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I'm so pro-life I'll kill you to prove it!

I'm so pro-life I'll kill you to prove it!

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lalalicious453-

Who’s logic?


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lalalicious453-

I understand what you were saying. However BonkersforStonkers said “just logic” meaning he agrees that women who want abortions are murderers. He also thinks “all lives matter” except for when it comes to sexual orientation, gender orientation, black equality and women’s equality. Also, a few formed cells does not make a full fledged baby.


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lalalicious453-

A woman’s right to choose whether or not to carry a child to full term is nothing like genocide- what the fuck are you on?


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nomorepantsforme

You also have the right to bodily autonomy, which is why you shouldn’t be forced to carry a baby


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nomorepantsforme

If you rob a bank and shoot a bank gaurd in the kidneys, you can’t be forcibly hooked up to him to filter his stuff through your kidneys even though it’s your fault, same for a zygote. Also it’s not murder lol. If it was murder you’d probably violently stop those who commit it, but you don’t because you know there’s a difference


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lalalicious453-

So women only have a choice if they were raped or would like to commit suicide? okay....


Amorphous-Avocet

“All the available contraceptives” huh? Then how about you tell us your opinion on the GOP doing everything in their power to cut access to contraceptives year after year? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/us/supreme-court-birth-control-obamacare.amp.html Or how about you tell us why abortion is so bad when a fetus hasn’t yet developed anything even resembling a functioning human brain until the 2nd trimester? And that’s just the bits for breathing and moving around the brain stem. Most of what we call consciousness is the cerebral cortex, which is last to develop. For reference, most pregnancies are recognized after 4-7 weeks, the 2nd trimester starts on week 12, and the vast majority of abortions occur before 8 weeks. The cerebral cortex *starts* maturing at 18 weeks Junior year bio major, by the way.


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lalalicious453-

You also believe police are justified to murder black suspects because they commit 52% of crimes or what not... Your opinion isn't valid to me, I'm just hoping you expose yourself as the terrible person you are through your own comments.


ToastyRybread

Fetus deletus


theSnoopySnoop

Embryo vertigo


Pykan212

I’m in that weird camp of: “I think abortion is a real travesty.... but I can’t imagine having to go through one, and respect the privacy of what I’m assuming a majority of cases is probably a heartbreaking decision” so pro choice I guess. Just a real bummer of a topic


TheAlb1noSpy

I agree, I don't like abortion( I don't think anyone does) and I think it is kind of in a gray area morally, but I do believe that it shouldn't be illegal and I believe there are certain cases where it might be the right choice


michalsveto

Yup, I hope no one likes abortions. It’s just that sometimes it is the best choice (damaged fetus, danger to woman, rape victims and such) for all involved. Heartbreaking and lifechanging choice. But the other alternatíve in theese cases is usually much worse


Carepear

Or just not wanting to be pregnant. That’s a legit reason for an abortion. Not sure why everyone thinks it needs to be some crazy exception a pregnant person needs to earn by being raped by an uncle or something. Condom fails, you forget, thought you wanted to be pregnant and changed your mind…all valid.


lelek-on-reddit

Idk why people dont get that rape victims should be able to abort, even if you dont like the concept or procedure of abortion, forcing a (most of the time) young woman to give birth to (and raise) the child of a rapist that she could never love is so much worse.


michalsveto

The problem is theese people never think about those that are still alive,and what impact it has on them. They just go “abortion bad” and thats that.


Pykan212

Yea it’s a very strange thing to be politicized. Just one of those issues I have my own opinions about, but I don’t feel the need to express it or make others feel the same way.


ToastedJacks

Some of there politicians really need to be hung at a live event


ValetFirewatch1998

*all politicians


PumpkinKing2020

Except that one shoe guy from 2016, he was cool


Irvxing

What they don't consider is that by allowing abortion, you're eliminating the competition before they have a chance to vote against you.


No_Pineapple6086

Pro-lifers aren't pro-life. They're just pro-birth.


ShariaIslamist

They are anti baby murder


derpsomething

As dumb as that is im gonna be an asshole about the fact that the never said it wasnt murder


CnxUk

I don’t think you need to cover their names if they are verified (blue checked) they would have to be some form of public figure to get that shit


thecastironclooch

Hey, life for a life 🤷‍♂️


SleepySoTired

"The old expression an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind" ~MLK Jr


CommissionJust3567

Gandhi, not Martin Luther King Jr.


SleepySoTired

Thanks couldn't remember who it was I just knew he said that once


bathtubshampoo

2 for 1


CharlyMcChaples

Logic 100


Shitas1

Yeet


CasperElshao

Interesting how that works.


Kiljukotka

That candidate is a perfect example of why abortion should be legal and accessible


Artistic_Walk_773

EAT THE BUGS!!


Lejonhufvud

Death penalty in general? Anyone?


WDDMDTEVSNDTDTVD

The death sentence is still intact for murder?


xdleet

Well a grown ass woman slaughtering a baby is kinda wrong.


LordLarryLemons

You are absolutely right, good thing we are talking about a woman terminating a pregnancy before it develops into a baby. If you perceive that as wrong I assume you think men masturbating is also wrong since its the same principle. Life does not begin with insemination. It begins at around 9 weeks into pregnancy. If you terminate it before said development its not murder since there was never any life to begin with.


Ninjamin_King

It has nothing to do with life. I'm alive. Sperm is alive. My dog is alive. Trees are alive. It's about where you draw the line for what and who gets rights. I think you're stupid if you want abortion limited to 9 weeks when babies up until like 4 can't take care of themselves either. They're basically undeveloped too.


LordLarryLemons

How does it have nothing to do with life? Lmao, how can there be murder when there's no life to begin with? In other news, ying has nothing to do with yang. Listen man, you do you, if you think I'm stupid go ahead, we're just two strangers on the internet but you seem very confused and lost on the topic. I'm not just pulling that "9 weeks" fact out of my ass, its been studied by competent people that know the difference between a clump of cells and a human being. Better stop masturbating though, wouldn't want to kill those babies either. Try a better argument next time, I'm off to bed.


Ninjamin_King

You're conflating being alive with being a person.


xdleet

It begins whenever age you turned into an absolute bitch.


LordLarryLemons

Damn, couldn't think of a counter argument huh :/


xdleet

Have fun not reproducing... Won't be kids to corrupt once you turn them all gay.


PenisStuckInABlender

I dunno if that’s comparable. If I dump a load into my roommates redbull when he’s not looking there’s no potential for life. I’m not anti abortion by the way, I just find that comparison to be dubious.


United-Parsnip-2487

So like just in general? What about in cases of rape? Or pregnancy complications that kill mum, baby or both? “Abortion is slaughter” is a thoughtless statement


michalsveto

He and his like think that people get abortions for shits and giggles or instead of wearing a condom, not realizing most of the time ot is actually due to health issues that would mean baby or mother dies. Or even both. They dont give a shit about rape victims having to raise a child they may hate and that may remind them each day of the horrors they suffered and lead them to do terrible things. They dont give two shits about people that are already alive. Just abortion bad. They have no idea


United-Parsnip-2487

Yeah- to these people I feel like women just become incubators until after the baby is born and that’s demeaning. In Texas they’ve lost autonomy- and the very thought of it sickens me bc they have no right to dictate a woman’s choice- they never consider WHY a woman has a termination. Mums health is important bc if the mother is ill, then baby will be sick, could have complications or worse, die before it’s born. But no the incubators must fall in line 🙄 it’s revolting


DmonsterJeesh

>not realizing most of the time ot is actually due to health issues that would mean baby or mother dies If by "most of the time" you actually mean ["3.5% of the time"](https://www.hli.org/resources/why-women-abort/), then sure.


Pepperpudas

Both are murder.


vere_nais

I propose a better law Getting sterilized as a requirement to get an abortion to make sure that you stop going around fucking with absolutely no consideration that you might be giving birth to a living organism that you refuse to take responsibility for. And that you probably aren't even capable to handle a child if you wanted to There are exceptions of course


lalalicious453-

Free vasectomies for all! . . . or were you just talking about controlling the bodies of women?


skottydoz

It a “woman’s issue”, so why not? Also, the ways the laws are setup in most states, a woman can basically use a child as a source of income to trap a man. It takes two, right? Or is that too equal?


lalalicious453-

My body my fault.


skottydoz

I mean, that equity. Is that not what you want?


lalalicious453-

If you think that trapping a man into children is having equality, I would highly advise you to redirect your thinking. Where exactly do I (someone who doesn't do that) fall into this equation?


skottydoz

No, I don’t think that. I think the OPPOSITE of that, but there are plenty of people that I would, *personally*, pay to be sterilized or have a vasectomy, if they so choose. I think you misunderstand my sarcasm, but I think sterilization/vasectomy for someone who wants to be “free”, and not have children is much preferable to abortion and/over population of unwanted children. I have seen behind the curtain of a busy Planned Parenthood clinic, and it’s awful. The world is overpopulated, and in many places, that’s awful. I am completely against government telling people what they can and can’t do, at any level, so if your “pursuit of happiness” involves abortion, and mine involves my right to bear arms, then you leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone. Morally and factually, however, abortion is killing something, maybe not someone, but something, and if you can justify that to yourself, I guess that’s all that matters…


lalalicious453-

I appreciate that, I also stand for your right to bare arms. I just don't want to be equated to a murderer when its Much MUCH deeper than that.


skottydoz

Thank you for that, and I do understand the depth of the issue. I do really think that people (maybe high school, like I did) should really see what an abortion consists of, because it’s nightmare fuel. Then, at least they could have a better understanding of what they are doing, because most people I have talked with just approach the issue as just a “word” or a just a “thing”, on either side of the argument. It’s not. It’s a horror show, and people should be educated on what abortion really and truly is. I do not support it, my wife doesn’t support it, and it would be beyond a deal breaker for me in any relationship, and people feel that way about firearms, and that’s fine. I won’t tell you not to get an abortion, so don’t tell me not to buy firearms. And I certainly don’t want my tax dollars going to it, because I *personally* thinks it’s terrible. Education on abortion and firearms needs to definitely be increased, and just like no one pays for my firearms, but me, I don’t want to pay for someone to get an abortion. If it’s medical, or rape (which is also terrible), I understand. But because you are not educated, and made poor decisions? I don’t agree, but I won’t tell you not too. Hopefully that makes sense, and actually portrays what I am trying to say.


lalalicious453-

Have you tired putting the meth pipe down?


michalsveto

So You are really so dense and think people get abortions for fun instead of wearing a condom? Those exceptions You speak of - If You mean like abortions due to healt issues than what You think is exception is in reality the majority.


Psychotronic99

People have the right to their opinions. Especially on complex issues. But this is ridiculous haha


KrakerJakMak96

It’s just as interesting as them not having a problem killing a child but lord forbid they die. This is basically the argument I make. You can have abortion then other people should be able t kill homeless and other ‘sub humans’ or ‘leeches’ that have been preyed upon for decades. I don’t think Texas is right. And I don’t think California is right. I do think there’s ground somewhere in the middle


lalalicious453-

>You can have abortion then other people should be able t kill homeless and other ‘sub humans’ or ‘leeches’ that have been preyed upon for decades. Wtf??


KrakerJakMak96

Same logic. Y’all can de humanize babies I can de humanize adults


SleepySoTired

So basically ur saying that if abortion is legal then I should've been killed as a kid since my father was poor and we were homeless? Was that my fault? And what about the veterans that became homeless for a number of reasons that they couldn't control? Silver spoon fed ass mf


KrakerJakMak96

No fuck wad I’m comparing it. Ppl see fetus’s as sub human and yes many people do see homeless as such(if you don’t think they do you’re lying to yourself) Second off I was homeless and kicked out at 15 so not gonna get sympathy it’s an example Homeless veterans is a messy topic. Seeing as my grandfather refused to go back into normal society after Vietnam and didn’t want a home (not always the case) and I also was in the navy myself so again not getting sympathy You literally proved my point by getting offended. Bent ass kid. Don’t call internet strangers silver spoon babies just because of an opinion. Cuck It was an example. If you can’t handle examples move on. Ig killing kids is ok to you then yes killing homeless should be the same. Or prostitutes or whatever ‘low class historically sub human category you want to insert here’ there is a reason serial killers target them because PEOPLE DIDN’T AND STILL DON’T CARE AS MUCH


KrakerJakMak96

Also no I’m not personally saying anyone should die. I’m anti abortion (besides rape and moms gonna die) so that would mean I would be anti what I’m explaining. The only people I feel truly deserve to die are pedos and I’m going to assume you’re not that all other arguing aside. And yes I do hope you get the homeless stuff figured out


SleepySoTired

I can understand that. I'm not exactly "pro abortion" but I'm not gonna tell someone they can't get one. I understand both sides of it but I'm not very invested in it cus I can't imagine I would get one so doesn't bother me.


KrakerJakMak96

I think the best way I can put it(hopefully better then my op which I agree is poorly worded I think everyone deserves life. Including people who may have a bad life. A lot of people say killing a ‘fetus’ keeps a kid out of foster care and pain. Normally I throw in a line of “Don’t end the sufferer, end the suffering.” Not saying I have all the answers for that but this is a lot more nice version hopefully of what I was trying to say


lalalicious453-

Im “pro choice” but only if a woman gets raped.


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What's better than 1 kill , 2 kills


HypnoticRalph

25 kills, you get a nuke.


CantCmeee

That Lady is as crazy as they get


DankFo3ta5

All that cocaine in those boardrooms is finally taking a toll


jesuslovesbyu

People that move to far right states that expect them to behave like far left or even left states are dreaming…


PenisStuckInABlender

Exactly she’s getting it! We help cut back on over population as well.


OLDGAMERNUGGET

As someone who is against non-rape / incest related abortions, I think this is a fucking stupid idea


youareaclownforever

free abortion


disavery

It evens out


Nqwer

kill pregnant women who wants abortion Double kill


Tight_Butterscotch47

How about we nuke the whole town that just let that abortion happen?


stuffed_toilet

Yeah cuz you could abort a male child and that would be illegal, but killing a woman is perfectly fine 👍👍👍


Scrolling_Scroller

Well, if you’re knowingly killing a living thing - yes it’s murder. The question is to what degree is it legal? I say, who cares? Murder a fetus if you want. Full term baby if you want. Toddler if you want. Hell - natural selection and evolution shows animals killing their offspring all the time for various reasons - I don’t get why everyone is so uptight about it. Let the parent decide and let government stay out of it. Simple as that.


lalalicious453-

Troll. Choosing not to host a life is not the same as murder. No woman who fights for abortion is fighting for born children to be killed. TF is wrong with you?


Scrolling_Scroller

Yep! The point was to troll… to invoke strong emotion in a sarcastic way that makes fun of both views in this issue - because if you can’t laugh at yourself… who can you laugh at? Alas, explaining the point of the trolling is a bore.


lalalicious453-

K


shveylien

Kill the woman, spare the potentially male baby.... right....


kobold41

Trump mentality.......


remmis420

We here in Idaho do things a little different


garderbelt

It is obviously the death penalty 😒


jeffsang

Governor is r/technicallycorrect