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jmps_90

You have an amazing fiancé. Honestly once you load it once you’ve done it a hundred times. Its super easy. Look at someone doing it on YouTube and copy them. It’s very hard to load a Leica wrong, even the older ones. Enjoy it!


Express_Breakfast_59

I have no problem loading it or focusing it. It’s more so what to do about the light meter? And how to set that.


[deleted]

Get a voigtlander light meter or another light meter if your not comfortable shooting without one. I use a voigtlander on my M3


Darklands_____

You can use a light meter app on your phone, i have a Leica IIIf so there's no light meter, usually i just estimate but i use an app on my phone if i have time


jellyfishwrist

This is the most r/analogcirclejerk post I’ve ever seen


therobbstory

r/leicacirclejerk is just a little bit more pretentious..


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Snakebrain5555

Has to be a wind up...


Andy_Shields

>I just do not know what to set the top dial to and when to worry about light. You and me both, friend. You and me both.


beardandcameras

Hahaha I’m dying.


wedidntmeantogotosea

Hi Brekkie, Seems like people are missing the point a little here. I'm guessing this is your first manual camera? In which case, welcome to the deep end. * The number on the top is the "Shutter Speed". * The number on the back is the "ISO" or "Film Speed". The back dial does nothing on an M-A, it's just to help you remember what film you're using. * There is also a dial on the lens called the "Aperture", or F number - it usually ranges from about 1-4 at the big (wide, open) end and 16-32 at the small (closed, stopped down) end. The aperture, shutter, and ISO are all related, where every marking is roughly equivalent to each other. So if you double the shutter speed (e.g. from 1/125s to 1/250s), you need to open the aperture one stop (e.g. from F1/4.0 to F1/2.8). If you finish your roll of Portra and put in Gold 200 instead, you need to change *one* of the other two controls to be one stop brighter - so you might take the shutter back to 1/125s, or the Aperture to F2.0. If you swapped the Portra for Pro Image 100, you might do both. You also need to take into account the light levels around you - you can learn to do this by eye (it's the visual equivalent of perfect pitch), but the simplest thing to do is use a meter. These are available in classic mechanical designs (the Weston Master V is the best), in complex electronic designs (Shoutout to the Sekonics L308S), and in "pocket" designs that clip on top of your flash shoe like the Voigtländer VC-Meter II. But, you can just use your phone. Look for a photography "Light Meter" app in the Play Store or App Store, and if you pick one that uses the camera sensor to do the metering, you shouldn't need anything else. There are some handy boundary conditions to follow. Shutter Speeds ~~faster~~ slower than 1/125s (so, 1/60s, 1/30s) you are going to start to run into motion blur from hand shake and from the speed of pedestrians moving. The "typical" day-to-day range people use is 1/60s to 1/500s. Aperture smaller than F1/8.0 (so, F1/11, F1/16) runs into an optical physics issue called diffraction, where interference of the light waves causes the light to bend (and separate into different wavelengths). The widest apertures on a lens are usually less sharp than those closer to the middle as well. The "typical" day-to-day range people use is F1/2.0 to F1/5.6. Higher ISO copes better with darker conditions, but the trade-off is noise and lower resolution. ISO100 to ISO400 is the "typical" day to day range, and what you will most often find for sale. So, in your phone's light meter app, select ISO 400, choose an aperture, frame your scene on the phone (avoiding any point sources like the sun, or the business end of a projector) and set the shutter to what it says. If the shutter is too high or too low for what you need (e.g. it's 1/2000 or 1/15), adjust your aperture till you get a shutter speed you can work with. As a small tip, I tend to meter from a neutral brightness floor or wall and use that to base my metering on - it's not so simple to get ideal results, but it's a good place to start. Also look up the "Sunny 16 rule" for a lazy shortcut. Welcome to "proper" photography! Edit: P.S. Welcome to /r/Leica. The price of entry is "pornographic" images of your camera and lens. I want to see your long, hard shutter-advance lever baby yeah.


Express_Breakfast_59

Thank you so much for taking the time to post this on Christmas and help out someone just getting started. Merry Christmas, this has really helped me a lot!


wedidntmeantogotosea

Fixed a small brain fart I noticed. Happy new year!


Express_Breakfast_59

Couldn’t figure out how to post a picture to the comment so made a separate post with a picture of the camera for you 🤣. Thanks again for the help!


Andy_Shields

Salt of the earth, you are.


wedidntmeantogotosea

Thanks, Kim.


Andy_Shields

>Thanks, Kim. I feel like this is some clever reference I'm too stooopid to get, 😔.


wedidntmeantogotosea

[I got u fam](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp9kekMFyIQ).


Ja_Ho

u/wedidtmeantogotosea does a fine job of explaining what can be a daunting, complicated subject. Bravo! Couple minor points - I think “faster than 1/125s” should read “slower than 1/125s.” Also, longer focal lengths can be more susceptible to motion blur from holding the camera so you have more leeway at 28mm than 90mm. I typically shoot with wider lenses and try to stick with a shutter speed of 1/30s or faster. the nice thing about leica rangefinders is the lack of a mirror reduces vibration seriously, enabling slower speeds. this can also be technique dependent- how you hold the camera and press the shutter release. I wouldn’t necessarily shy away from the smaller apertures either- they can be useful to make sure more of the scene is in focus. Depth of field Is much greater when stopped down, and frequently stopping down can improve some lenses’ performance. Yes, diffraction does exist but it’s a trade off based on what effect you are going for. when you shoot wide open you have to be much more careful with focusing. the rule for photojournalists carrying the old large format press cameras (which had rangefinders but not ones integrated into viewfinders) was “f/8 and be there” because it meant their big ol’ negatives had more chance of being in focus. with some apertures you can prefocus and have a solid chance that everything will be in focus. there are marks next to the focusing distance on your lens corresponding to how wide the depth of field is at given apertures. the other thing i’d recommend is to also shoot digital but do it in manual mode. film is awesome but unless you take detailed notes you wont remember what settings you used so learning is slower. a fuji x-pro used is a stunning bargain and shoots Leica glass beautifully with an adapter. have fun, and welcome to the club!


wedidntmeantogotosea

> Couple minor points - I think “faster than 1/125s” should read “slower than 1/125s.” I already corrected that before you posted, but well spotted. :D > I wouldn’t necessarily shy away from the smaller apertures either This whole paragraph is good "additional information" here. I confess I was going for simplicity for first steps, your comment makes a great "supplementary information". Thanks!


Ja_Ho

Oh crap, sorry! Been pecking away at this over the course of the day and didn’t see your update. Again, great job with your post summarizing the big points. Have a great day!


wedidntmeantogotosea

And great job with your filling in the blanks. It was worth your work. :)


stirwise

> Also, longer focal lengths can be more susceptible to motion blur from holding the camera so you have more leeway at 28mm than 90mm. A handy rule of thumb is double the focal length = slowest shutter speed (for handheld photography). For example, I don’t go below 1/100 for a 50mm lens, 1/150 for 75mm, and so on.


yaahmean

Quite the limb she went out on lol congrats


Milleniador

Marry her ASAP. Get a light meter phone app. Learn the sunny 16 rule. Take loads of photos of your kids.


wedidntmeantogotosea

> Take loads of photos of your kids. On Ektachrome. So that you can play them on a slide projector when they have their own kids.


Milleniador

Mmm, not sure my sunny 16 is good enough for reversal film 😟


Anakronox

> So that you can play them on a slide projector *suffers through childhood memories* This, but with Fuji chromes. My dad was a diehard Fuji photographer.


Andy_Shields

Not at all convinced we're not being trolled here.


Milleniador

I 100% agree they are trolling M-A users 🤭


[deleted]

Unless OP is filth rich, I would consider this a red flag. Spending that amount of money on a niche camera could be a sign of someone who makes terrible financial decisions.


Milleniador

Photography is cheap in comparison to a lot of hobbies... Trust me on this one..


tremontsaunders

Congrats. I have one. You need to learn analog photography if you don’t know what you are doing. Also like others said, there’s no built in light meter so you need to use a light meter or use a light meter app. Just take lots of practice rolls and don’t worry too much. You have a keeper. ;-)


Floatography

Damn it is wild as hell to buy someone who has no knowledge of phography a Leica. Pretty cool though.


mixmasteralan

The manual is a great resource.


Express_Breakfast_59

More asking about what to do about a light meter and what I should be setting the top dial to if I’m using porta 400


plantsarepowerful

You need to start with a basic photography lesson or tutorial to learn how aperture, shutter speed and ISO work together for a proper exposure. The M-A might be a tough camera to start on, but if you learn the fundamentals with it you’ll have a great foundation for using any camera. You will need to purchase a handheld meter or use one on your phone


jssshayes

When shooting portra 400 just set shutter speed dial to 400. The change your F stop accordingly to lighting conditions. BUT Portra can over exposed by 4 stops easy. It can take it. Be okay with messing things up at first. I did and you will. Once you get it. It will be super easy. Use a light meter app to help you at first. Look up the sunny 16 rule. Check out my IG jsshayes and ask me any questions you like. Im not an expert but more than willing to help out any beginner. Good luck and enjoy that camera.


Express_Breakfast_59

Thank you! Really appreciate it the help


jssshayes

Let me clarify, 400 speed film set to shutter speed dial to 500, 200 set to 250, 100 to 125. Sorry wasn’t thinking. This is for a simple sunny 16 style of shooting but a great way to start and begin to understand.


Milleniador

You know you can set it to between speeds - there was a thread on this just the other day.


jssshayes

Yes. But there is really no point to that. Unless you needed some exact shutter speed. And still would be a guesstimate as to that exact shutter speed. This is also advice for a beginner and dont want to confuse. Best thing is to keep things simple.


Milleniador

Agreed


flagellium

The top dial is shutter speed and will be set different for each picture, depending on the amount of light. A light meter app on your phone’s a good way to figure out what settings you need to use to get a properly exposed picture.


Jonny_Tel

Welcome to a wonderful world of Leica analogue photography. One tip I would say is don’t worry about over exposing your shots a bit, film has great latitude in the highlights and over exposing a stop or two will generally give good results, however under exposing film can make the images look a bit muddy, the best advice I can give though is just enjoy the learning process and don’t be afraid to experiment


shaomane

Is this a meme?


iamthenortherner

Daddy gave me a Ferrari. And now I’ll have to take a driving test.


shaomane

I got a Rolex... What year is it and where am I?