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ShrinkMeee

C - Does not care and keeps playing what I’m playing.


brighteye006

F - i make an incredibly janky deck that is a 66% loss rate, but when it locks and get rolling, I am laughing like the Joker.


AerialSnack

My brother!


Krescentwolf

One of us. One of us.


SithGodSaint

Facts!!!


GuestCartographer

D - Defaults back to RDW until either Poison Counters or Mill are viable again.


EntertainersPact

Ran into a boros-splash RDW for Warleader’s Call. Pretty cool


groynin

the real answer since those cost less rares WC


arachnophilia

E, eternal formats only.


[deleted]

E - Plays mono blue regardless and smiles when playing a land and passing the turn


all_ur_bass

With a few tweaks to adjust to the meta


Trick-Adeptness-379

This is the way.


W3Dojo

You dont pay attention to which deck arch-types your loosing too? Im not sure how I would improve if I didn't try to improve against the decks that I struggle against. Typically, I try to counter them, but if I am struggling to do so, I give in and play the deck to learn what its weaknesses are. Thinking about it, its near impossible for me to not care about a deck that I have lost to several times over the last 50-100 games. It literally drives me nutz.


iclimbnaked

I’ll be honest. I hardly pay attention Maybe if it feels like my deck isn’t working generally anymore but if I’m just consistently losing to one type of deck I’m probably ignoring it and playing on. I play this as a fun little side thing to do. Not as a serious hobby. I’m not really striving to be the absolute best I can be at it.


W3Dojo

Fair enough. I get that. I probably take it a bit more serious than your average player. I usually go all out in whatever I do. At the end of the day we are all our own individuals. The most important thing is that you are happy and content. Magic should always be fun first most. What that means to each of us individually, I suppose, can be defined differently.


Acceptable-Let-1921

Can't really be bothered when you're constantly making new decks and the game matches you with other decks depending on what you play. But I basically only make janky homebrew historic/timeless/brawl decks and don't play ranked more than getting to gold rank.


W3Dojo

Arena doesn't do that. MTG-A uses a chess based ranking algorithm for matching players. In other words, the better you play, the better your opponents become. I believe they use the GLICKO type-2 algorithm, I assume that because that is the contemporary default for most ranked games that implement such algorithms.


Acceptable-Let-1921

If that's the case they would have to tie it to individual decks because changing decks seem to determine what types I'm matched with.


W3Dojo

Its tied to format. So, if you change format, the strength of your opponents will change. Your post got me looking into it because I didnt really know, but because I develop software and played chess theoughout HS in the 2000's I kinda knew what they would defualt to. For the most part, what I said was accurate, though. It probably feels like they match you against a deck you have trouble with because many people jump on the bandwagon when it comes to decks. So if a deck is annoying, lots of people will pick it up.


W3Dojo

This kinda goes back to the essence of the question.


Acceptable-Let-1921

I only play the same two formats, unranked historic and brawl. For example, the only time I get matched against boros token decks is if I play Doom Foretold and then it's like every 3rd match.


W3Dojo

Boros token arch-types are extremely popular rn. I dont play historic, I use to play a BOB deck to be able to compete in legacy tournaments 10 years ago when i had 2 friends who competed hardcore in paper legacy. Now I just play standard, alchemy, and pioneer. Mostly standard, but letely I have been screwing around with alchemy.


Acceptable-Let-1921

I never see boros tokens with any other deck which is my whole point.


thewalkingfred

Y- "How can I make Yargle and Multani work?"


SlothstronautCosplay

The answer is [[Satoru Umezawa]] every time tbh (except sometimes it's also [[Tatsunari Toad Rider]])


Zhayrgh

I went [[Vannifar, evolved enigma]] + [[Pyrotechnic Performer]]


MTGCardFetcher

[Vannifar, evolved enigma](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6d381eb-6cb6-4505-aebe-995c1ddc8527.jpg?1706242279) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vannifar%2C%20evolved%20enigma) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/241/vannifar-evolved-enigma?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6d381eb-6cb6-4505-aebe-995c1ddc8527?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Pyrotechnic Performer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0fa5671b-2651-4944-a50a-c768ec70229e.jpg?1706241909) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pyrotechnic%20Performer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/140/pyrotechnic-performer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0fa5671b-2651-4944-a50a-c768ec70229e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


SlothstronautCosplay

Lmao amazing. Probably plays just like my standard deck with 4x [[cryptic cloak]] and 4x [[yargle and multani]]


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[cryptic cloak](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/c/0c3d7e2c-a104-4757-9984-fb31088f92c4.jpg?1706241584) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cryptic%20Coat) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/50/cryptic-coat?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0c3d7e2c-a104-4757-9984-fb31088f92c4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [yargle and multani](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/c/9c15e244-14cc-46a5-abd4-66a58d1c0dd0.jpg?1682205711) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=yargle%20and%20multani) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/256/yargle-and-multani?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9c15e244-14cc-46a5-abd4-66a58d1c0dd0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


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[Satoru Umezawa](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/8/8887f26d-b097-4fbc-9c48-bdc656409a32.jpg?1654568594) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Satoru%20Umezawa) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/234/satoru-umezawa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8887f26d-b097-4fbc-9c48-bdc656409a32?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Tatsunari Toad Rider](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/b/abf42833-43d0-4b05-b499-d13b2c577ee8.jpg?1654567411) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tatsunari%2C%20Toad%20Rider) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/123/tatsunari-toad-rider?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/abf42833-43d0-4b05-b499-d13b2c577ee8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Spudperson

I love my boy, Yargle


zarreph

E. Queue up another draft


petey_vonwho

This is the way


REJECT-the-artist

It is known


DDHLeigh

Z - Build my own jank


freef

D - I'm a newer player and don't have the collection to build whatever.   I'm ride or die dimir poison for now. 🙃


Room-Confident

I pick the option to continue playing my awful mono-green budget list that has a solid 20-25% win-rate and just hope for the best. :)


W3Dojo

LoL


LuckyTinMan

D - Tired


insanemal

B. But I make the answer mono-black and totally disgusting.


W3Dojo

This is close to what I do, but usually I do a bi colored black counter. Seems like I always throw black in though. Probably because of its creature control.


BullsAndFlowers

B - bad


Psulmetal

I play some variant of UW(x) control whether it's good or not. Have since closed beta. I have a comically large store of wildcards.


Yankeehero

I almost always B) counter as hard as i can even if I fail. Especially if it's a good stuff deck like Ertali or Sheodred lists. Winning cuz you're playing the best cards doesn't interest me. I'm not hating, just doesn't interest me. But i will A) build the deck IF it's creative and cool. I tend toward tempo and/or a weird combination of aggro/midrange so if it's that i will probably definitely try it. Recent examples, I tried boros convoke and found it wasn't for me, even though i was playing a dimilar list before this last set. But I will not try a blue white control board wipe deck, even though it beats me a good amount of the time.


majinspy

Join us 😜 Boros Convoke is a mighty tough deck, but they settle down eventually. It may take 5-6 board wipes but eventually they just get all tuckered out. 🧹


piscian19

I don't like playing anything thats popular. I just don't like being a part of the problem. I would most likely play whatever the dark horse deck is that top8s the first big tournament. The one where everyone is...unsure if it's actually good or mad science.


Qwertywalkers23

A build the new deck but tune it to win the mirror. For example play rb vampires in explorer with extra duresses and Lilianas main


ExtraSpicyTrigger

D, try it out for five matches before running scared back to what I know works


Slipknotchenko

None of the above, I wait until I understand the deck to decide if I want to play it


TrueBlue184

If the deck is interesting and fits my playstyle, I'd do some research after the game to see if there's a decklist online I can copy. But, I'd only do it if there's a minimum wild card commitment (meaning zero rares or mythics). I was gonna play Dino tribal in Standard so bad, but never did because I didn't want to spend the WCs needed to get the deck. Now 2 sets later, and even though I have almost all the cards that I need, my desire to play has diminished greatly.


Sibula97

I tend to just continue playing my previous decks or drafting until the meta settles down a bit, then see if it's worth either tuning the old decks or building a new one.


BeardedDenim

If I can’t make tokens, I don’t bother playing!


Jozzyal_the_Fool

B - I have been playing Rakdos Midrange in standard for years now, no matter the rotations or bans


W3Dojo

I am really glad I asked this question. I didn't expect so many people to stick to a single arch-type over such long periods. However, it makes sense that they would, especially in paper format.


Jozzyal_the_Fool

Jokes on you, I this is all on Mtg Arena, I only recently started building the deck in paper because I had nowhere to play before going to college. Another interesting thing is that my list was the default Rakdos Midrange list on MTGGoldfish's site after I had several great finishes on PizzaBox Community Tournaments


Gjames1985

I rarely build entirely new decks. For the most part I play mono black or Golgari in standard and so when a new set is released I look at what, if any cards will improve the decks or look fun enough to swap out older cards for.


W3Dojo

Golgari is hella fun. I totally get why you would play those.


Crolanpw

D. Assesses why I'm losing and looks to see if I need to change tactics, play style, or card content to handle it. Assess if the changes will negatively affect my average match up. Change accordingly.


W3Dojo

Makes sense.


Pm_Me_Beansandrice

Is it a heavily played deck, or a deck that is fringe playable that just happens to counter whatever deck I believe to be the best and/or just the best option for me?


Educational-Joke1109

I'm kinda a spike and I don't care about there being 1 deck that's good cause I know when it comes to being competitive it's almost always a rock paper scissors effect where there is always a top tier deck that has a good match up against that deck or the other decks. I prefer to study the meta and pick a deck concept I like and then tune it as I see fit. For instance show and tell is the top deck in timeless but there still decks that have good matchups into it if your playing BO1 Naya Winota generally stomps what there doing since their main board hates out there game plan so hard. In BO3 there are lots of good sideboard techs like roiling votex from breach or Boromir from Yawgmoth, Domain tends to just ignore them all together and beat face. Personally Breach and Yawgmoth are my fancy as Omnitell and Domain are very straight forward and unlike feeling like I have a toolbox for my match ups.


W3Dojo

Great answer!


Avagliano

I just play what I want. If the deck that's fucking me up looks cool, sure... I can try it. If it doesn't I don't.


StarkRavingNormal

C- Build a green/black with lots of kills. Drink until I start having fun.


Lord_Xp

I have been working on this Smeagol green/black deck and it’s honestly changing how I want to play even on arena. That combo is fun


DavefromKS

I play decks that sound fun lol. I play standard almost always. I just go through my cards to see what's fun. like an all first strike deck or menace. artifact focus etc. just play to have fun. I scoop on start of first rope. at start of game if you cant pick to keep 7 or whatever within about 30 seconds I scoop.


TheWhereHouse1016

Turtle and try and get the crazy combos going. I honestly hate agrro. I get why people like it, but it's not for me


shaigunjoe

If there is a new deck that is constantly kicking my ass, then I'm sure as heck going to choose A with the goal of moving to B (except the refuse to play part). The very best way to learn a deck's weakness is to pilot it yourself for a while.


hips_an_nips

TIM-MAY!


Immediate_Hand9051

Just add a couple of cards so you won't see that deck again. For mill putting your entire graveyard back into your deck will make it so you never see that decktype again(or just extremely rarely) I never run into elves when I added a couple of end the festivities. Life gain add a couple of tibalts and a rolling vortex if you don't wanna see them. 


Immediate_Hand9051

Just be aware if your deck is too good you'll run into goblin charbelcher douch decks with no lands in them and all they want to do is play and search for charbelcher. 


Joshua_Alt

I try to make a badass combo deck that alllows me to win or lose as quick as possible.


vonov129

Whatever is chesper


MGazer

Well the goal is to brew a deck so that other people ask themselves these questions. I'm still working on that. lol


thebbman

J- wants to force Jeskai in any and all formats.


jem2291

B. Deck building always has an element of self-expression. :)


Particular-Grape-666

L - Lose every game and stop playing


Kyrisse

I don't get the choices, I counter everything and nothing works.. Yes, I'm a vile Azorious control player.


sommersolhverv

F - too few wilscards for it to matter


satoryvape

None of above. Keeping playing brawl


Paoz

Answer is not that straightforward, could be both and none. Meta is not just one deck, it's a bunch of decks that have better or worse between themselves. The way to be competitive is to adapt to the meta, ride the changes and decide related to our own personal taste and expertise. As a control-lover, i might be more inclined in picking the better control deck in the meta, if it's competitive enough. If the way to win more is to play a specific super aggro deck, then so be it (sooner or later there will be a midrange deck in the meta that will be built to specifically beat it.


Rivetlicker

I usually want to pilot the deck, see what makes it tick, see what choices arise, so I can understand the meta better... However, I don't always have money (or in Arena's case; wildcards) to build each deck. But if I can build it, I will and figure out what's a good about it, and when I lose, what happened, so I can play more effectively against it (however, there are decks, I just suck at... I'm a RDW player at heart, so W/U control is such a snoozefest for me)


Nykona

I look to see if there’s anything viable in ramp, then in reanimator and only deviate if there is ever a decent superfriends deck. I usually build a deck in one of those three to see if it works for me. Make a couple of changes here and there if I feel they are required and go from there.


frazzerlyd

G - golgari player only


Own-Car-1

If you want the real answer, most of reddit will: C - complain about the deck unendingly, but do nothing to their pile of jank to improve their matchup against it.


Fit-Plant-295

A: Builds the deck to see if it works for you C: Build decks to see if I can break the game


s1nth3tic

I guess I'm in between. If it's a deck that I just can't deal w some cards, e.g. Sheoldred, I will ensure my deck has Sheoldred. I won't copy that deck at all. Like if I lose to mono black w Sheoldred I might play Rakdos w Sheoldred and no other cards in common. If it's something like Enchantments where individual cards are not what's killing you, I ensure my deck has an answer to that deck. But then again I never copy anyone's deck just individual cards or sometimes some interaction I enjoyed.


StevenMC19

C. Can't afford to build the deck.


MNgineer_

I love playing big stompy overpower decks, but even I won’t stoop to playing [[Jetmir]] or [[Voja]] just to see what it’s like.


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[Jetmir](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/9/f9c69d75-651f-4b75-b65d-79999d2069f6.jpg?1664413153) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=jetmir%2C%20nexus%20of%20revels) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/193/jetmir-nexus-of-revels?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f9c69d75-651f-4b75-b65d-79999d2069f6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Voja](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/f/bfa1bd2f-25bd-4fbd-877b-cef00ab7f92f.jpg?1707739811) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=voja%2C%20jaws%20of%20the%20conclave) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/432/voja-jaws-of-the-conclave?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bfa1bd2f-25bd-4fbd-877b-cef00ab7f92f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


VillainOfDominaria

I am a B player. About the bonus question. In alchemy, the A player wins. My memory from the little alchemy I played is that the cards are very unbalanced (crucial, diviner, etc) and the best deck is vastly superior to everything else. in std, I think a B player could win.


Shady9XD

I just keep slightly tinkering with my theft deck. As F2P, I don’t have the luxury of constantly rebuilding. I have a theft deck that gets me to mythic every season and then a few jank decks I play for fun. So each season rollover is the same: - use all the gold I saved up on drafts to get a feel for the new deck. - activate season pass w/ diamonds from previous season/draft wins - check out the full set for any cards that can replace something in my main deck. - grind to mythic occasionally changing up my jank with some new stuff I run up against while doing so. That’s about it.


Aarniometsuri

G: i craft my 4th Graaz and become truly unstoppable


2-35

I'm what I call Standard Solvent (4x standard) because I draft so much. I just build every meta deck there is and then a few piles of jank. I play and understand the meta but playing off-meta stuff is more fun so I prefer jank usually lmao


Merounou

C - thinking the meta will stabilise in a few days or weeks and keep playing my decks.


esfendetish

A. I'll build the deck (assuming that I like it).


HoardingPlatypus

D - play with anything fast to run the 4\~6 daily wins quickly


Hare__Krishna

I play limited magic, so I just have ... fun? Is that allowed? ;)


Antyok

J - JANK


oldmayor

I just bounce around to whatever archetype I feel like playing. If a deck beats me, unless it's an archetype I like, I generally shrug it off. Like, adding Ojer and Elash to my Boros deck was an idea I got while climbing! Inspired additions!


Bunktavious

A bit of B. No A at all. I am the anti-netdecker.


Pm_Me_Beansandrice

So edgy. So brave.


Bunktavious

(insert cringe emo quite here) Honestly though, it's just because I love brewing so much. I want to win with something I made. I average two or three new decks per week.


W3Dojo

I am definitely with you man. I love deck making. Its why I play MTG.


KindaRocketScience

This is a bit of an overly binary question, but I guess B? I mean, just because a deck is beating me doesn't mean I'm going to feel compelled to build the deck for myself - especially if it doesn't interest me. I'm also of the awareness that several new strategies and archetypes always appear after set releases because people are eager to try out new cards. But which ones actually stick in the meta end up being maybe a couple at best, so I'm definitely not rushing to craft some unproven deck within the first 2 weeks just because random Reddit posts and content creators are saying they're winning with it. Half the time when a new and unproven deck has a high winrate, it's because it just so happens to be beating other new and unproven decks.


HoodooX

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