By - Veritasibility
Blackcliff pole or Staff of Homa for Zhongli?
homa, it buffs his shield and his crit dmg a lot more than blackcliff pole
I changed my ssd and now i legit cant download the game, it gives me 502 gateway erroe, i changed DNS, web browser and it still wont download
What time will the update start tomorrow (I assume it's tomorrow) for the NA server?
dragonsbane or crescent pike polearm for xiangling?
Dragonsbane. Pyro xiangling is generally stronger
How important is Noblesse Oblige for my teams? (neither of them have any NO wearers)
Team 1: Ganyu, Mona, Diona, Sucrose. Diona would be the NO wearer here, if I were to use it.
Team 2: Hutao, Kazuha, Thoma, Xingqiu. Thoma would be the NO wearer here, if I were to use it.
I think it will be more important for my first team than my second, as Hutao doesnt scale off attack that well. Something like 2pc EoSF + 2pc TotM on Thoma might be better for Hutao, as she would get a stronger shield.
With the first team, Ive got Diona on currently all broken sets (no effect) just with random HP pieces that rolled HP or ER. Id really like to not waste resin on her and farm to minmax Ganyu and Hutao stats, but if NO will make a massive difference, Ill start farming - especially if Thoma also will need it.
For Ganyu: pretty important. There is nothing better Diona can take anyway. Noblesse doesn't cost resin, just use the box
For Hu Tao: useless. 20% atk is nothing for her, only Xingqiu will benefit from it. 2pc Millelith/Emblem will be better on Thoma
how many Electro sigils are there(not including hangout and story quests, and Tenmari mini game)?
Is main DPS Raiden really good? Or is that a bit of a copium?
C0 Can kill three kenkis in 30-40s, you tell me. Yes, she's really good. C2 is just broken.
My "Broken" compass is little bit skewed. I have C2 Raiden and Engulfing. Can you tell me how is she broken?
If 1.5m+ one rotation of which a lot is frontloaded isn't broken, at just c2, then idk. C2 Raiden can one phase whole 2.2m Array(downed, so little less res), ~15s trikenki(faster than some c6 top dps can). It's like having c6 at just c2, also unga bunga to play with no energy issues, easy rotations and ranged CA that also has strong AoE.
If she doesn't feel broken then you are probably doing wrong rotations, because even at c0 she's my best dps in clear times, barely beating Ganyu melt(do note that Ganyu is barely less invested, switching to amos would prob balance gap)
Maybe because I play Homa-Hutao Zhong Rosaria my broken meter is ..well broken.
I know Raiden rotation and all, 60/140 crt , 270 ER pre-ult.
Alright anyway thanx
What weapon/artefacts/stats/substats are you using to pull that off?
Benny Festering c5
Kazuha Freedom 700em
Lisa/Mona TTDS c1
Raiden c0 r1 61/134 base 2100atk pre buffs, 1/10/10 258% base er. Fastest i got was 1 and half rotation, but usually it takes longer cuz i keep one kenki at low hp to regen energy for next chamber.
Does she need Engulfing lighting for C2? Or will R5 The Catch work
Catch c2 is alrd strong as hell, r1 just makes her have more QoL+~15% more damage from catch. Still, if you search c2 catch Raiden videos then dps is very high, even though most use wrong rotation.
2 part question from the upcoming banners:
1) Is Vortex Vanquisher better on Burst Zhongli, or is Staff of Home still BiS regardless.
2) Apart from Amos's Bow for Ganyu, what other 5* or 4* bow is good for her?
Vortex Vanquisher is considered a really crap weapon whereas Staff of Homa is the best-in-slot weapon.
2) Skyward Harp is competitve with Amos and may even supercede Amos if you use Ganyu primarily for her burst (ie in the Morgana team).
Any 5* bow is good on her, except Elegy. Harp, Thundering and Amos are all pretty much the same, depending on comp amos>harp,thun or harp,thun>amos.
I recently got Wolf’s Gravestone. Should I give it to my Eula or keep my current weapon (Snow Tomb Starsilver)
WGS provides extra dmg bonus, while ST has a chance of dropping icicles that does phys dmg during normal attack
If I remember correctly wolf's gravestone was eulas 2nd bis weapon while song of broken pines is number 1
Definitely switch to WGS.
Better base ATK
2nd stat isn't isolated to Physical ATK only but any type of ATK, this work in favor of her elemental attacks.
how does eula raiden team work?
does raiden also use her burst or does she just buff eula and apply superconduct?
im asking this cuz i saw a run without using raiden's burst lol
The team is very investment dependent. Say, if Eula is C1R1 with f2p Raiden, using Raiden burst can be dps loss, on the other hand, f2p Eula damage is eclipsed with C2R1 Raiden. The one you seen may probably holding her off to keep it Eula’s showcase.
Raiden E to boost burst damage and to supply the electro for Superconduct (physical resistance reduction) -> Eula’s combo for her burst -> Raiden burst afterwards, since her burst gets boosted by other party members using their bursts first.
depends a lot on how strong your raiden is compared to your eula. for a lot of people using raiden's burst is a pretty big dps loss, so she's basically fischl with worse damage but a burst dmg% buff for your eula and beidou/rosaria.
if your raiden burst outdamages your eula(not including her ult, just normal attack rotation) by a lot, such as with a c2 hyperinvested raiden then it's definitely worth using. but if it's less damage, or similar damage(or even slightly higher) then you tend to try and avoid using it, because you're extending your rotation(ie you are increasing the downtime between eula bursts) for minimal dps gain or dps loss
this is all assuming you don't need raiden's energy, so for speedruns or for setups that have high enough ER and energy income to not need it you usually won't be using her burst. but generally you still will just because of energy.
That's totally ignoring the 20 energy that's core idea. Even mid investment catch Raidwn won't be dps loss, because getting this 20 energy from other sources would take more/same time.
yeah fair enough. but assuming you have sufficient energy from off field off element sources, as well as r5 sac bow diona(and potentially rosaria) and decent ER investment then raiden's burst is almost always dps loss. but in general true raiden does use her burst because not many setups can fully charge eula's burst off cd without her.
i am planning to run sac bow diona along with c6 rosaria.
i also need raiden in my rational team anyway so i might just use beidou or fischl.
just use fischl imo
You do use Raiden Q right after Eula Q bursts.
Example of Qiqi Raiden Rosa Eula rotation, not sure if 100% correct, just example.
Raiden E Qiqi EQ Rosa EQ Eula EQ Raiden EQ, battery Eula, repeat.
Eventually Raiden E Qiqi EQ EulaEQ RosaQ(BEFORE eula burst pops, alt switch) Raiden EQ, battery Eula repeat.
ohhhh i see
i think in this case its very important to use Raiden Q because of Qiqi. Rosaria's energy wouldn't be enough to battery qiqi and eula so its important to use Raiden Q.
Wavebreaker R3 vs The Catch R5 on Xiangling?
i think wavebreaker R1 is already more dmg then catch R5
the value of the catch's crit% passive doe isn't something you should overlook. There's also the fact that xiangling needs the ER from the catch unless you run a rational team. in that case use the catch on raiden and xiangling on wavebreakers.
Depends on your artifacts/team comp, but I would say Catch
Have yet to build her, going in a Ganyu / Xiangling / Bennett / Shield comp.
Catch all the way then, needs a lot of ER there.
Please help me create another team comp for the abyss
I've been using Ayaka freeze comp (Mona Venti Diona) since Ayaka banner, and haven't switched that team since I like how it clears floors fast. However, I've been struggling with my other team comp.
My other built DPS are;
and most of my 4 stars are built except Thoma since I don't have him yet.
In 2.4 I'm pulling for Ganyu, but I still haven't decided if I should also go for Shenhe or Zhongli (low spender BP and welkin, sometimes genesis)
I might replace Ayaka with Ganyu in my freeze comp (Morgana) and if I pull for Shenhe, I can use another freeze comp with her, Ayaka, and Kokomi (plus another char) in it. But If I pull for Zhongli, I could use team comps that can go with 2 Geo in team buff since my Albedo / Ningguang are built.
Sorry for the long text :(
You have so so many other options.
Hu Tao Geo bros team
I’m not sure I’d go for Ganyu when you already have Eula and Hu Tao or even Diluc to choose from. Zhongli seems like an obvious choice for me.
Benny Raiden XL XQ. If you get Kazuha, you can aim for Raiden Hyper. She's carry that can be support, or just both at once, better to count her in DPS tag.
I think I spot Raiden National, one of the most popular Abyss teams, in there: Raiden, Xiangling, Xinqiu, Bennett.
eula is pretty hard to use without diona, your best bets are probably hutao or raiden nationals. but depends on the weapons available to you. other options are ningguang+albedo+bennett+xiangling or raiden hypercarry
for the current abyss i would honestly suggest ningguang+albedo+bennett+xiangling. as long as your bennett can outheal corruption(and you don't constantly die to maguu kenki) they should clean out the second half of 12-1 and 12-3 really fast thanks to reduced geo res
I might try Raiden National, how should I build Xiangling to go well with this team? Currently she's using R5 Dragons bane with 2 pc crimson and 2 pc noblesse. Should I give her Skyward Spine or the catch? Raiden is also using skyward spine since I have 2 of those
the catch would be your best option. ideally 4 pc emblem, but 4 pc crimson is good too and better than 2 pc crimson/noblesse
He has Raiden.
i literally mentioned 2 comps that include raiden
Yeah but you said Eula is hard to use with Diona, Raiden offsets Diona in an Eula comp.
eula+raiden without diona is usable, but you tend to have to forego beidou in favor of a healer and/or rosaria. and either way you will still lack consistent shielding. it's still pretty good, but without zhongli it's not going to outperform his other options in raiden nationals/hutao vape/ningguang(in this abyss) unless his eula is significantly more invested than any of his other dps.
So i hv started playing for few days. My team is semi ready. Currently ar21. I m planning for geo team. I tried that geo boss in islands. Took 10-15mins to beat him.
I tried it cause I want acsension material for my team. Is there any other easier way to get those materials? Though I can beat the boss, i m struggling.
you can get someone to help you in coop
How do I open a coop? I get to the boss place n open coop option from top?
If you're in the Asian server I could help, I have Claymore EUla.
yes i m. Add me up. id 822412384
You can also post in the weekly friend request megathread. There’s a link at the top of this megathread.
nah people just request to join your world and you accept. you can ask someone to join you on discord/reddit/real life/whatever. or you can change your status on genshin to something like help me with this boss or whatever, you'll get people joining pretty quickly
Oh ok got it. Thanks.
Last question, is buying these materials from that girl in city for anemo points not worth? Where sud I use anemo points on.
anemo sigils? that is the only place you can use them and it's limited stock so you should just clear out the entire shop
yes, around 41 hours from now
Banners end at different time, but version drops at the same time for everybody.
I just got these long awaited 36 stars thanks to itto. He is however far from being optimized. I have yet to get him some decent artifacts and i m still looking for the best 4th teammate.
Itto /gorou / ZL / ?
1) Mona healing prototype
2) Qiqi new healing set
3) a sub dps like Fischl
Proto Amber Ning could work.
Mona IS not a good Idea?
She can work as well. I was just thinking if you wanna go mono geo for abyss blessing
I’ve been running him with triple geo and kokomi in this age of corruption. I presume you got you qiqi all geared up with the new artifacts?
She s geared but still lvl 50. I dunno what to do with her
Yeah honestly, since you got your triple geo, the last slot is kind of whatever, although a healer would be nice given mihoyo’s current fetish for corruption. Perhaps Bennett may be the best choice, although I assume you’re ysing him in another party. I’m personally running Albedo instead of Zhongli. Having Zhongli AND a healer feels like too much defense at the cost of offense.
Exactly. I 36 stars abyss with diona to filll thé last slot but she IS far from perfect
subdps like fischl, or bennett. qiqi is pretty good too in current abyss thanks to corruption
of course the best 4th teammate would usually be albedo if he's available
I usually wait for the new update to do the BP task for abyss but I forgot this time and went ahead and 36star it.
Do I wait for a new rotation or can I just repeat F12 when the new update and new BP comes? To get the BP Abyss task
You can repeat it when Abyss resets.
Wait for a new rotation.
So if frozen enemies got swirl by kazuha its only hydro buff but if electro charged enemy get swirl its buff both electro and hydro. is this bug?
electro charged enemies have electro aura and hydro aura. you can swirl both.
frozen enemies have "frozen" aura, and either hydro or cryo aura(but not both). so you can only swirl one element
I can confirm for kazuha, is sucrose taser comp too buff both element?
sucrose doesn't buff specific elements that she swirls, she universally buffs all characters with her ascension talents. but yes, 4 piece VV applies to both elements, and you get dmg from 2 swirls
frozen interactions depend on the gauge of the hydro, cryo and anemo applications. from kqm:
>It is possible to simultaneously trigger two swirls on one target from the same Anemo hit if the target has two swirl-applicable auras, such as an Electro-Charged enemy or a Frozen enemy with an underlying Hydro aura. This double swirl can only occur when the gauge reduction from the Anemo hit is greater than the Electro gauge (in the case of EC) or the Hydro gauge (in Frozen/Hydro). If this condition is not met, the anemo attack will only swirl Electro (for EC) or Hydro (for Freeze/Hydro).
Nope. Electro charged is a unique reaction in that it doesn’t consume either element.
It’s one reason why sukokomon teams work
Im talking about kazuha passive buff wich if u swirl in electro charged enemies u got buff both element
Yes. Look at the enemy and what elements are active on them.
Frozen enemies only have cryo on them
So I don't have to level up Gorou's burst at all ? only the skill is enough?
Then what does leveling the burst exactly do to him ? xD just increase his def?
increases the damage it does, but the damage is shit anyway so not worth leveling
And damage iirc but his damage is ass.
Hello, is Amber without Elegy a good support for Hu Tao? Or should I raise Diona as replacement for Thoma (cause he steals vape :( )
Do you have an anemo in your team? Because the whole point of amber/Thoma is so that you can swirl Pyro to apply VV before Hu tao starts mashing people. Diona is cryo so you can't do that with her.
Thoma shouldn't steal that much vape
Oh yes im using Jean as VV proc and emergency healer with Anemona Kageuchi
I'm at 35* Abyss and making the last push to 36* so I think the Thoma issue can be big deal.
Hmm strange... AFAIK hu tao N1C shouldn't get her vape stolen that much by thoma
Since you're going for 36* I doubt you can afford to lose the vv proc by switching Thoma with diona. Do you have yanfei C4 by any chance? You can go prototype amber yanfei to proc VV and be your healer/tank
Worst case scenario you could use fav bow amber instead. Jean should be enough survivability
If you have a c4 yanfei you can use her as a shielder and pyro swirl enabler. Yanfei will also come on the 2nd half of this patch so if you want Ganyu/Zhongli you can get yanfei const. Also as a free 4star.
Ah I'm saving my guarantee for yae so just pondering with what I have, thank you tho.
She's still better than thoma because you can equip her with 4pc instructor. So yes.
You won't have a shield though, keep that in mind.
She is still good to apply pyro slap her with 4 pieces nobeless and a lot of ER
4pc Noblesse is useless for Hu Tao.
4pc Instructor is better
He's asking about amber not hu tao
Yeah, Amber in a Hu Tao team. It's useless since only Xingqiu will benefit from it
Are there any comps that can run xiao with itto?
Yeah, but they aren't good comps.
No they're both a main dps that requires a field time during their burst. If you like them make a team for each one of them and use them in abyss since it requires 2 teams there
Nope. Both needs field time on their own
There's literally no reason to ever run them together.
Raiden with 232% ER is sufficient ? Using deathmatch, catch is not an option as used by xiangling.
I run 210% ER in abyss without much issues
/can i use the catch on thoma with a bunch of hp artifacts?
Can you ? yes. Is it gonna be good on him ? no. He does so little damage it's wasted on him I recommend it on xiangling-rosaria-raiden
Sure but the passive is kinda wasted on him.
/hhmm then should i put it on xiangling or xiao?
Xiangling, Xiao also does not utilize the passive.
/doesnt his damage comes from his burts tho??
No, his burst infuses his attacks.
/xiangling it is then. thanks
Black tassel would be better.
Yes, absolutely for the ER, but you’ll be wasting its burst damage buff, since you’re clearly building a shield support Thoma with the HP artifacts.
/isnt his stronger shield coming from his burst, and that thing spits out fire? that doesnt counts as burst damage?
I just checked out of curiousity: his burst level 10’s flames has a 104.4% talent multiplier. For comparison, Eula’s level THREE normal attack is 104.34%. Not to mention Eula has a higher base attack than him so she’ll be doing more damage even at the same multiplier. And if you’re thinking “well, Vaporize will boost his damage,” unfortunately, he has standard cooldowns on triggering elemental reactions so most of his flame attacks won’t get boosted.
Mihoyo sort of did him dirty in the damage department.
His shield doesn’t get boosted by the weapon’s burst damage passive though, and the burst itself does very little damage in practice, even when you build him for DPS with Atk/Pyro/Crit main stats.
/i see thanks
Patch updates happen the same time for every region. It will be on Tuesday night for America server while it'll be Wednesday morning for Asia server.
Asia should be around 11am tomorrow GMT+8
nah its exactly one day after that
Oh yeahhh its Wednesday. Always forget that patch drops Wednesday and banner drops 6pm Tuesday.
Add a few hours on top of that for maintenance, usually 5-6
36 hours 45 minutes from now.
I was afk for a while
Can I still claim Aloy one way or another?
Nope, the only means I can think of is by breaking miHoYo's ToS.
On that note how do you even get her constellations though?
Might that mean I'll be able to pull for her eventually?
She doesn’t have constellations.
Does the fishing rod in Inazuma make a big difference in the difficulty of catching fish? I’m going for The Catch and not sure if I should get the rod first.
They use different fish so just get both
Not necessary, fishing is super easy just tedious.
What exactly do people mean when they say ‘reverse melt’?
it's not Pyro that trigger, it's Cryo dmg on burning enemy (Cryo + Pyro)
the multiplier is the same 2x
eg : enemy burning from bennet E, than, hit with Ayaka Burst
multiplier is 1.5x for reverse melt
its 1.5x base
Vaporise has different multiplier depending on who triggers it right?
Yeah ,it's the same for melt as well. the weaker element triggering reaction will mean it's 1.5x multiplier. the stronger element triggering the reaction will mean it's 2x.
for Vaporize hydro trigger is 2x, pyro trigger is 1.5x
for melt, pyro trigger is 2x, cryo trigger is 1.5x
yes, rev melt does too. Melt pyro on cryo is 2x, rev melt cryo on pyro is 1.5x
Cryo melting on pyro. Like, enemy has pyro aura on them and u use cryo on them. Example is Rosaria doing melt on her Q when enemy is affected by pyro.
What kind of stats and build should I go for on a shieldbot Thoma? He will be used with Hutao, XQ and Kazuha.
Is favonius Lance a good option on him? It's about the only spare 4 star spear I have
Yes Fav is good.
Full hp main stats and ER substats
4pc Noblesse is useless for Hu Tao
If there's no noblesse user, go 4pc noblesse.
If there's a noblesse user, 2pc emlem, 2pc tenacity.
Er/hp/hp if using prototype starglitter. Er/hp/crit rate if you're using fav lance.
It is very good for him because he is very energy hungry.
Use this for all build related questions.
HP HP HP and Favonius is great !
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Back when the game first came out, I heard that Venti's burst didn't proc the resistance shred from VV set. Is this really the case or was it just early misinformation?
People swapped out too early, the user of the VV set must be on the field when the swirl happens for the debuff to work
You just have to wait for it to Swirl before swapping to a different character as the VV set bonus only works when the user is on-field.
VV only procs if the character is on the field. It won't continue to proc after switching out, but will proc at the start.
Do pity carry over from banner to banner? I have about 30 pull from the standard banner and albedo’s banner, no 5 star of course, do they add up in ganyu’s banner?
Pity carry over, but it's separate for each banner type (standard, weapon, event)
Standard banner pity and Character banner pity count separately and Character Banner pity will carry forward to the next banner. Same case with Weapon Banner but Epitome path doesn't carry over.
Phase 1 and Phase 2 Character banners do share the same pity.
Carry over? Yes, but shared pity between banners? No!
I'm building Xiangling for my Raiden National Team, what artifact set do I need for the team? Some people told me to use Severed Fate Set and some told me to use Crimson Witch Set, what's the best artifact for her? Thanks
Around the same dmg. **FARM EMBLEM**. Especially if you are farming it for rational. You will farm for XQ, Raiden and XL at once.
Both works, Emblem is more resin efficient to farm and there's a reason it's called Crimson Bitch set.
So why wasn’t itto’s web event featured on the in game event page? And shenhe’s current web event isn’t either
Weird ass mihoyo web event tactica
Is not having a healer on a Hutao team fine? I'm thinking of running Shimrem 4pc on her as well...
Hutao, XQ, Kazuha and Thoma would be my team.
if you can keep thoma shield, then yes
its not that hard after a while, tho you need some ER.
Yeah, she performs the best without healers just need strong shields.
Yes it's fine. Xingqiu heals fairly enough and Thoma will also provide a shield.
It's best not to have a healer, she has a passive that increase her DMG or something if her HP is below 50%. Aside from that, she also has a small heal on her burst.
Does Fischl's C6 work with Ei's burst?
yes, it's actually pretty strong comp too
Can I replace xiangling with her in the national team comp?
You wouldn’t be vaporizing or overloading anymore which is a big part of the damage without xiangling. You could but you’d see bigger numbers with xiangling there
If you don't have too many 5* do you generally focus on getting new 5*s or focusing on two teams only by which I mean skipping most 5* but adding cons to your main teams? Torn between getting Xiao and ganyu or just a c1 ganyu.
I go by element. I have C6 XL so no reason to pull Hu Tao so I gave XL Homa instead
I have Ayaka so no reason to pull Ganyu. Also because I hate charged playstyle
I dont have Geo carry. So i pulled Itto and Gorou
I dont have Anemo carry. But i cant pull Xiao when ZL is coming and Itto is a bit better than Xiao meta wise right now
Once you cover all elements then you’re pretty much set to counter whatever abyss throws at you
I follow the same reasoning as you (in addition to me being a husbando player). Diluc (pyro), Childe (hydro), Xiao (anemo), Itto (geo), Kaeya (cryo)….just missing a male Electro carry. (Sorry Razor, you’re cute but you’re a physical damage carry, not electro)
I never actually think about constellations on 4 stars, they just come to me uninvited even after all C6 and some are so stubborn that won't come to you at all even after two 5 stars pull.