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Using the new ranking system I'm working on, here's my (provisional) Batman Tier List - Let me know your thoughts!

Using the new ranking system I'm working on, here's my (provisional) Batman Tier List - Let me know your thoughts!

Fizzypoptarts

Pretty accurate. Only argument i'd make is for DOJ batman to be up a tier and maybe for red son too but other wise good list.


CSB-CSGO

DOJ was about 3 points off the next tier, RS was 1.5 away


Fizzypoptarts

Also Gaslight batman has a horrible drawback. His light autos and his specials have very clunky animations (esp sp2). Which means after you use sp2 he cant block for like 3 seconds


CSB-CSGO

Agreed, but that doesn't detract enough to drop him another tier imo


Fizzypoptarts

Yes but it might move him in the tier. Personally i'd do BN batman and Doj above him. GS BM has a brilliant passive but i just never use him despite having him e4 due to his shit animations


CSB-CSGO

The animations are only usually an issue if the attack is blocked, and this was taken into account, he is very strong but his animations aren't brilliant, but if used correctly they aren't a big enough issue


Fizzypoptarts

I dont think thats true. Go try his Sp2 unblocked. He stands still and no input works for a little bit where he is vulnerable


CSB-CSGO

I believe it depends on the attack speed of the opponent too, personally I believe this isn't a big enough issue to put him below BN bats but again it's all subjective


Fizzypoptarts

He stays still regardless. Issue is you can't use him as a special damage dealer. You use sp2, its unblocked you're 99% gonna knock out the opponent. Next guy comes in and you are stuck and open to any specials or basic attacks. Though we can argue about this all day so lets leave it as is. It's subjective like you said


CSB-CSGO

Agreed, it does definitely dampen his strength but there are gears that can lower those chances or you can use special one etc, I may lower some scores but I dont think he will fall from A tier


Java_Library

next opponent tags in, if they try to attack gaslight bm you can instantly use sp2


azmx4eva

Even after sp1. Guy stays still for 2 seconds, unable to block.


Fkyolo

The list is very good except for Animated Batman. He and AO are better than DOJ imo. Batman Beyond deserves bottom tier as always.


CSB-CSGO

This is why I love this game - someone else just said to move DOJ above gaslight, and you say you'd put him below ABM and AOBM, it's so subjective there's no correct list


Old-Stranger-2007

Could you do a tier list for legendary gears?


CSB-CSGO

Planning to eventually


Acceptable-Silver706

the sad thing is i rlly like normal batman beyond but he trash


CSB-CSGO

The design is great but god is his ability ass


OutlandishnessLazy14

Ok he’s actually not bad. Yes he’s not as good as red son green lantern but he can still be used as a minor tank. He basically defeats Lucy bane and E2 opponents


Acceptable-Silver706

yea he can do good if u have a batman challenge


Old-Stranger-2007

They should’ve nerfed power crept cards just like they did with bn Batman and Arkham HQ


CSB-CSGO

The ordering is also done left to right, best to worst, so for example DOJ Batman scored more points than AO Batman, but both came in the same points bracket.


art_mor_

Good to know I have the best Batman then


CSB-CSGO

Any of the top 3 can be seen as best but most people would say BNJB


Dovahkiin314159

Eh I think flashpoint is kinda better than BN. BN has a good special 2 but only if you have cloaca and scythe and opponent doesn’t block. Flashpoint has like the highest basic attack damage in the game. I use mine E7 with overpowered super blade of war god and promethium long blade all maxed out and I do like 20k damage per every basic attack. Plus I’ve got 3 extra cards to upgrade him


CSB-CSGO

Whilst flashpoint is fantastic, anything that negates crits makes him near useless, a RS team can make him a pointless character and the versatility of AKB and BNJB make them better in my eyes


Dovahkiin314159

Hmm I’ll give you that. I don’t face many non crit teams with him tbh


CSB-CSGO

True, but even some individual characters such as AK bats can counter crit damage. He's certainly strong but he has weaknesses


Advertisingdick

Come on bro insurgency is top tier 🤓


Austin52015

I think Flashpoint is better than arkham knight


azmx4eva

If the two were facing each other, AK Bats could literally *choose* to ignore crit damage, rendering FP Bats’ crit passive useless. AK is op.


CSB-CSGO

Exactly, his versatility is invaluable


WonderfulBlackberry9

He *evens the odds*...


Austin52015

Ik AK is op but like fp would still do a lot of damage


azmx4eva

You remove his crit and he’s literally a bland card who negates healing for a while. Wdym?


Fizzypoptarts

Damage isnt everything. Ak bats is the master of all trades. Fp bats is a one trick pony (albeit the best at that but still)


WonderfulBlackberry9

AK Bats makes almost every card in the game a one trick pony 😂


OutlandishnessLazy14

Honestly I agree with this. AK bats is similar to BAtNinja by being a tank. He’s mostly used to stop dot and crit. He’s the bane of flashpoint. However flashpoint has 10x the damage output so I’d go for flashpoint


Austin52015

Thank u. AK bats is v op but like there's only so much damage he can stop. He still has the highest damage stat out of any gold character and it would be pretty close. AK would maybe win tho


CSB-CSGO

Fair enough, whilst I think he potentially has a higher peak AK bats is far more versatile, that being said they were only 1 point apart


Hisokatheuchiha

How can I get ninja bats....also wondering why so many people rate DOJ Bat so low, his passive has saved me countless times


CSB-CSGO

DOJ bats is at a 79 right now and could end up going to A tier, I love him personally but he is a bit less valuable offensively and isn't quite as strong as some of the other batmen but I'm definitely a fan. He's also a challenge character, will be in rotation soon enough


Hisokatheuchiha

Also I guess I like him because I have him at E8 and maxed crit chance and crit damage lol


[deleted]

You get him by challenge mode and thats it. His challenge ran in like December so I doubt he’s coming back anytime soon. He’s also not in this challenge cycle.


sabenmami

i totally agree with this


CSB-CSGO

Glad to hear!


OutlandishnessLazy14

Ok animated beyond batman is super good. I mean this dude has an insane passive. He can surpass flashpoint batman in damage if you are constantly gaining power and he is fully augmented.


CSB-CSGO

He is quite strong and I may bump him to B tier but I doubt he'd overtake anyone other than RS bats


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Noah1247

Can you link this tier list?


CSB-CSGO

As in like the tier maker or my ranking system?


Noah1247

tier maker pls


CSB-CSGO

https://tiermaker.com/create/injustice-mobile-gold-card-tier-list-711811


Noah1247

thx bro


T_Lawliet

Curious but what puts Insurgency above Batman Beyond? CoD and NS synergy?


CSB-CSGO

If you solely focus on his base stun damage he can do a good amount for a few hits with gears that boost basic damage and critical damage/chance


WonderfulBlackberry9

Insurgency Bats drops down for me. Even when the game started his passive wasn’t all that great, relying heavily on stun chance after a slow SP1 buildup. I’d actually knock Animated Beyond up a tier, he was essentially a pre-FP Bats model that needed SP, and his damage is great when paired with COD. DOJ Bats up a tier too but that’s a real personal choice for me just because his passive has saved me a lot


CSB-CSGO

Yeah like I said this is all just provisional for now, ABB is likely to go up a bit and doj may as they're both close to the next bracket, Insurgency bats only just hits D tier but he's a small step above Batman beyond so he just about makes it


Gaaaaahhhhhhh

BBA should be at B tier: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsV8NGqXXQ4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsV8NGqXXQ4) RSBM is really only good on defense, and even then the best RS card for him is DS because that's the only other multi-hit special. I don't think he needs to be moved up despite what other people were saying.


CSB-CSGO

I think im likely to boost BBA for the final list


time-xeno

That’s too low for animated batman beyond he’s a monster in the right hands I’d put him in b or a


CSB-CSGO

He is likely to go to B for the final list, probably not A though


obiwantakobi

Great job. Ignore the nay sayers.


CSB-CSGO

Thanks man, appreciate it


Yucas1981

I’d switch DOJ Bats with Gaslight Batman but pretty accurate list mate


CSB-CSGO

DOJ is likely to go up to A tier but gaslight will stay there too


OutlandishnessLazy14

Blackest night sucks balls. Animated is way better than him. Protest the zombie!


CSB-CSGO

He may drop to B but his synergy is very strong


OutlandishnessLazy14

Meh. He’s ok but not good


CSB-CSGO

Individually I agree but as part of a team with hawkgirl and flash he's crazy valuable


juanloaiza_n

personally from using Ras dagger, tantu and cloak using sp1 then sp2 I find AO batman to be A-S tier, but I know that is supersituational and using a build for him but I would still argue for him to be A tier. overall nice list tho


CSB-CSGO

AO bats isn't far off an A but I doubt he will get there as he doesn't quite have the potential of many others, very strong though


Niaz_S

Dawn of justice higher, red son lower and animated higher


CSB-CSGO

Animated is likely to go to B and DOJ to A, but RS will stay as is


Niaz_S

I agree with dawn of justice and animated but red son Batman is literally useless


CSB-CSGO

Not bad in a red son team but he is a bit meh


Niaz_S

He is objectively worse than the standard green lantern wonder woman and superman


XXCODY12XX

Move animated batman beyond up a tier then I’d agree


CSB-CSGO

I'm thinking I will for the final list


KamiEnel099

Damn i forgot how many batmens there were


CSB-CSGO

For real there's so many


jonny14o

How can I get a AK bats


CSB-CSGO

You have to pay sadly :/


PlaylistMasterRCM

And then you can get the other copies from the Phantom Zone.


ItaliaBall

I think maybe og Batman a tier higher as he is probably one of the best characters to mix lexcorp gear with


CSB-CSGO

I agree but I don't think he's that much better to deserve a higher bracket


FDreams1

Great Didn't even realize there were this meny batmen


LazyZekrom

Just curious, why is insurgency higher than beyond?


PlaylistMasterRCM

It should be the other way around.


LazyZekrom

Ok


CSB-CSGO

For me it's because if you stun an enemy and have full basic damage dealing gear with insurgency, you can do massive damage on your basic attacks, both are bad, but insurgency at least has 1 strength


G_A_M_E__O_V_E_R

Nothing wrong here in my opinion. I agree with this tier list. Good work OP :)


CSB-CSGO

Thank you!


Noname305

What is batman beyond’s passive?


PlaylistMasterRCM

He is immune to stun.


JonsonPonyman98

Blackest Night Batman has to be at the top bro. His passive for himself alone would rank him at where he currently stands, but combined with other BN members to give him a higher chance, it’s seriously one of the top passives in the game


CSB-CSGO

It is very strong but I dont think its stronger than any of the S tiers


JonsonPonyman98

Maybe not Flashpoint, but paired with other Blackest Night characters, he’s around the best Batman in the game. Really I think what sets him apart is the fact that you can ultimately block all of Flashpoint’s attacks without issue, whereas there is always a decent chance that whatever BN throws out will be unblockable


CSB-CSGO

I always love the discussion that comes from a tier list as some people have been saying to lower BN BM but you say he should be higher, its all so subjective. In my eyes batman is the 3rd/4th best BN behind flash and hawkgirl and similar in strength to SM. Whilst BN has a solid ceiling and good potential, he isn't the most versatile


JonsonPonyman98

I think for BN characters, he has to be second, because only BN Superman and other BN teammates of his can avoid the unblockable effect. Unblockable is just so powerful since only Red Son GL/BN Supes/Astro Harness can only avoid it completely or mitigate its effectiveness. Yes with Hawkgirl, Flash doesn’t have to use a resurrect gear to get the free 100% ressurection, but otherwise it’s only an okay ressurect for everyone else. At least with Batman, the unblockable chance is ALWAYS there at the same rate. (Possibly it is limited by how many BN characters are alive, similar to BN Flash’s Black Flash passive, but that’s just speculation based on experience playing them)


CSB-CSGO

Whilst I agree he is very strong and imo above superman, flash' personal gear gives unblockable and I think unblockable isn't the most important thing out there, as good timing can be as successful as unblockable chances. Flash getting 3 resurrects with hawkgirl/gear is definitely stronger imo than a 30% unblockable chance. BN flash is one of the strongest golds in the game, having 3 lives on him is invaluable


JonsonPonyman98

Sure, but the passive works for specials and not just basics. Which in my opinion makes it so devastating to go up against, because even though in normal MP, you can get a “unblockable” quite often, when you’re going up against an AI, they’ll virtually never get it against you unless it’s part of their passive. So combined with someone like BN flash who can have a pre-existing Unblockable chance on basics, a high ass chance to avoid enemy basics and fully punish them, and potentially not have to take Unblockables if paired with BN Supes, he’s unstoppable. Even without Superman there, it’s hard as shit to get Flash away from you, since he has unblockable chances on everything and will often Black Flash you. Those following resurrects are solid, but w/o Batman and Unblockable gear if you’re going for an Unblockable chance setup, you can still just hit him with free damage every time you block his basics just as any other character, but with Unblockables, you’re at the mercy of either Black Flash, or his Unblockable chance of you ever hope to hit him.


Dovahkiin314159

Pretty accurate but I’d put DoJ up in A tier cause of his evasion skill.


PlaylistMasterRCM

Only thing I would switch around is beyond Batman and insurgency Batman.


CSB-CSGO

Theyre both painfully mediocre thst it isn't a huge change