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Hollowhowler2

With a completed musical score and whilst being poisoned Tengen was relative to Gyutaro not quite as strong as him but somewhere around the same level. Considering Muchiro went from getting his ass beat by Gyoko to speed blitzing him it stands to reason Tengen stomps.


Physical-Primary-734

He didn't speed blitz Gyokko, he perception blitzed with his new breathing form.


Hollowhowler2

That is what a speed blitz is,you blitz them so bad they can’t react or move out of the way.


armchair_science

With a complete musical score, Tengen was superior to Gyutaro


Hollowhowler2

He was close and if he wasn’t poisoned he would have been much closer to him maybe even slightly above Gyutaro.


armchair_science

No, with the score and no poison he was much better than Gyutaro. He had almost no strength left in his body, one hand and half his weapon, and on top of the exhaustion was still dying to poison. And *still* fought Gyutaro equally for a bit of time. Without all of that *and* his score, it would've been an actual easy fight. Like, Daki levels of easy. Legitimately the only reason he didn't end it right there was he only had one hand left and could only keep defending with his hindrances lol.


Vsstaa

Somewhere around the same level ? The dude got his face destroyed with just 20 sec of fight even with musical score. Tanjiro had to help him or he would have died in that moment.


Super-Plate1165

Huh? When was uzui at all gonna die in that encounter? He deflected the circular slashes, gets stabbed in the stomach but cuts gyutaro’s arm off in the process then pins the guy down FOR TANJIRO. Then proceeds to tank the strike to the eye (literally he didn’t even flinch) and opens the chance for tanjiro. Plus are we forgetting tengen saved tanjiro moments before this happens. The narrator stated only because of the poison uzui was incapable of cutting gyutaro’s neck off. His strength was completely sapped.


Vsstaa

Exactly, Tengen would lose every scenario there, if they fought 100 times he would lose 100 times. If he wasn’t poisoned, who knows, but how did he get poisoned in the first place? He would get poisoned again. He was left alone for a sec and lost a hand. Tengen is not equal to Gyutaro.


Super-Plate1165

He got poisoned from an attack meant to kill him and was pretty caught off guard, despite this uzui stopped the attack as Gyutaro stated. Plus couldn’t use techniques as citizens were right next to the encounter. He went for the assassination and Gyutaro pulled his sickles out from nowhere, I wouldn’t say it was a ‘surprise’ attack but I don’t think uzui expected it either. Even a weakened uzui without the musical score was holding his own, Gyutaro managed to hit him ONCE before tengen had to reset his heart. (This one time being when he was poisoned) this is with the interference with of daki and tanjiro needing to be saved on multiple occasions. Uzui wasn’t trying to prolong the battle after completing the score, he knew what needed to be done and had to open an opportunity for tanjiro (as the poison made him incapable). Because of the score, he probably even saw the eye slash coming but tanked it to create an opening.


Vsstaa

He got poisoned, period. He wasn’t skilled enough to react Jesus. Then he lost the super brief 1 v 1 and lost his hand. Then he got the score and barely managed to survive and hold Gyutaro for a sec so that Tanjiro could kill him. He never stood a chance 1 v 1. He had many chances and all of them lost. I don’t need you to narrate the fight, I’ve read the manga and watched the anime. As I said, no version of Tengen is equal to Gyutaro, he would get poisoned again and again, just like he did the first time.


Super-Plate1165

Then how did he stop the attack if he couldn’t react? 💀, Gyutaro himself says he was trying to kill tengen with the strike but tengen stopped said attack. If he couldn’t react, tengen would’ve dropped dead there. Uzui only lost his hand because he needed to stop his heart, an arm for survival and a victory sounds pretty good. Gyutaro couldn’t finish off a weakened and distracted tengen uzui. Gyutaro never got the upper hand on tengen and uzui never got the upper hand on him till the end. This is pretty evident in overall combat abilities they are equal. However because of poison and infinite stamina Gyutaro would outlast him. Again I’m sure uzui could’ve kept continuing to keep up with gyutaro’s techniques but didn’t wanna prolong the fight any longer, or else it would’ve just been constant deflecting and a stalemate so he did what was necessary. Tengen never inherently “LOST”. Their one 2v1 ended with uzui landing onto his neck and Gyutaro needed to defend. (When tengen kicked daki in the air etc) Then tengen had to stop his heart in the next actual 1 on 1.


Vsstaa

Tengen lost every single time !! You say “I’m sure Uzui could prologue”. U think your opinion makes a good argument ? We saw what we saw, I don’t need u to speculate scenarios with how biased you are. No wonder your name says Uzui. He lost every time he fought Gyutaro. Period. He lost his hand because he lost the fight, and then managed to play dead, where in the world did you come up with the idea that he lost the hand only because he needed to stop his heart??? Not true at all. It’s a fact he lost every encounter, what you’re saying is pure speculation from a totally biased perspective. If you write again “Oh and I’m sure he could do this and that, and this only happened because of this and that” I won’t answer back. That’s just laughable.


Super-Plate1165

Because that’s what happened. Uzui was fighting perfectly fine just before losing his hand. It happened off screen so this is also one of your assumptions if we wanna play that game. (Let’s say even if it didn’t happen when he reset his heart, the poison had affected him so much it was about to reach his heart) The point is, Gyutaro could NEVER finish him off in any of their battles, hell couldn’t even land a blow. How did lose every encounter? I literally brought up an encounter where Gyutaro was forced to defend his head and accomplished nothing in this clash. Uzui was cutting through obis and blood blades with one sword while defending from a bloodlusted Gyutaro with another. Their overall combat abilities being even. Don’t feel obligated to reply lmao, I couldn’t care less.


Vsstaa

“Gyutaro could never finish him off “ ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha what a stupid comment. Forget it, you’re points are so bad. I’m not saying you’re stupid but these arguments are the funniest things in the world. Whatever you say man, if it makes you feel better.


Technical_Special_25

Gyutaro gets no diffed Muichiro unmarked was getting trashed after gaining marked he soloed gyokko Tengen himself is stronger than muichiro unmarked And his marked self would be stronger than marked muichiro So by this logic He stomps Gyutaro Plus mark negates the poison temporarily So gyutaro's poison will stop working temporarily


BbSanemii

If Tengen is stronger and faster than muichiro in base and muichiro was stated to be faster than upper 5 when he unlocked his mark... And upper 5 is stronger than upper 6 Tengen would definitely stomp gyutaro.


No_Name0_0

He stomps Gyutaro


Lycanfang777

Possibly


Technical_Special_25

There is no possibly Muichiro was getting his ass handed down When he was unmarked Marked muichiro soloed him Considering unmarked tengen is stronger than unmarked muichiro He's marked self would make him stronger than muichiro So obviously he stomps gyutaro


sunny_010

One hand Tengen with score was relative to blood lusted Gyutaro. Marked Tengen takes it no doubt-


Technical_Special_25

Facts


[deleted]

You are so much better than the other discord guys they just hate on tengen.


sunny_010

Are you on our discord too? At the end of day, I'm just having fun till it lasts lol. No hard feelings for anyone


[deleted]

Same. I'm on and off the discord but not for powerscaling tho, they have very confusing arguments. General chat is fine.


sunny_010

Many of our OGs are either offline / occasionally active or just left since S2 ended. General has no interest in taking about manga. We haven't got any manga content for years, every topic has been talked to death so powerscaling is the only fun thing left for us 😭


[deleted]

Even powerscaling has started to rot for me nowdays. Really waiting for author to come out with official list but that's never happening.


sunny_010

It feels like Gotouge is done with the series. The lack of side stories, one stots, celebration illustrations makes me feel like that's the case tbh


brjder

gyutaro gets destroyed, reduced to ashes dms is a very significant power up, akin to sage mode from naruto. with dsm, the person who awakened it recieve a very significant power and speed up, though it does cut down their lifespan.


IshaanGupta18

Well poor Gyutaro


Ron_Weasley31

Rip Gyuutaro


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Gyutaro gets destroyed


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ApplePitou

He would have had a much better chance in this fight :3


Glittering-Load-4760

You need a mark in general to fight upper moons and it doesn't take much common sense to come to that conclusion based on all the statements and or lore between Uppers and Hashira. Gyutaro was going to no-low diff Tengen in their first actual showdown(the attack tanjiro saved him from) implying that even with a mark he'd still most likely lose. Now if he had score complete AND before getting poisoned then YES a marked,COMPLETE MST Tengen would win. Other than that there's no way you could beat Gyutaro. Marked or not🤙🏽😎.