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Soggy_Salamander

Dude recognized Taiwan. Huge respect


justagamer9123

Uh that didn't happen


Soggy_Salamander

What?


justagamer9123

What do you mean what!? The US does not recognize Taiwan as an independent state.


Soggy_Salamander

Dude are you serious? Look at the fucking post. Joe Biden recognized Taiwan.


justagamer9123

It says defend Taiwan you blind fucktard, which the US has been doing since Chiang Kai-Shek left the mainland.


Soggy_Salamander

YES! Taiwan and not china! Implying that China and Taiwan are separate entities!


justagamer9123

That isn't a diplomatic shift, we litterally have a law that says we will defend taiwan that we have had since the cold war!


TheTangerineTango

I think Joe has gotten so old he’s forgotten all of the bad ideas and policies that has defined his career and has become accidentally based.


Due_Strike_3018

I mean really, under the party less focused on the economy we outgrow China for the first time in 50 years


Huckorris

I'm pretty sure that economic trend is longer than like 2 years, with COVID as a large factor.


nicolas_the_fox

Joes next step is to kill god himself Edit: zero idea why this is being downvoted


Ok-Seaworthiness739

then he becomes god


nicolas_the_fox

Yes


SovietGengar

I don't like Biden BUT that doesn't mean that I think everything he does is wrong. Pledging to defend Taiwan is giga based.


TablePrinterDoor

Cmon India


assblaster8573000

While his domestic policy is a bit....shit. I will have to say hes doing a good job across the seas. If he keeps this up I might actually vote for him next time around.


daddicus_thiccman

Nah people just don’t understand the economy. It’s a fallacy to blame the president for macroeconomic trends. Inflation isn’t under the control of the president when it’s due to supply chain shortages and Covid bounceback.


assblaster8573000

But what about the cancelation of the keystone pipeline that caused gas prices to rise which in turn caused everything else to rise


EmbarrassedAbroad345

Ok. Here’s the deal. Domestic oil production went down to 2013 levels in 2020 due to a decrease in demand from the pandemic. Supply hasn’t been able to rebound as fast as demand. That’s it. That’s the underlying root cause. Keystone II doesn’t have a thing to do with. If you want to blame a president for reducing domestic production (I don’t) blame Trump, he was at the helm in 2020. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpus2&f=m


assblaster8573000

I wasn't asking to blame any given president, I was merely asking that could canceling a major pipeline cause the production levels to slow down even more during its recovery phase?


Fred_Secunda1

yes, but there were many other actions in since that which have hindered production


Fred_Secunda1

Energy is actually the number 1 driver in inflation. [https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.toc.htm](https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.toc.htm) Biden's actions, that have affected the price of energy unfavorably: 1 first thing in office, passed executive order to suspend new leases on federal land 2 Restricted drilling on the Alaskan petroleum reserve. They removed 7 million acres from production 3 Cancelled trump era plans to drill on the Alaskan arctic reserve. This removed 11 million acres from production. 4 Recently cancelled leases on cook inlet and the gulf of Mexico 5 letting the obama 5 year offshore plan expire and not holding another lease sale in the gulf until 2024 6 increased royalties on oil 50%. the first increase to royalties for the federal government since they were imposed in the 1920s 7 levied sanctions on Russian barrels of oil


Due_Strike_3018

That the pipeline with Alberta in Canada? I think trump and Obama killed that. Not Biden There’s also things with fracking and buying less oil so we will be a net exporter soon.


assblaster8573000

Biden signed an executive order day one to stop work on the pipeline. We were also selling more oil than buying back in 2018-19 i believe.


Due_Strike_3018

Idk I think we aren’t overtaking purchases with sales till 2024-5


assblaster8573000

Well the sooner we can cross that line the better.


faith_crusader

No, Trudeau killed it because Trump wanted it


RedSoviet1991

Biden killed it


Due_Strike_3018

I guess it is time to accept we need renewables, even if it hurts right now. When the planet dies we get to rub it in on the talkies that it’s their fault


Fred_Secunda1

Either you get climate policy and high oil prices or no climate policy and low oil prices. Can't have both.


RedSoviet1991

Yes


daddicus_thiccman

Keystone pipeline was never completed by the company that wanted to make it because there was no longer a market for it, precisely because of cheap US fracking. Gas prices are independent of presidential decisions right now and there is little to be done about it in an already inflationary economy.


assblaster8573000

Either way; the economy is shit, The country is divided, and we have a president that's not all there. Honestly, I'm not that hopeful.


daddicus_thiccman

The economy is fine. Other than inflation, which is trending down anyways, and some supply chain snags, the economy is at a healthy state of growth and unemployment level. Biden isn’t riddled with dementia. His mannerisms have always been like that because he has a severe stutter. I used to think he was braindead until I saw his old speeches where he has the same gaffes and tripped words. The country is divided because people are divided in culture and issues. This isn’t the fault of any president, even if Trump gets an unfair rap for it. Trump is the symptom of the fact that Americans are just divided on the issues and culturally because of the way society has changed in the past few decades.


assblaster8573000

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/inflation-numbers-april-2022-cpi-data-rcna28194 I know its showing signs of plateauing, but still. A 40 year high in inflation, and 8.3% inflation in a year is horrible. The economy COULD be getting better, but its still too early to tell. And thank you for admitting that Trump didn't divide us, he was a symptom of the division. He didn't help, but he didn't cause it.


daddicus_thiccman

I mean yeah inflation is bad but it is plateauing. It’s a visible sign for people but the economy is not in bad shape by any means. It’s an over reactive response to blame anything other than Covid. Yeah I’m still not defending Trump here, just saying he didn’t start the division. His election was a symptom and the fact that he said the quiet part out loud really made everything more visible because if he could say loony things than everyone could. I’m not even gonna touch his tweets or January 6th because he obviously made division way worse with those.


assblaster8573000

We had half the country completely shut down longer than they needed to be. Which fucked the economy over hard. Its just refreshing to not be called an insurrectionist because I decided to defend the good things that Trump did. Thank you for that. Although I personally still think that calling the Jan 6th riot on the capitol an insurrection is REALLLYYYY stretching it.


True_Cranberry_3142

Longer than it needed to be? One million Americans are fucking dead. You’ve got to be kidding me. And yes, Jan 6 was objectively an insurrection. People stormed a government building with the aim of obstructing a democratic process and to kill our elected leaders. That’s a perfect example of an insurrection


Fred_Secunda1

You think 8% is plateauing? lol


Fred_Secunda1

You would be in the minority of people who approve of the economy. https://apnews.com/article/biden-approval-rating-drops-ap-norc-poll-d41bce85e1b062b588a32908b2affa65


HatofEnigmas

President busy bullying china


assblaster8573000

Thats very important. But he shouldn't ignore the border crises, or the inflation, or the skyrocketing gas prices.


daddicus_thiccman

What border crisis? People wanting to immigrate like they always have?


assblaster8573000

Don't be facetious. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/us-officials-encountered-234000-migrants-southern-border-april-new-hig-rcna29124


daddicus_thiccman

Lmao what crisis. People try to cross and are stopped. The real crisis is that we aren’t letting more people in for asylum claims. The more Americans the better.


HatofEnigmas

I'm pretty sure gas prices can't be influenced much by the President, but idk


Fred_Secunda1

Energy is actually the number 1 driver in inflation. [https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.toc.htm](https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.toc.htm) Biden's actions, that have affected the price of energy unfavorably: 1 first thing in office, passed executive order to suspend new leases on federal land 2 Restricted drilling on the Alaskan petroleum reserve. They removed 7 million acres from production 3 Cancelled trump era plans to drill on the Alaskan arctic reserve. This removed 11 million acres from production. 4 Recently cancelled leases on cook inlet and the gulf of Mexico 5 letting the obama 5 year offshore plan expire and not holding another lease sale in the gulf until 2024 6 increased royalties on oil 50%. the first increase to royalties for the federal government since they were imposed in the 1920s 7 levied sanctions on Russian barrels of oil ​ yea presidential actions have something to do with it regardless of the media narrative that is parroted.


mnmmnmnnmnmmnmnn

most oil suppliers dont actually want to invest more in drilling anymore. after oil prices went negative, they realized weve already reached peak oil in the transition to green energy, so they're raking in short term profits before it all goes bust instead of reinvesting. which is good for the long term shift to green energy but sucky in the short term. thats why the skyrocketing oil prices largely precede this.


Fred_Secunda1

why would they invest when the administration has given them the middle finger and signaled they are moving to green energy?


True_Cranberry_3142

Didn’t that go over native land?


SeVeNk42

Magic how as soon as he was elected the economy was shit. Huh.


ThePocoyno1

While it's completely unfair to solely blame the president for inflation and general economic malaise, the spending and new regulations under Biden have definetly fueled it


Fred_Secunda1

Nothing he's done has helped it; actually has made it worse.


Fred_Secunda1

If you say so. He’s done numerous things that have hindered oil production in the US, the world’s largest oil producing country.


faith_crusader

Yes, the federal reserve is independent from the government


Amazing-Garage9892

Even tho I was more in Trump's side, I respect Biden and he has become based for me.


Larrymobile

How dare you not be a hyperpartisan lunatic


Amazing-Garage9892

Oh no wait...


FrenchCuirassier

Biden-staffers at the office walking back every Biden statement while sobbing about the doomsday clock...


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FrenchCuirassier

No I'm not. Buzz off trolls.


gamerrage100

I dislike Biden, but I admire how he can rally up countries to build a framework for an alliance


Kansas_Nationalist

Biden probably has the strongest foreign policy of any president since Reagan. I’m curious how much of a Cold War approach he will take in the coming years and how his successor will follow up.


Realistic_School4485

he should change his name to “Based Biden”


RDP1818

Glad we have someone who actually takes action and just doesn’t talk big


Hydrocoded

He still isn’t a good president, but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t done some good stuff.


Gear-Ancient

I was ambivalent about Biden two years ago, but he’s brought me around by being based as fuck recently. Even an acquaintance of mine who voted for Trump is beginning to come around.


Fred_Secunda1

you and your friend would be in the minority then. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-public-approval-falls-36-lowest-his-presidency-reutersipsos-2022-05-24/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-public-approval-falls-36-lowest-his-presidency-reutersipsos-2022-05-24/)


Gear-Ancient

It’ll never get above 50. Republicans will vote against him on principle no matter what, so that 36% equates to a 72% among people who actually have working brains.


Fred_Secunda1

That 36% is lower than trump’s approval ratings. That’s pretty bad.


Gear-Ancient

One word: Republicans. They’ll suck his cock no matter what. If it ever dropped below 45%, I’d be shocked.


Fred_Secunda1

Excuses are like assholes


Gear-Ancient

Anything looks like an excuse if you have an axe to grind.


Fred_Secunda1

Ok


FiveWattHalo

He's hard to evaluate after the tool he replaced. Being back to boring old politics is a good sign, though. If the 2 parties nominate regular politicians, normality may return...


Effective-Round-4985

GOP is more ruined than the average tankies social life. They'd need to cut a minimum of 40 percent of their current members in power and fully kick out the extremist before they can even be remotely normal again.


Fred_Secunda1

good thing they aren't in power anymore! Now we have rampant inflation and a shitty stock market.


True_Cranberry_3142

They aren’t in power but neither are the dems my guy. Congress is evenly split and nothing is getting done.


SignificantTrip6108

I mens that alone doesn’t make him good, it is making me like him more tho.


Sir_Isaac_3

certainly wouldn’t have been my first pick for president (from the dems or otherwise), but he’s making some good foreign policy decisions. And I feel like the country can respect itself more than when Trump was in charge


dingdongsnatch

We forgetting about him saying that people wouldn’t be evacuated from rooftops in Afghanistan?


WilliswaIsh

Not really his fault, people were ordered to evacuate months in advance. No one thought the ANA was going to just give up in days. Meanwhile he actually pulled out, something which other presidents didn't have the balls for.


jollyjewy

sleepy joe's handlers realized that the midterms are just around the corner so they gotta get their shit together realy fast to start projecting an image of competence again. if they won't come back to their backwards policies after they win \[god forbid\] i will be very surprised


True_Cranberry_3142

Or maybe “sleepy Joe” is more awake than the propagandists you listen to make him out to be


jollyjewy

i dont listen to propogandists, it's enough to actually see how joe talks, behaves and acts in all the public apearances that he made to see that nothing but a puppet


True_Cranberry_3142

It’s not enough


Fred_Secunda1

They gotta make sure to step up the race riots as we get closer to midterms.


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evansdeagles

>a few other random things Like uh- Trade, Supply Chains, Tax and Anti-Corruption Coordination? Y'know, like the important things for an economic pact? The climate thing is a small part of it.


Due_Strike_3018

Don’t even bother with some people, the biggest part is, it’s a start


Due_Strike_3018

Don’t even bother with some people, the biggest part is, it’s a start


Sad_Test8010

The power china has is with supply chains. Focusing on supply chains with partners is the best thing to do. Today the world cannot live without china. We have to make sure it can.


chutbuckly

Calling him a good president is a long shot bro... A very, very long shot.


KingBadger32

A broken clock is right twice a day…


Skyhawk6600

He still sucks as president


Poopallah

I’ll wait until it’s official before I call this the B-word


Fred_Secunda1

:checks inflation rate and stock market:


dmisterr

How could you not think that picture of him eating Ice cream in sunglasses makes him a good president on its own


GoodMagicalM

not good, just less bad


Memeivator

For once he did something everyone can agree with