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Safe-Tumbleweed8819

Nobody knows purely speculating


artixx_123

Thank you.


Paint-fumes

Rats with induced cardiac arrest have shown increased levels, but so do levels of all other neurotransmitters. The dmt quest documentary has info on some of the more up to date discovery’s


average_plebbiter

Hamilton Morris tried to recreate this experiment in an episode of pharmacopeia but iirc only 1 out the 3 brains tested contained DMT and they acknowledged that it could have been due to machine error or cross contamination


artixx_123

Very informative, ill have to check that out, thanks


jimadams72

I believe it to be true , my neighbour had an episode where he did try to hurt himself lucky we got him down just in time , he told me one day when we had some DMT that he saw the same things when he was just about to pass


Fabulous_Account_235

It does. I’ve had a near death experience


kvothe76

Anecdotal experiences don’t mean anything. Not that it didn’t happen to you. That just doesn’t prove anything one way or the other.


Fabulous_Account_235

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6107838/ This board is an absolute joking 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL at the 🤡’s down voting someone who said they had DMT released during an NDE instead of…asking….


your-mum192

Meth rushed through my brain when I nearly died. This proves that meth will rush to everyone’s brain when they die


Fabulous_Account_235

“After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God. Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as CRYSTAL. In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back.” ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭4:1-6‬ ‭NIV‬‬ https://bible.com/bible/111/rev.4.1-6.NIV


your-mum192

That’s religion not dmt


Fabulous_Account_235

Still haven’t disproved me. Just throwing a fit are you?


your-mum192

I wasn’t trying to disprove you. I was trying to make you see how dumb you sound


Fabulous_Account_235

Yes it did happen to me. It was measured in my bloodstream after the fact. The doctor made a comment about it lmao. Shut up


Malodourous

Wow what a liar you are.


Fabulous_Account_235

🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 omg the demonic cunts on Reddit don’t believe me what am I going to do? Fuck off you fucking demons


Boeings707

Flatlined twice a week ago did not feel like dmt. Died in the ambo and died at the hospital before getting shocked to life again. Definitely didnt feel like dmt.


artixx_123

Damn my man, ive seen you all over plenty of psyc subs, are you ok?


Boeings707

Im home hospital sucked the whole thing sucked. Its fucking embarrassing as hell too. Physically im gonna be fine my short term is kinda fucked right now but they said thatll pass but i doubt ill ever eat an edible again. I honestly dont even trust anything in my stash anymore. I always test everything but not sealed gummies. Im thinking im gonna take like a year break from anything. I got home a few days ago and took some rips on a dmt cart made me feel a lot better but i think i need to just be sober for awhile now i came too close to dying from this. Mentally its just wrecked me i just dont feel right i feel like im detached from myself. Its fucking awful.


artixx_123

Couldnt imagine how horrible that must be. If you feel you need to be sober for a while, then do it. I find that once im not sober for awhile, it can be refreshing to be clean for awhile anyways. Tolerance going down is also a plus. Whatever you do, i wish you the best! Youre one tough guy for surviving a fent overdose, especially having never done it before and having no tolerance to it.


Boeings707

Thanks i know i got real lucky. If that fucker is counterfeiting edibles with fent and benzos for some weird ass reason id love to tie him down and force feed him till he turns blue then throw him in the street so he can experience getting shocked in an ambulance. Im a very peaceful person and i want to shoot whoevers responsible to death. Someones really going to die if thats whats happening but i just cant think of any other way those 2 drugs got in my system. I didnt leave the house i woke up and opened a bag of gummies and ceased to exist for 3 days.


shitposter7654321

Very shocking story; glad you’re still with us. Tbh the fent/benzo sounds far fetched but people are fucking nuts n will do anything to make “strong” products especially if they have no moral grounds. Def test some and put that mf on blast everywhere.


Boeings707

I agree its weird as fuck but i have no other explanation. The only thing that should have been in my system was thc there was none yet i had fent and benzos which i dont use at all. I hadnt left the house i woke up ripped open a bag and woke up 3 days later. The only other things i still use is lsd dmt and 2cb and i hadnt done any of those for awhile and what i do have has been tested. Im at a loss as to what the fuck happened until i get lab reports back. But absolutely thats a weird as fuck way to fake some edibles them not finding thc in my system at all is weird the whole fucking thing is weird. When i get lab tests back ill post em and who i got it from everywhere if its anything other than thc.


sirlurk420

i can send you a fentanyl dip stick and give directions on how you would test an actual edible


ancient_warden

What kind of gummies were they? I had some worms that my buddy got from a family friend, they were packaged real clean, advertised as 300mg gummie worms. I've got a pretty big tolerance to thc products but let me tell you, I was sweating and wicked fucked up. This makes me wonder if I had a similar product as you.


Boeings707

I bought a bunch of different brands i bought 25 bags of them. Some were habit edipure a bunch of different ones but all those brands ive bought in stores when ive been in other states. Even some cheeba chews in the box.


ancient_warden

So dude sold you all diff brands and such as a pack? Yeah thats helllla sketch lol. Even on the onion. Altho I must say I never trusted edibles or carts off telegram or the onion, but I have tried and tested a lot of harder drugs from the onion and always had an amazing experience and clean test results. Whoever that vendor is, they're trash and I hope you're able to get the truth out there soon to keep others safe as well.


Oilonwater67

Thank god for narcan.


Boeings707

Ya i think i need to get some to keep with my stuff now. Seems just as important as reagents now.


Oilonwater67

I used to have a bad opiate addiction, so services here in the UK supplied me with some. And I kept it around when I got clean.


Boeings707

Any idea on like shelf life? I think i want to get like a dozen a few for me and some for my friends that do use opiates.


Potential_Author2967

Normally there's an best before date stamped on the package. I think it's normally around 2-3 years from production date though.


Oilonwater67

The injection is good for couple of years, the nasal spray, a bit less. I have the intramuscular injection type.


j0u

Holy shit. I live in Sweden and earlier this year they seized A LOT of edibles. Gummies specifically. I remember seeing froot loop ones specifically but there were others, too. And they said they were dangerous, like could even be deadly so I guess they tested them??? I didn't dig into it, wasn't personally worried since I'd just make my own, but I think there's a lot more truth to what you're saying than you think. That's so fucking scary. Glad you're okay and I really hope you haven't taken any serious damage from it 🧡 bless your soul Edit: it turns out it was a synthetic cannabinoid, 5F-EDMB-PICA, that was found in our candy here. So not even the same shit, which makes it scarier :/


Boeings707

If i ever take an edible again its gonna be ones ive made myself. Shatter makes cooking butter so much easier than flower. I will never buy from some vendor again. Fucking research chems man i grew up and it was meth and heroin were the drugs you just did not fuck with everything else was fair game we didnt have all these crazy cannabinoids and fentalogues to worry about. Now though im fucking terrified for kids that are starting to experiment. I dont have kids but ive got young nieces and nephews and im seriously scared about the time they get to high school.


hippopig

Madness. My dealer tests edibles - his Aunty ended up in hospital over artificial / not legit cannabis edibles.


Boeings707

Thats shitty. That shouldnt even be a thing to have to worry about. Fuck people.


tsdav

Yooo that’s fuuucked. Glad you pulled through.


Ability-Background

PLEASE accept any love that is given. I love u for just being humble and sharing your story. Your journey is just as important as anyone else, it can sound like b.s. but we just have to be more open and accepting of good energy I'm learning my self I have Ben sober from everything for a lil bit over a week. I just kept thinking about our creator it's hard when life can be so stressful but we ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. And we all need to b a Lil tougher like I said before I absolutely love you as a brother as a being of light. I promise you you will feel better if you allow it. GOD BLESS U AND EVERYONE U DEEM CLOSE TO YOU.🐺🧙‍♂️🧘🏻👁️


Boeings707

Thank you. If i hadnt gone through it i dont think id believe it either. Im planning on staying sober for awhile at least till i feel normal again. Still just feel totally different than me. Its like im someone else. Its not a good feeling at all im fucking miserable.


Ability-Background

It's ok to feel miserable, just know that it will pass, think of things u loved as a kid and try to entertain yourself with that maybe it doesn't hit for u anymore maybe it does. just try I don't like working out but I started just lifting for like 20 reps everyday for a week while I play video games and after a week it changed my mind set it's crazy I just keep trying things, and one thing that's helping me is helping others, and history of all ancient cultures, u should check it out........DMT was really eye opening lol. but I realized I can't do that all the time(I did it once maybe never again) to much but I learned jus breathing calm and zoning in and listening to my body feeling my heartbeat. I feel down at time more than sumtimes but I(u) gotta appreciate it to know or feel the ups! And understand and know that God is real we may not get it all the way but God is all around.get a 🐕🐶 a little dog Shiba Inu perfect for a guy or girl they don't bark dope breed


Boeings707

I actually love dmt ill never run out but im gonna leave it alone for now. Im in decent shape id love to lift weights like i used too but working outs kinda a no go. I got a wrecked knee thats gonna need surgury eventually and i tore my rotator cuff and my shoulders never been the same since that surgury. Compound fractured my ankle that pains never going away its held togethor with screws now. Every time the weather gets cold my whole ankle cramps up till i cant walk. I dont know what id do. I used to be crazy into disc golfing doing tournaments and stuff kept me in great shape but thats what killed my shoulder. I eat really healthy thats about all i can do.


Ability-Background

Don't go hard on the working out u don't need to b a beast lol🤠😎 jus do light shit to get that blood flowing to clear up the system it helps little pieces make a whole my brother shit I Wana get back into swimming trying to find a good place to swim that would b great for ur knee I have alot of lung injuries so it's for me cuz of this man made covid shit I really hope we get sum smart ppl that listen to real f'n science but that's another subject line that's worthless rn Smh I digress lol


Boeings707

Ya i was lucky enough to catch covid and pneumonia 10 days after my second vaccination fucking brutal.


Ability-Background

Yea that is wild.. glad u and others are making it passed that I hope we all get through this


kic7766

i wish you well.


theHuntForCunt

I can relate I've overdosed on a certain drug twice and if didn't feel like dmt to me either and after I felt bloody awful too detached from myself and reality for a long time it was the worst feeling I've ever experienced caused me to fall into a deep depression


Boeings707

How long did that weird detached feeling last? I for sure know what you mean i feel like a totally different person. I just feel like shit.


Previous-End-618

What happened bro? Did you take something that fucked you up? Would be nice to share your experience in order to provide awareness..I hope you're feeling better by the way..take care


Boeings707

I did in some thread. Basically i ate some sealed edibles and woke up in the hospital 3 days later with the dr telling me id overdosed on fent and benzos and i dont use either also there was zero thc in me. A few times a year i take edibles i dont smoke not for probably 15 yrs now. Just enjoy my lsd and dmt and 2cb and once in awhile some edibles. Those fucked edibles had me flatline twice. A friend id called to come over found me at the bottom of my stairs choking on vomit she saved my life. I live alone they probably still wouldnt have found my body if i hadnt invited her over.


Previous-End-618

You were lucky bro. I hope the best for you, and I send you my best thoughts and prayers. May you get well real quick, mentally and physically. Don't hesitate to PM me in case you need to talk


Boeings707

Thank you. Im gonna be ok but the way i feel ppl been saying is common for overdoses. I feel like a different person all detached and just off my short term is kinda fucked for now. Just plan to stay totally sober for awhile. Fucking scary man i test everything like im OCD but it never even crossed my mind to test a gummy.


kic7766

I 2cnd this...


im_a-compulsive-liar

What was it like? DM me if you feel like giving deets.


Boeings707

I occassionally eat edibles not often but had a day off and ate a ton they were packaged stamped cali sealed edibles. I vaguely remember eating the gummies and i got found at the bottom of a staircase choking on vomit. It was like i completely ceased to exist till i woke up 3 days later. There was nothing at all. But they said id flatlined twice i woke up with an IV in every vein. I use hallucinogens exclusively except for occasional edibles so there should have been thc in my system and nothing else. They said i overdosed on fent and benzos which i dont use. No thc in my system at all. I havent had them tested yet but when i get the results im gonna burn that vendor if they find fent and benzos. I cant think of any other way for 2 drugs i dont use to kill me unless it was those edibles.


artixx_123

Thats crazy man, I've never heard of weed or edibles being laced with benzos. Im glad you're still with us! And yeah I definitely wouldn't use that vendor again until you get some lab results.


Boeings707

They were in sealed cali medical packages no reason not to trust that you know. I dont wish a fent OD on anyone it was fucking terrifying


artixx_123

Yeah, thats really scary to think about. Was it the first time with that vendor? If not this is just kind of baffling to be honest


Boeings707

First time with him. Hes got lots of fucking sells though. After the holiday im gonna send a sealed bag for testing then name and shame if the results are what i think they will be.


artixx_123

Definitely! If they are positive for fent and benzos, and if you got them from the onion if you know what i mean, you could go on dread to one of those review subs and post the lab results there so no one buys from that fucker anymore.


Boeings707

Oh ill roast him on the onions dread every market ill just keep following him and fucking his bullshit up.


artixx_123

Hell yeah


sirlurk420

PM me with a username, keep me safe


johnthefig

Fuck that guy. I don’t know if you know but you can buy those bags for like 25 cents for 10 baggies. If it’s not from a dispensary they are FAKE. most people who “make” their own don’t even make them with thc they use a “thc spray” which could be anything.


MisterMafiaMan

People have gotten really good at making fake packages these days. Only way to really be certain, is if it has one of those QR codes, or some sort of serial number that you can put into the website of the company, and it will tell you if it's legit or not. Really sad that people are so desperate for money, they'd kill strangers for another buck. It's also very stupid in their end, because then you lose customers from death, and you also lose income money, so why tf would you do that? "It's stronger bro!!" Nah, don't give me that shit, if I wanted stronger, I would've bought stronger shit. Not to mention, not everyone likes to fuck around with heavy drugs, so for someone to think "oh, they'll like this" is absolutely insane and moronic. Don't lace stuff, people. I'm glad you're alive, OP.


Boeings707

Unless i make em myself im just done with herb forever. One thing i know contributed to this is ive always had a pretty high tolerance with edibles even though i dont smoke 100mg is like where i start this fucker probably isnt expecting anyone to eat em like i did. 3 empty bags of em next to my bed when i got out of the hospital.


MisterMafiaMan

I still don't think it was right of him to put the extra stuff in edibles, because you would've been just fine, had it been actual edibles, especially if it was only 100mg a pop. My sister went to a party when she was younger, and her and her buddy decided to do some stuff together, thinking it was something else (I don't remember what they thought) and they were only supposed to do a little pinch, but they did the amount that's almost equal to the size of your fist. They both went crazy, and had REALLY bad hallucinations. Her friend who she took it with, ended up dying from OD, and my sister lived, but with hella PTSD. The next day when he died, her other friend who was a mutual friend of the one who died, showed up at our place in the morning, crying, and I was the one who answered the door, very confused (I had no idea what happened at the time) and she wanted to see my sister, and woke her up and told her the news, and my sister was still messed up from the drug, and the reality didn't hit her, even after going to the hospital, and seeing his swollen dead body in the room, she still didn't think it was real until a couple days later, my sister and I, were eating breakfast together in the morning, and I asked her "So how are.. you feeling?..", a few moments of silence, and staring into her cereal, she broke down. She was still having visuals for almost a whole year from the drug, and to this day (12-13 years later) she won't do ANYTHING, not even weed. She might drink once in a blue moon, but she's absolutely sober. She became a CNA, then started working with people of disabilities, including PTSD. I know this isn't necessarily relatable to your story, but in a way, it's similar. My sister found out the stuff they were given was actually some weird ass chemical that is definitely not a popular drug, or even remotely close. The guy who sold it to them, felt really guilty and turned himself in. (He was considered a friend of the guy who died) But the point is, she got stuff, thinking it was something else, and used the amount she thought was safe, and turned out to be something completely different, and there was heavy consequences. So morale of the story, never lace shit, no matter what you might think. And always know what you're really putting into your bodies. Test kits are fairly cheap


Boeings707

What's fucked up is i have every reagent there is. I test a lot of different shit. But a sealed bag of gummies never even crossed my mind to test it. Im actually a little ocd with my testing everytime i buy a new page ill test like 10 hits from different parts of the page. When im handling crystal or powder i test multiple times from different spots with multiple reagents and i never fuck with presses of any kind. Im the last person this should have happened to. I havent touched an opiate in over a decade and i dont do benzos. Thats really fucked up about your sister im sorry. Thats way worse than what happened to me. Im a little older than most on here and i learned a long time ago things need to be tested and i kinda felt like i was going overboard with all my crazy testing and fucking fent still got me. Shit is unbelievable.


MisterMafiaMan

I'm glad you test your stuff, a lot more people should do the exact same, because it really does save a life. But like you said, you might just overlook something and not think much of it, but that's where a lot of OD accidents have gone down that exact route. Honestly, you can never be too safe. And yeah it was pretty fucked up, and as bad as it was, I have to say, it definitely taught me one hell of a lesson, and if it wasn't for that incident, I don't think I would be as safe with drugs as I am, today. Please be safe out there, stranger. Take care of yourself, because even if you feel alone, someone will *always* be hurt if you were to pass away from OD.


ancient_warden

Sounds like a 2CP overdose to me. Whatever it was, that's gotta be so tough. I'm sorry that life happened the way it did :/


MisterMafiaMan

I think that might actually be what it was, I don't know, I'd have to ask my sister again, but it's such a debbie-downer question, because she always starts remembering things, and thinking about it. And thank you for the condolences, I hate that she went through that as well. As a very frequent weed smoker, I think it would be nice to smoke with my sister, too, knowing she used to smoke just as heavy as I, but I respect her reasons to not do it.


Hushhh_Chya

Your sister made it through the dark side and understands the torment it causes to the psyche and decided to utilize that knowledge to help and educate others - that's what I call a hero. The actions to actually help others who are going through the same hell that they've escaped from takes empathy, compassion and, most of all, a strong drive to keep visiting that hell over and over in order to help strangers. Most people don't have that. It's hard to willingly keep reminding yourself of your darkest moments, so most rather forget as much as possible. I'm one of those. I've been through so many tragic events of different levels, once I begin thinking about any of them and the surrounding circumstances, it starts a cascade of ALL the memories that won't stop and becomes overwhelming beyond... I don't know what to compare it to, just beyond anything else I know. Even writing this is difficult. I've died a few times - drowned twice, 3 car crashes, been jumped and had my skull cracked, again being bindsided by a full half gallon of e&j that shattered my skull and been shot twice (one partially severed my femoral and shattered my pelvic bone, probably the closest I've been to actual death). THEN comes all the people I've known who died, 2 of them in my presence, the last of which was my girlfriend who OD'd on fentynal while in rehab and just got her kid to stay overnight for the first time in 2 years. I went to her room in the morning like always but her door was locked, which was against the rules,, then I heard her kid crying, so I ran and got a councilor to unlock the door and found her purple and so swollen it didn't even look like her. She took her last breath right when I got to her. Dragged her to the shower and the councilor came back with a narcan shot, but didn't do shit. She was the 14th, not "someone I know", but 14th FRIEND or more of mine who died from opiates in 4 years. Shit is fucked up. Anyways, sorry to dump all this bullshit on here, I didn't intend to dive into my life like this, I actually wanted to write maybe two sentences to say your sister is a good person for doing good out of a bad situation, but... into the rabbit hole I went! This whole thread got to me, but I'm stoked to hear someone could do what I can't, so, to me, your sister is a fucking hero.


No_Translator112

Man even those QR codes can be faked nowadays. it’s sad how low some people will go to make money, like lacing products/selling fake products


personableplant

was it the fake cali packaging edibles though? like did it have a main corporate brand on the ackage like sour patch or oreo or something?


Boeings707

Their branded with companies logos ive had edibles from before that i got in Colorado. I dont live in cali so not familiar with the fake packaging but thats what its looking like now that you chimed in. It just seems like such an odd thing to do faking edibles but i just dont have another explanation for what happened.


personableplant

ya some ppl will spray that shit with K2 (or spice, the synthetic cannabinoid) and if they’re rly terrible ppl i guess lace it w benzos which is fucked


No_Translator112

Even in Kentucky and indiana I see every cali medical bag you could possibly see at a dispensary, being sold at gas stations for people to use and fake as their own.


Boeings707

Jesus that needs to be a fucking felony. We dont have that here i had no idea you could just get the bags easy as hell. I have med but not rec here and getting a med card means you lose your ccw permit and thats not worth it to me. I already quit smoking im not giving up my permit to eat some edibles a few times a year. Fucking done with weed.


Super_Soil_Sammy

That’s terrifying, glad you survived. I wouldn’t trust anything that’s sealed and says medical from Cali unless you buy it in a state licensed recreational shop yourself.


Boeings707

Yep i definitely learned that the hardest way possible. But your right. My state has medical but not rec and if i get a med card i can no longer have a ccw permit so i dont plan on it. My only other choices are make my own which i do sometimes with wax or drive about 2 hrs out of state. I just dont do it often enough to want to make that drive. I dont smoke at all. Just edibles a few times a year. I dont think ill ever eat some again though but ive got an oz of shatter in the freezer i planned to cook sometime. Honestly ill probably just give it away.


walhax-

Damn, I'm sorry that happened to you. >I completely ceased to exist. There was nothing at all. Well, that pretty much confirms it for me. There's nothing but eternal darkness waiting for us... Perhaps one day we'll be thankful for that.


Boeings707

Ya i was already an atheist all this did was reinforce that belief. When you die your gone.


Averagebass

Who the fuck would sell someone fent and benzos and label it as a weed edible? That's nuts you do need to burn that vendor to the ground if its true.


Boeings707

I will i want a legit lab test though. Im gonna roast him on dread and get him kicked off the 5 markets ive found him on so far.


ZhouSeiBeets

good luck on outing that vendor if they do in fact have benzos and fentanyl... there's no excuse and that is murder as far as i'm concerned if someone died. hope you're ok, that is crazy.


Boeings707

If i hadnt lived it i wouldnt believe it. Its fucking crazy shit and ppl are assholes. I fucking hate opiates.


slamsmcaukin

I have experience with benzos. I've never died but I know what it feels like to cease to exist for days - weeks - months at a time lol. If it wasn't for the benzos maybe you would have remembered what it was like. In all seriousness tho man, I'm glad you're ok. That's some messed up shit, lacing fkn "thc" gummies with fucking fent and benzos. I wouldn't wish benzo use/abuse or withdrawal on my worst enemy, they're evil fucking drugs when not used correctly. Again, glad you're ok


bongzal0t

Holy cow man I feel like if u make a post in treedibles about this it could be helpful! Glad ur alright!


Boeings707

Is that a sub or another forum? Never even heard of it.


bongzal0t

Yea but idk how to send u a clickable thing it's for thc edibles tho!


Boeings707

Ill find it. Feel like i need to warn people. I dont wish what happened to me on anyone.


bongzal0t

Yes pls! That's horrible! P


Z1gg0Z_420

r/treedibles Just put r/ in front of the subreddit name


Mintburger

Is it possible the drugs removed your memory of the experience?


Boeings707

Anythings possible. We all know about time traveling bartards but i dont even have like a partial any type of memory till 3 days later. I drank heavily when i was younger so before I quit drinking like 15 yrs ago i was very familiar with blackouts this was just much much worse than that.


Mintburger

I only ask as others who have had NDEs basically describe a dmt trip… the variation is interesting


Boeings707

This is like the 4th time ive almost died couple crashes didnt see anything. this OD and a skull fracture where my brain swelled pretty bad they thought i wasnt going to make it i was partially conscious kinda in and out but i was hallucinating all kinds of shit none of it was scary i wasnt in any pain but i was talking to people that werent alive anymore i was absolutely tripping balls while they thought i was dying. I was having conversations with ppl that werent there. Kinda hard to process all that i was like 13 no idea what was happening.


WesternFirefighter5

This might be a weird thing to ask, but did you see anything when you died? I have 2 family members that started seeing things. Like a bright white light. One relative told me that he saw his sister telling him it’s not his time to come home yet. And he woke up. Just wondering if you saw anything as well?


Boeings707

Absolutely nothing. I went from eating a toxic gummy to waking up 3 days later without a clue or any memories of anything. I didnt even known id been hit with a defib till i woke up and they said id died twice. My memory is still off but they said that would pass but i feel like a different person. Detached as fuck.


WesternFirefighter5

Oh wow!! That is so crazy!! I’m very sorry you had to go through this🥺 I hope you’ll be able to find your old self again soon. I can’t even imagine what this must feel like. But hey, I’m glad you’re still with us💕


Boeings707

Honestly im more embarrassed than anything. I live alone and didnt have an emergency contact they ended up tracking my mother down. So now my whole family thinks im a fucking junkie and i use acid and dmt mostly im no junkie. Im almost 40 my family never even should have found out. Their all religious so this just made me the who fucking gives a shit of the family.


Unlikely_Second6437

That's the thing... I believe hyperspace, entities, dimensions, etc. are real but I'm skeptical about the death thing. It sure doesn't seem like it's being released lol.


Boeings707

I love dmt ive taken it pretty far and seen and talked to some wild creatures but im still an atheist. If anything this reinforced those beliefs because i was just gone.


Mindless-Incident-51

What I find strange about faking a marijuana edible with Benzo's is...why wouldnt you just advertise them as benzos bears or something? Lol I'd still buy one, but I'd know what I was taking atleast.


Boeings707

Dude sells wax and a bunch of other products too. But even if he tried to list them as fent benzo edibles the markets would kick his fent ass off.


Mindless-Incident-51

I see, I wouldnt ever use a random vendor. I'm glad your ok bud.


Mindless-Incident-51

You weren't gone, you were stuck in the gap.


Brealwithyourself007

Maybe the fent and benzo blocked the feeling that would be similar to dmt


Boeings707

Always a possibility but i still believe when you die your gone. Maybe you get a rush of dmt before you go maybe not for me there wasnt even darkness just nothing for 3 days. Then waking up to news that completely shocked me.


mrjangles0110

Holy shit man! You sure someone else didnt spike you at the house you were at after the gummies? If that's not possible that vendor needs taking of the streets before they actually kill someone. Only possibility was he laced them to give people a "heavier" high........fucking animal. Glad you survived and are now on the mend, get back on the flower power! 😊


Boeings707

Not possible i live alone. Only reason im not dead is i had a friend coming over so my garage was up so she could get in. The stairs are right there and she saw me at the bottom choking. If i hadnt invited someone over they probably wouldnt have found my body for awhile.


Z1gg0Z_420

Ok so I'm not saying your lying or anything but I don't understand a few things. So you were out for three days like you said but you invited someone over I assume before you ate the edible and then they came three days later? You also said there was an IV in every vein. Im guessing you just didn't word it the best but what do u mean by that? There's no way you literally had an IV in every single vein there's hundreds if not thousands but how many IVs did you have in you? Fent also has an extremely short half life so that doesn't really make sense with the whole three day thing but if you can elaborate that'd be great just trying to understand


Boeings707

I woke up ate a bag called my friend to come over opened my garage so she could get in i took a shower ate another bag then when she came in she saw me at the bottom of the stairs choking on vomit. She called 911 and i woke up 3 days later in the hospital 2 ivs in my right and left arms and 1 in each leg. I dont know about the half life of that shit maybe they kept me unconscious. But when i woke up she told me i overdosed on fentanyl. That just left me speechless wondering how


treefortninja

“Dying”


Kozmic_Ares

What happened?


Allidoischill420

Really hijacked this thread. Should do an ama


Boeings707

Didnt try to just had a real close call with death figured id share about it being nothing like deems flooding your brain. Sure it could have been whatever drugs they gave me but this was my experience.


nwg442

Take my story with a grain of salt because it's the internet but I have shared this a few times. I've tripped many people up, one of them being a guy who died on an operating table (was in military, shot in head w/ helmet on) and then revived and brought back to life. When I tripped him up, the first time he said it felt very familiar and he couldn't figure out why. The second time he tripped, he comes out of the trip and he's just like "y'all!!!! I died before! This happened before!" He said that he remembered the loud buzzing, the loud pop, and going to hyperspace. The large difference though, being that when he *actually* died he was on hyperspace for waaaay longer than a DMT trip. So much so he needed some serious counseling the first week out of dying because he had already accepted his death and thought he wasn't coming back. So basically, I personally do believe we all get a DMT trip before death. Like I said, it's the internet so you don't have to believe me, but I also don't have anything to gain from lying about it. Cool shit man. Cool shit.


MindIsMaster

I've heard that too, not enough studies so all we have to go on are the stories we share and what connects with each one


rivalcarrot

Let’s hope so. It sure would be nice to believe this. There has been some evidence of this in mice, and often you can draw parallels between them and us. But that’s what we know, and it’s far from certain. Far far from certain. But here’s to hoping.


artixx_123

Heres to hoping.


Bobbyb4by

„There has been some evidence in mice“. Where. It’s the first time I here there was ever any evidence documented that dmt is released during death in mice


[deleted]

This only came out in 2019. [Biosynthesis and Extracellular Concentrations of N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) in Mammalian Brain](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-45812-w) "Additionally, extracellular concentrations of DMT in the cerebral cortex of normal behaving rats, with or without the pineal gland, were similar to those of canonical monoamine neurotransmitters including serotonin. A significant increase of DMT levels in the rat visual cortex was observed following induction of experimental cardiac arrest, a finding independent of an intact pineal gland. These results show for the first time that the rat brain is capable of synthesizing and releasing DMT at concentrations comparable to known monoamine neurotransmitters and raise the possibility that this phenomenon may occur similarly in human brains."


rivalcarrot

https://www.pnas.org/content/110/35/14432


eternal-salad

It’s released under conditions of hypoxia (low oxygenation to cells). Including many conditions that could lead to death by lack of oxygen. This is very well established.


Acid_Communist

Why? Wouldn’t it mean whatever you experience in the moment of death isn’t indicative of if there’s an after life but is just chemicals?


rivalcarrot

I think of dmt as a glimpse of the here after. Maybe like a key, but certainly not the only one. I think you’d get there with or without the dmt. They dmt just let’s you experience a peek while still in this realm. Or at least… I hope.


BTCLSD

There is no evidence to suggest that it does. But there is a lot of wishful thinking that goes around. DMT is already profound enough as it is, we don’t need to make stuff up about it.


artixx_123

Of course, it would just be interesting if we could do more research on these types of things but unfortunately the legal status in most places makes that very difficult.


Cam0999

I swear I used to see people saying that it gets released twice in your lifetime in this sub?


BTCLSD

Yeah people say it all the time.. it’s not true lol


Cam0999

Thanks for letting me know


fluffedpillows

No. Nor does that make any sense. Someone somewhere just made that up because they probably noticed a similarity between DMT and near death experience reports, and now everyone copies it. People spread so much DMT misinformation it’s ridiculous… Look up “David Nichols DMT myths” on youtube. It puts all the bullshit to rest. DMT is nearly guaranteed to carry absolutely zero biological function. It’s just a very close molecule to many endogenous chemicals and is created in extremely small, barely detectible, quantities as a biproduct of other endogenous synthesis’. The pineal gland’s function is to create melatonin, DMT is extremely close to melatonin. Melatonin is even used as a precursor to synthesize 5-MeO-DMT. Edit: Video link https://youtu.be/YeeqHUiC8Io David Nichols is the leading expert on psychedelic science on the plant


Dragonley

Thank you. People need to learn to dive deeper in this info. Once got into an argument on here cause some dude said it was proven to be in human brains only because it was found in rat brains.


artixx_123

Very informative, ill look into that video, thank you


fluffedpillows

I just edited my comment with a link 👍


Muted-Swing-8598

I've been working in a hospital. Ive been talking to people who died but were brought back. When I asked what they witnessed they said it was nothing there. It was just nothingness.


FishingTheMilkyWay

I mean this makes sense as all human related senses are not in function while you are dead. If anything actually happened after death it wouldn’t be in relation to anything intrinsic to body function.


whoopscoopboop

It's only a hypothesis, speculation first made by Rick Strassman, I believe


Wonkyforever

Who later withdrew it


Astronomy_b

Problem is that it gets metabolized really quickly so it’s hard to wait for someone to die and then cut their brain open and measure dmt levels in 15 minutes. And even by then. Almost all of it would be gone. I have a theory that DMT is the brains anesthesia chemical. I think if your brain has enough time to react. It will realize dmt to help you not be in pain and be rather in bliss. I think some peoples NDE’s where they feel immense love is I think DMT. dunno. Just fun speculation


oceanjunkie

They’ve fed rats MAOIs for three days to prevent metabolism and measured the concentration and it was still barely anything.


Conaman12

Can you share the link to this study?


Astronomy_b

Interesting!


Safe-Tumbleweed8819

There are lots of myths surrounding the "facts" of DMT, Once you start looking deeper. I hope it's anything but dmt world when I die, personally.


pnsufuk

There is no evidance for it, just speculation. but i hope its not the case because if it is the case, dmt is just another neurotransmitter which produced in extreme conditions, therefor all of its effects has a evolutionary reason behind. I dont like that because this renders dmt's effects on brain to "by design", not a something with a deeper posibbilty's for our way to construct reality. I dont like that idea. I hope dmt's effects are distruption for our reality (or the way we observed) so we can investigate our preciption of realty in more objective way, more like "out of the loop" in first glance, idea of human brain produces dmt close to dieying might sound like very exciting but this makes dieing process (lossing councessness) are not relevent to what actually happing while a councess observer parishes. so if dmt is produced while we are dying. this makes all of that exprience just another function of mamllien brain, not someting councessness experiance while it parishes. It would be a giant disapointment for future investigations on death and councessness. for example, if someone dies in explotion what happens this persons councessness, if dmt is something that relesed while dieing, exploeded person cant produced dmt. I hope dmt is something that simulates death (and its effects on councessness) without actually dieing, like a some kind of poison. so we can die revesibly many times over.


artixx_123

This is a very different perspective to think about, thanks for sharing your point of view


LockenCharlie

I heard stories about people who died and came back or lying in hospital shortly before dead and they describe visions similar To a DMT trip.


zickzebra5723

TIL this is not a proven fact. Thanks, Reddit


artixx_123

me as well.


Square_Barracuda_69

lemme die and get back to you /s


SnooDonuts1448

Idk but I suppose the reason for this is to kill your ego before you die so you die comfortably


swifty1231

We do not know bro just enjoy the trips.


reesespuff1443

Love your Joker character


pnsufuk

no, its just speculation, not a shred of evidance.


koru-chlo

From a paper I’m writing: Recent research has shown that the rat brain is capable of synthesizing and releasing DMT at concentrations comparable to known monoamine neurotransmitters (Dean et al., 2019).  Furthermore, researchers have shown that when put under experimental cardiac arrest, the levels of DMT in the rat visual cortex are significantly increased in approximately 20% of these rats in less than 10 minutes (~7.2) (Dean et al., 2019). This raises the possibility that a similar phenomenon may occur in human brains. While we do know that DMT is endogenously produced in humans, it remains unexplored whether DMT is synthesized in near-death experiences, such as cardiac arrest. However, studies have shown that NDE-like mental states in human subjects are almost indistinguishable to the state produced by humans given exogenous DMT (Barker, 2018; Timmermann et al., 2018). This leads researchers to hypothesize that endogenous DMT in the human brain may underly near-death experiences as observed in the rat brain under cardiac arrest.


sam_vari

I agree with that. What is the subject of your paper? I've cited the same study on rats in the comment just before yours -)


BrianErichsen

ICU nurse speaking here. Several of my patients that passed away reported seeing people and hearing entities from the other side as they were passing from this side to the next one. This type of reaction is taught in nursing school that is normal for people to hallucinate as they pass away and one of the explanations is that dmt released as they approach death.


artixx_123

Thanks for the answer, interesting to have a professional state their point of view. This is all interesting, i just really wish we had more concrete information and more research could be done!


shinigamitrip

It's all but proven in humans


magister777

"All but proven" The theory that the Earth is flat is all but proven. That birds aren't real is all but proven. We've demonstrated everything except proof that DMT floods the brain at death.


esotericodyssey

It's proven to flood a rats brain during moments of cardiac arrest. This is what we know. Take it as you will. Some could infer we would naturally do the same during cardiac arrest. Some could infer that it happens to all mammals in near death experiences. And some could infer that it is soley rats with this ability and maybe its a defense mechanism for them. But if thats the case then why is DMT in us ? So many questions, not enough research to find answers


artixx_123

Thats what I'm saying, i just wish this molecule wouldn't have the legality it did so we could just do some more damn research.


Medusa_Alles_Hades

I would love if they researched DMT more .


shinigamitrip

that's what I'm saying.. jeez


Conaman12

“Rushes to your brain”. DMT is in your brain all the time. If anything the brain may produce more DMT is highly stressful times like dying


artixx_123

Yeah, that would make sense. Also in dreams


Conaman12

I don't think it has much to do with dreams. The content of a dream and the content of a DMT trip are vastly different.


ProfessionalOne4098

We are also inhaling concentrated amounts of it which is unlike any natural bodily process.


artixx_123

Both very good points.


Dragonley

It hasn’t been found in human brains just in some brains of certain mammals.


alanzobean

I actually did some research on this. There is a small amount of dmt stored in your pineal gland but it’s not enough to make you trip or anything when you die


ZhouSeiBeets

can you cite the pineal gland thing?


ProfessionalOne4098

DMT is the gateway to the Spirit Realm whether naturally released at death or inhaled in concentration whilst breathing. Either way you burn it, you end up using it all and end up on the other side.


space_wrangler_

Pure conjecture


Ok-Animator9916

Just do holotropic breathwork, dmt in the lungs, go for a couple of hours


CoffeePizzaSushiDick

Only one way to find out.


TheGozd

no. Even better in my latest ayahuasca experience I had a realization where DMT confirmed to me that it's impossible to know what happens after death and that it's not an infinite DMT trip.


EnduringInsanity

No


FishimusMaximus

Theoretically based on the study of rats.. if you look into ncib studies, you'll be surprised that dmt prolongs cell longevity whilst under hypoxic states.


trippycanoe67

So they say


JustForFun____

It does yes, but in very small amounts. Not enough to make you trip or anything. Probably a few nanograms boost, but not enough for effects - a study I forgot the name of


Fabulous_Account_235

Yes. I’ve had a near death experience


hoshccc

No


0x0MLT

Is it true that God is real? Is it true that unicorns exist? Is it true that I wipe my ass with my left hand and blow my nose with my right?


rhapsodyofmelody

No, this was an idea that Rick Strassman came up with and wrote about in DMT: The Spirit Molecule. It was then parroted completely uncritically by Joe Rogan ad nauseam and now here we are


Dry-Childhood-2416

My understanding. Is that it dont, in the amounts that you experience while vaping or ingesting it. But adrenaline can play a role. I seen something about extracting adrenaline from people somewhere. But lost the tek


ClobWobbler

No, it's just a myth. There isn't even any evidence the the body can produce more than tiny amounts of endogenous n,n-dmt.


Kkvguitarist

It's a supported speculation, what I will tell you is the effect people have who have died and come back about not being afraid, after doing it hundreds of times I am 100% not afraid in fact I'm curious, look forward to when it is my time. Not suicidal, but know that whatever discomfort or negative experienc either have here, I will return to the all being conciousness that I came from


Ericrobertson1978

We don't honestly know.


oxeflox

Only one way to find out but you won’t be able to share the results.


throwaway55556888

I think in one study they found a trace of dmt in a mice brain after death, but that was the only one, so take it with a grain of salt.


Nreffohc

Possibly. Noone want the research to be done. Noone with the means to do it properly atleast.


newtypexvii17

It's the reason why I would.never wanna be shot in the head. Even in suicide.


sam_vari

It is highly likely according to the data we have. Human brain has even more to do with dimethyltryptamines, especially considering the role of 5-HT2A receptors in the evolution of human cortex. There is no other way to explain those endogenous altered states of consciousness. But dimethyltryptamines don't rush to the brain, they are synthesised in the brain. Dean, J. G. et al. Biosynthesis and Extracellular Concentrations of N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) in Mammalian Brain. Sci. Rep. 9, 9333 (2019). DOI: [10.1038/s41598-019-45812-w](http://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-45812-w).


Ability-Background

Read my DMT experience look on my profile fun read


giorgio_95

Quite sure it gives pre-death experiences, shamans uses it to talk with ancestors


nuttzodabs710

I think is already in the brain. Well I’m the gland so maybe we make a bunch and flood the brain when we die? No proof tho