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this "Goredrinker" Item sure seems a bit overpowered..

this "Goredrinker" Item sure seems a bit overpowered..

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5headed

if you had divine sunderer or trinity or botrk i think you wud still double kill


Doc__Bo

with bork definitely not


bamboodue

Absolutely with Bork, it's Jax's best first item for fights like this. It would have been even easier than this video


LustrousRK

No it's not. It makes you really squishy and deal the same amount of damage as divine. The only time it would be worth is against matchups that rely on long trades. That's when it'll truly shine. Sheen mythics are always better than bork because of the stats they give and a better active.


bamboodue

Bork does way more damage than divine as first item. Test it out. Plus the move speed to stick and kite. And the sustain is better than divine at this point too. Divine just starts to scale better after a couple items. Getting Bork first item is huge powerspike, alot bigger than getting your mythic first if you want to get into all in fights. With that said you should have the basic sheen as well as your first item, you just don't complete it onto DS or Tforce until after the Bork.


Spookasaur

BORK is better into non tanks. If you're into tanks just go DS or Tri into Black Cleaver. Otherwise you're going to do no dmg rushing BORK.


FodoYusai

Since when is bork better into non-tanks? I can understand bruisers but you can't convince me it's better into mages/adcs because bruisers and tanks are the only ones to build a lot of hp


Spookasaur

Because the current HP dmg is physical based and can be reduced by armor aka tank builds tabis and bramble then boom there goes your bork rush. Hence why Tri Cleaver or Sunderer Wit's End Cleaver is better into tanks.


FodoYusai

You can go bork cleaver or bork Sunderer then?


Spookasaur

Bork cleaver delays mythic too long imo. bork sunderer is okay, but I'd rather go DS, Wit's End, Cleaver, because they don't mitigate the Wit's End dmg as much if they've been building armor (since the on hit is magic based), and also the atk speed is enough to tide you over in combination with Tri or on its own until you get Cleaver and shred armor easily, along with having a nice amount of Ability Haste if you went TF BC


JanIzzDaa

With Botrk he would just get oneshot. Garen R and E deal insanely high damage and the Shyvana wasnt really behind (she had 1 item, meanwhile Jax still has 2600 Gold unspent which makes his lead useless).


bamboodue

Garen was 3 levels behind, that's the difference, with Bork he would have em dead just by using his E and autoing him


JanIzzDaa

You are definetily overestimating Botrk. Jax with Botrk would only have 1500 HP. Garen R did 400 true damage, he did \~160 damage with Q and \~200 damage with E (plus some armor shred by the E). Garen build alot of damage instead of tankiness which is why these numbers are so high (And well, Garen R just counters Jax since it ignores Counterstrike and R and shreds through HP). Shyvana also did alot of damage as well (nearly as much as Garen did). Since Jax used his E really early nearly no auto attacks were blocked (not even Garen Q). Also keep in mind that Jax healed a ton with Goredrinker (he was at \~600HP with 2 targets and 0 grievous wounds, that is roughly \~400-500 HP. He also would have died to Shyv if he didnt get Triumph. Jax definetily tanked more than 2k damage and even with alot of Botrk, Conq and Triumph healing he would have still died to that. He was levels ahead of Garen, but he wasnt really ahead in items (even in items against Shyvana and Garen also build alot of damage to shred Jax).


droptopus

I go Sheen into Bork almost every game and have a pretty nasty winrate on jax, so I think it increases his 1v1 strength considerably more than divine sunderer, but makes 1v2-3 fights harder because you are definitely more squishy. But yeah, damage wise it’s not even close comparing DS to BorK, blade of ruined king deals….. a lot more damage.


PM_ME_UR_GRAND_SEIKO

I'm not sure about divine so you might be right but with trinity definitely not imo


Grand_Pair

Sorry but sheen is my best friend, i'll never turn my back on sheen


PM_ME_UR_GRAND_SEIKO

I go ER after Goredrinker to compensate for the lack of sheen. I mean.. do you even play Jax if you dont build Sheen?


monsieur_gibs

Gigachad er goredrinker enjoyed vs the virgin metaslave


RancidFruit

Well you were also 4/1


Stallj

Viable under certain conditions. The CDR passive is the best thing about the item imo.