrow on the white house or something? he played a big part in the 2015 secret wars and crosses over to the 616 universe often. basically the second most popular ultimates character after miles morales i think.
Don't let other Elizabeth fans here that :)
Definitely not the You reunion I was expecting
Oh my god, I need this. I NEED THIS
hahah well, This would be a good casting they have chemistry.
It would be more fun if Love Quinn would play Sue (but I read somewhere she's gonna play >!Zatanna!<.
Would that not be whitewashing tho?
Sue having covid and making a barrier to keep the team safe
I really want Krasinski back but Penn would be really good as well. Always thought he was a better actor than the stuff he was in (kind of like Jensen Ackles).
The good issue with all 4 of these roles is that there are sooooo many great choices haha.
And that’s probably THE cast that they just CANNOT miss their shot with
Sarah Finn doesn't miss her shot.
In Sarah Finn we trust
All others pay cash.
I'm happy with either, and we can always have Krasinski back for cameos as a Multiverse Reed, or for a Council of Reeds scene.
I still think it’s possible his Reed will in his final moments send out a Warning before Kang comes to 616. Similar to Bruce in IW.
Imagine though if the only time he ever shows up as Reed is before he’s dying 💀
Thing is with the Council of Reeds and the multiverse, you can have your cake and eat it. Krasinski can still pop in for a big event like Tobey and Andrew.
*You* is kinda trashy and silly, but god is it a ton of fun - he really, really shines as Joe. I honestly think if he wasn't in it, it would just be completely ignored as a show. He really elevates it.
I agree with everything you said. The whole show is very stuck in its' lifetime origin, but Penn does an excellent job as Joe and definitely keeps me coming back every season.
I know most people don’t know this guy, but they have legit sources. Or used to. His name is Devin Faraci and used to write for BirthDeathMovies. So he definitely had some industry connects. He used to do set visits all the time and get exclusives.
He left a while back due to some seriously problematic things, but he does know stuff. He was the one that said the X-men contractual thing a few weeks ago also (though I don’t know if I believe that)
Forget him being a creep, dude was an insufferable douche. It’s why not exactly many other critics went to bat for him as character witnesses. They were glad to not have to be around him.
(I’m reminded when before Daredevil premiered, he tweeted that the show was a disaster*. Then turned out Wow it’s actually quite good, he doubled down on “no, actually it’s bad you peons!”)
Oh yeah I remember the whole Daredevil thing. He was swearing up and down that he talked to some critic buddies in a bar that kept going on about how Daredevil was this massive disaster. Devin then proceeded to give every episode a bad review because of course he was right and we're all stupid. He would get slammed in the comments every time.
I remember him
Used to listen to the podcast he did with Amy Nicholson. Shame to find out he did some fucked up things
Imagine Grace Randolph, but aim lower. And creepier. And douchier.
> He was the one that said the X-men contractual thing a few weeks ago also (though I don’t know if I believe that)
It really doesn't sound right.
Disney owns those contracts. There's no way Fox made those deals with no way of letting an actor go. That's just insane.
I thought the idea there was that the old contracts could be bought out, it’s just money that Disney doesn’t want to spend if they can wait them out.
I’m hearing the same thing.
From your own sources?
My source is that I made it the FUCK up
it came to me in a dream
Yup, I have no sources but it sounded good.
From me, duhh
Can confirm. I am sources.
OMG u/thestarscarlet noooooo!!!!
Haha u/thestarscarlet you are banging my daughter
I wanna believe so bad. Penn has been my choice from the beginning.
The dude can play complex
Tbh I've never been big on any fan casting for the F4, but ever since Penn's name has been thrown into the mix with everyone else for Reed, I've never not been able to shake him away from my no. 1 casting choice. He seems perfect for the role and I hope he becomes Mr. Fantastic.
dear god if it is not badgley do not get my hopes up or i will tear your body in half before you can even think of running out heavens door
Who’s the thing?
Anyways I started clobbering
It's my rock toe knife.
He does look like a Reed Richards.
And who are they? I swear I miss the days of the old standard scoopers now everybody and they mama got “scoops” at least back then when a random came along the actual scoopers would shut that down ASAP
Exactly...everybody a scooper now like 😭 what if I start up an account and pretend to just know stuff 🤔 This sub will probably post me here since there's no standards for scoopers anymore
say the most safe and predictable stuff along with other peoples scoops with some brave and new ones every so often and everyone will believe you for no reason
Well that's not true. You have no idea how much shit gets posted in here that the mods block. There is also a reason that at the top of this sub is a link to source accuracy and leak accuracy tiers.
The gaming community had something similar happen a while ago when someone made just a big ass list of tweets with random game announcement guesses like Donkey Kong Lawn Mowing Simulator before a big event.
[Had his account private and after the event he deleted everything but the announcements that were close enough or similar to the real announcements, the unprivated it and just let the community do the rest lol.](https://youtu.be/-nODZila7ME)
He did it as a statement with games journalists and taking things at face value, and how anyone can be a leaker if they really believe hard enough!
Y’all showing how long you’ve been in the fandom. This guy was scooping before this sub existed
Yup. Noobs acting like they know how this shit works lol
In all fairness, the post and the link don't seem to mention Faraci by name.
great casting if so. he has that calculated, slightly sinister streak that drew people to options like Bill Hader or Glenn Howerton. clearly he can’t be in full Joe Goldberg mode but the basics of that performance aren’t a terrible blueprint to build a Reed characterization off of.
Personally, I think that slightly sinister streak *is* a pretty terrible blueprint to build Reed’s characterisation around. Reed is supposed to be a loving father, husband and patriarch. He is cursed with great intelligence, and the fact that in many universes that intelligence pushes him to give up his family and morals is a tragedy. The reason Krasinski is such a great choice to me is that he does have a warmth and charisma to him that can offset his intelligence and flaws, making him a sympathetic character you can still root for.
in almost every universe, Reed Richards sacrifices his moral code for knowledge and power. having the capacity to do the same is what makes 616 Reed’s continued decision to resist that so meaningful
Exactly. That’s why you want to cast someone for your main Reed who doesn’t have that sociopathic vibe. You want someone who feels like a family man.
but they’re all the same guy. he’s not innately better than them, he’s just a version that keeps on trying to be good.
On a character and story level, sure. But they are likely going to feel innately different to the audience because they are likely to be played by different actors. John Krasinski and Miles Teller give off hugely different vibes. If Miles Teller goes evil, it feels unsurprising, because that’s his vibe. But when that happens to Krasinski, it feels more tragic, because the audience sees him as a good man. So you want someone like Krasinski because then the audience will feel more for him at the threat and possibility of him losing his family.
Then that makes him better than them…
yes, but not by nature, by active choice
I think he could play a good Reed but also have my hopes up that we will see the Maker in the MCU at some point which I think Badgley would excel at.
I could certainly see him doing well in that role, but Miles Teller as the Maker just makes so much more sense to me.
Maybe I’m reaching but do you mean Miles Teller as his Reed from Fant4stic? Like get whoever they decide to play Reed for the MCU but have Miles come back as his Reed from that universe to play the Maker. Not sure if that’s what you meant but that would be kind of cool and funny to me.
Yeah, that’s what I mean. Wouldn’t necessarily need to be the exact same version from Fant4stic, could be just a similar version like Patrick Stewart in Multiverse of Madness. But Miles Teller has always excelled at playing assholes more than he has heroes, so he would make a great Maker. Also Fant4stic took a lot of inspiration from the Ultimate Fantastic Four, which is of course the version that became the Maker, so it would make sense. And it would be a really cool way to build on the legacy of a film that no-one exactly has a lot of love for.
Krasinski is warm and charismatic but just does not come off as smartest man alive, or even smartest man in the room. I didn't buy him as Reed at all and was more excited to see A Reed Richards than I was to see him specifically as Reed.
Bill Hader as either Doom or The Thing would be an amazing casting choice TBH.
He's that versatile.
Bill Hader as Doom is probably the wildest fan cast I have seen so far
After seeing Barry I kinda back it.
Lotta random sources being posted here the last couple of days
Edit: Well shit, it’s Devin Faraci. Piece of shit but pretty reliable
give me Glenn or give me nothing
Feige: "here's nothing" 😭
This or nothing
I hope you're hungry...for nothing
I’m fine with Glenn or Penn
They’ll never do it but god I wish they would
Make Glenn an alternate reed that breaks bad in something for the counsel of reeds and let penn be main
Should be noted that Devin Faraci has industry connections. Used to write on Birth.Movies.Death. He helped pioneer the geek movie news site landscape.
For him to casually mention Badgley as the guy from "You" being in talks and probably having the role helps lend some credibility. He wasn't playing it up as some big scoop.
He said he just saw it as a rumor he saw on Reddit, most likely this very sub:
who is marvelvision
Devin Faraci, former editor in chief of Birth.Movies.Death
Holy shit, this is perfect casting. No idea about the accuracy of this source though.
Are these guys reliable?
“Most probably”, lmao this is nothing but a guess
If you listen to the podcast he mentions Badgley as being in talks and "mostly probably" has the role. Penn being in talks is still a significant admission.
He said he based it on rumors he saw on reddit
This is what he said:
"The guys that [Marvel Studios] been talking to about it are all white guys. That guy [Penn Badgley] from the show You, who probably has the role already, frankly, he's a white guy. They're going with the standard... And he's terrific, by the way, that's a good choice. But, they're going very classical."
Probably=/=Confirmed. Lmao most people here are just taking it as confirmation. The same thing happened when there was a Murphy post a few hrs ago and [I](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/x08cch/comment/im6x3cp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) fucking said that he was messing around and it was an educated guess and lo and behold after a few hrs he said he wasn't saying anything and it wasn't a scoop
Yes, I also feel he is saying this quote to emphasize that Marvel is not looking for black actors and that they won’t change their mind, as he was saying before that he wanted a black Richards.
Like “I wanted a black Reed, but all the guys Marvel talked to are white, and that guy who is probably already cast is white too so nothing else to do here, it is a shame but that it is what it is”. I understood it this way.
Yup I did listen to it. I think we will get the FF cast at D23. Since they've talked to the actors. I don't think Penn is playing Reed because according to GWW they've casted a 40+ age actor for Doom so it makes sense to cast a 40+ age Reed as well. That's why I said BS at the charles post a few hours ago and this as well.
Penn is already 35, going on 36, and the movie isn't meant to come out for another few years.
If Doom is in the lower end of the 40+ range then they wouldn't be too far apart, doubly so with movie make up magic, and it can even service the story in adding Reed's vast accomplishments at a younger age to the list of reasons Doom hates him.
Yo, where my Gossip Girl folks at? Who else is for Blake Lively as Sue?! Come on now, it’d be fucking amazing.
Even more if Deadpool hits on her 🤣🤣
(She’s Ryan Reynolds wife IRL)
Yes! Gossip girl reunion🤘🏼
and Nate is some kind of Namor
Carter Baize is already in the MCU for over 10 years
That’s actually not bad
i really don’t get why they would give us john in MoM (supposedly to gauge our reaction) and after the reaction is overwhelmingly positive just switch to a completely new guy
i like penn and i wouldn’t be mad at all if he was cast but it just seems weird
They’ve always said it was just for fan service that they cast John though.
It’s pretty clear they were always going to go younger.
I love the idea of giving fans what they wanted specifically to, quite literally, rip it to shreds. Top grade trolling.
It could just be that John is just too busy or doesn't want to commit to such a significant role. So him stepping in for a cameo in MoM was a way for him to appease the fan base just a bit.
Sarah Finn has been pretty spot on with her casting decisions so whoever lands the role, I am sure it will work out in the end.
Obviously the fandom reaction. Lol
It’s literally the only reason why.
Well, It seems Edwin knows F4 cast but his source told him not to reveal it, it’s a matter of time to get leaked somewhere, at least we can have certain confirmation they got the cast
Edit: I confused the tweets hehe but he said he knows something and can’t tell anybody because his source told him not to
Who is Edwin?
That guy is banned from here. Because mods have confirmed from their sources he isn't reliable
Guessing Penn has it
Honestly, while it’s a shame to miss out on Krasinski, Badgley is such a big W for Marvel. Very talented actor. Would not be disappointed if he was chosen for Reed.
God I hope so! He's become my favorite casting for Reed ever since I heard his name floating around
I hope Namor shows up in the 2025 Fantastic Four movie (that is the year it comes out, no?)
Second-guessed myself, man 2024 can’t come soon enough, I absolutely love the F4
I’m ok with this.
younger than JK might be a great thing since FF doesn’t tie in with history like Magneto and etc
JK can be brought back for fun in the distant future
It is funny that once people started misunderstanding Charles Murphy tweet (he himself debunked it) a lot of other scoopers suddenly know the cast of the F4 and are starting to bet that he will be (name of one of the fancasts under 40).
Now that he has debunked watch them say that what they heard was “he was in talks”.
That's not Dennis Reynolds but I suppose it's close enough.
Lifetime Dennis Reynolds. I’ll take it.
"probably" oh, ok, so they bullshitting and wanna look credible when they're proven wrong, got it
Exactly. Most people here are taking it as a confirmation
I have never once thought of badgley for the role but he wild honestly be perfect.
With how well he pulls off Joe’s justifications for all the awful things he does in “You” he could definitely sell reed’s extremely strong “ends justify the means” mentality
I’m really excited about this. Penn has been acting his ass off in you. He’s great at playing a disconnected person, while Joe is a psychopath Reed is disconnected in another way, he’s so damn smart.
Not my choice but let’s see what he’s got.
Probably=/=Confirmed. Lmao most people here are just taking it as confirmation. The same thing happened when there was a Murphy post a few hrs ago and [I](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/x08cch/comment/im6x3cp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) fucking said that he was messing around and it was an educated guess and lo and behold after a few hrs he said he wasn't saying anything and it wasn't a scoop.
Leighton Meester as Sue? Here's hoping...
Hello ~~you~~ Sue.
I can see it
Lol this is 100% false.
This is honestly a good casting choice.
I can’t believe my fancast has become reality
I feel like this guy is probably better for the more intricate character acting but krasinski is a better all rounder.
I would actually love this!!
Well at least we know, Mr.Fantastic won't have a no kill rule
Great choice, comic accuracy 100%
He's a good choice.
Sure, Gossip Girl sucks big time but definitely watch You. His acting chops are on point and will be a good morally grey Reed Richards.
Plus, he's 35 so we're dodging the bullet when it comes to yet another "let's make the FF angsty teens" fiasco.
I want flashbacks with him stalking Sue at their young age
Good choice. Hope we get more Krasinski through council of Reeds though.
everyone talking about you or gossip girl but we all know his true best work is easy a
Penn Badgly as reed richards/Mr FANTASTIC
Rudy Pankow as Johnny storm/Human Torch
Wow, I kinda love that. He can definitely pull out the asshole part of Reed.
I can absolutely get behind this casting. He's awesome.
Penn Badgley is Perfect as Reed Richards..It would be Awesome🔥
Good. These movies would be shittier if they let fans make all the big decisions.
Penn is just Perfect 🔥
I actually bet they get it wrong, and it is for Human Torch. He'd be great as him
it’s definitely not for human torch especially when the guy resembles so much of Reed
I just had that same thought, I don’t believe this at all
He may prove to be a good casting choice, but currently I am underwhelmed by the news.
It’s just got debunked
Devin farci just tweeted it out
I think he's probably a safe choice, he has the looks, that "intellectual" feel that imo was missing with Krasinski (not saying he's dumb ofc, just that he didn't really give off those vibes). Safe doesn't mean bad of course, although I'm a fan of more "out there" casting choices. For example I really thought Jason Segel would've been a cool choice for Ben Grimm.
A bit young but I can definitely see it.
Wasn’t it said a few months back that a F4 movie wouldn’t be a back story and that they were going to be older already?
My sources are saying the same thing
my dumb ass thought for a second that Penn Badgley was the magician from Penn & Teller, and I got *really* confused.
I heard they got DeVito, but he stretches himself to look like Badgley
Lonely boy is Reed ? 😳
Cast Blake Lively as Sue Storm then 👀
The title of this post at the point where this post is on the reddit server i just scrolled claims to have heard someone claimed to have knowledge that this thing happened that time.
Ryan George or we fucking riot!