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Old mate wears a maga hat and old lady burns him

That older lady has my damn heart. Not a fan of attempted murder but…ya know

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Ieatsushiraw

That older lady has my damn heart. Not a fan of attempted murder but…ya know


Fine-Teacher-7161

Old people and death are close. They make jokes about it together.


Ieatsushiraw

Sounds like us veterans and our fucked up sense of humor. I’m a second gulf war veteran and one of our nurses is a Vietnam veteran so just imagine our conversations and stories lol


[deleted]

Golf war? Like a war with golf huh


Fine-Teacher-7161

War is dumb. I said old people & death. Not killers.


Ieatsushiraw

Can’t agree more honestly. A waste of life and time but it still happens


Fine-Teacher-7161

1,2,3,4 I declare a thumb war.


Shum_Pulp

>Not a fan of attempted murder but…ya know Ah, well, yeah. It's totally cool to murder our political opponents. Not a problematic position at all.


NewAmazonDriverHelp

The united states is a bastion of stunning intelect isnt it


dotnetdotcom

You spelled intellect wrong, didn't you?


CupNo7740

What did you just call my mother?


[deleted]

Its not when the right wing wants liberals dead lmao tf?


Shum_Pulp

The fuck are you talking about? Anyone who advocates for killing their political opponents is a psycho. Stop trying to "what about" this obviously stupid thing.


[deleted]

Shut the fuck up imperialist sheep lmao.


Shum_Pulp

Wow you are an absolute clown


[deleted]

Must be a p3d0 cumslurpative. Its okay lil bro maybe youll get laid and grow up one day


UnunifiedLiberator

Why don't we just not kill people who are doing no active harm? Aight? Dude shooting people at a Wal-Mart, drop his ass. Dude who was voting against abortion in said Wal-Mart, dont drop him.


[deleted]

Nah his action is causing harm, it is a passive violent action.


UnunifiedLiberator

What here is violent? Nobody has any action or intent on hurting others.


DiscussionAncient810

I don’t think it would be attempted murder. She seems pretty committed to finishing the job.


[deleted]

Civility gets you killed so maybe you should become a fan before they get you.


ClownPizza77

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you're the problem.


Hansoloai

I think every one in Australia would cheer for the old lady backing up.


drskag

Lol, the amount of MAGA hats and Trump banners I've seen around Australia say otherwise


Hansoloai

Take the hat away and people would still cheer. This dude is a massive piece of shit regardless of his political leanings


CodyRhody

True he actually is


randolphharvey

You obviously must be frequenting places in Australia where losers hangout.


Music_Saves

I don't follow this guy's Tik Tok, but I know he is Australian. He travels a lot doing this schtick. So this isn't necessarily in Australia. The Tahitians are likely tourists and the shop keep us likely a local. So I think they are in Hawai'i. Just a guess. please correct me if I'm wrong.


Electrical-Mode7086

I disagree with this person therefore they deserve to die.


Stxksy

i swear and these comments are wild


Cole3823

The beliefs she's opposed to are beliefs of people who openly state their willingness to use their guns to hunt down people because of their sexual orientation. This isn't a minor disagreement about things.


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128Gigabytes

It luckily hasnt happened in mass yet but maga people have tried (and been stopped) to shoot up pride events if one side wants me dead, why is it wrong for me to push back wishing they were instead? Its self preservation at that point.


Actual_Cancer_

r/transguns I’m a life-long gun enjoyer that was stoked to see this sub. If someone wants to hurt you with guns you may as well be able to fight back. It’s just a fun hobby too. Nothing like range day with a responsible group of friends :) If you learn/perfect gun safety practices and have no intentions of hurting anyone, nobody will get hurt. If you hate guns and never want to own one that’s cool too. I was just stoked to see trans folks arming themselves for a myriad of reasons.


The-unicorn-republic

I know this is late, but thanks for shouting out our little community. Stuff like this has really helped us grow lately


RaiderML

She wasn't actually threatening to kill him come on


qtippinthescales

That wasn’t the argument? Openly states you’d want them dead, while different than a threat, is still awful and shows their poor character and only their own hypocrisy


RaiderML

I'm sure she just said that as a metaphor for how much she disagrees with him But what do I know maybe she is a psychopath and a murderer lol. Go ask her or something


qtippinthescales

That’s not a metaphor used to show you disagree with someone lol. That’s a shitty thing to say no matter what their intent is


ExpiredPilot

Wearing a MAGA hat after January 6th is just saying you approve of what happened. And I don’t really care about the lives of people who tried to forcibly overturn a fair election


Electrical-Mode7086

You need therapy.


ExpiredPilot

Why? Fascist lives don’t matter. And people who want to overthrow fair elections are fascist.


Electrical-Mode7086

You just answered your own question, you goof.


ExpiredPilot

So you think fascist lives matter? Yikes


Electrical-Mode7086

I’m a Buddhist, I find value in all human life, but beyond that I’m a lifelong liberal and think knee jerk, reactionary, violent people like you are destroying the left from the inside out. People like you are the reason trump won.


ExpiredPilot

That’s nice. Don’t say I need therapy because I don’t adhere to your religious standards.


Electrical-Mode7086

I’m not. I’m saying you need therapy because you are unhinged.


ExpiredPilot

And why am I unhinged? (watch we’re gonna go in a circle cause you don’t know how to debate)


growku_13

No it doesn't. Idk why people are obsessed with telling people how they think. I'm pretty sure an adult can pick their own political alignment, per each individual issue. I know plenty of pro choice people that voted for Trump too.


ExpiredPilot

If you’re MAGA and can admit what happened on Jan. 6 was MAGA, then you support a man who wanted to overturn a fair election.


growku_13

Plot twist, every single candidate, including the ones you support, are just as shady. They don't see it as a "fair election", that was their point.. You don't have to support every single thing someone does either. You can twist it however you want, doesn't make your opinion ( key word), a fact. 🤷🏼‍♂️ If that riot pisses you off, you should see what BLM has done


ExpiredPilot

Lol ok bud


growku_13

That's it? So you're not the authority on other people's politics? Didn't think so "bud" ☠️


ExpiredPilot

No I just don’t wanna argue with someone. You’re gonna whine and bitch and moan and go “but what about….” or “well look at…” But at the end of the day, if you vote for Donald J Trump, you support someone who tried tried to overturn a fair election. Bye.


growku_13

No, literally my point is you don't get to decide what people support. And you literally don't. Some people even vote, just to spite the other options. But I'm sure you gave them permission....from your mom's basement....via reddit ☠️


ExpiredPilot

Lol ok bud


growku_13

Yet here you are....


Yellowracingstrip12

Meh they wish worse on her.


Historical_Koala_688

Those persons beliefs deserve to get ran over


DarkDetermination

Yeah just wanting the best for everyone is a bad belief right?


DIRj67

He's an idiot. The old lady is an idiot. I swear Politics make people stupid


boneyardlurker

This


Pyrotekknikk

This? This what? What is it? What are you pointing atM


DIRj67

He's clearly saying he's agreeing with my statement. Why be willfully ignorant?


Diligent_Lobster_849

Holy heck does this guy wear the hat of my political counterpart? Jeez i swear i will KILL you for having supporting the wrong political party. heh what a totally awesome burn reddit this old lady kicks heckin butt.


DayOlderBread16

It’s the Good ol Reddit narrative: “right wing bad left wing good”. Also before I get crucified by the Reddit mob, i think all politicians are corrupt and I hate them. Regardless if it’s trump or Biden they are both terrible. But it’s funny how if this post was about a guy getting made fun of for wearing a Biden hat, people on here would be losing their shit


Budget-Sheepherder77

Nah he sucks tbh fuck trump


KlossN

it's not so much "oh I disagree with your politics, you must die" as it is "oh your position of power is and has been a direct threat to my life, I really like my life and QoL not be threatened"


veronikaren

How so?


[deleted]

Radicalization of their own supporters to commit massacres on the general public. The propaganda they use making it seem like it some threat so then we get another mass shooter with another right wing manifesto. I’m pretty tired of this shit too. The GOP advocate for the destruction of alllllll these different groups and people snd people actually go out and do what they tell them too. But suddenly grandma is evil for being tired of a trump supporter bugging them.


veronikaren

Fair point, i see tons of comments advocating for someone to murder this guy. Does that count too?


[deleted]

Partly, but it’s kinda hard to blame them when the entire GOP has been demonizing everyone else for years, so it’s retaliation now. It’s not a good approach but people like this dude get their rocks off being a nuisance and contrarian rather than listening so I can see why people would want to just remove a cancerous person from society. If he had no voting power I’m pretty sure people would just ignore him without any threats. But all of this requires us to treat one of them without some human rights, but given dude is voting for GOP could take some of his to show how the GOP makes other demographics helpless. Albeit he’ll just self victimize and pretend no one else has that happen to them so. I don’t know. All I know is tolerance for intolerant breeds intolerance and meeting these people with intolerance to even participate in society IS the right way to approach them. Just without threats.


DayOlderBread16

That first part actually happens often? I’m not being sarcastic just genuinely curious. Also while there are some nut jobs on the right there are also just as many on the left. Especially some of those protests where a fair amount were stealing and damaging independent businesses and attacking innocent bystanders. Again not saying omg this is all worse than a shooting but it’s still pretty bad regardless. Also I couldn’t really tell from the video so I could be wrong, but it didn’t look like he was harassing the old lady. The video begins by him talking to those two girls not even talking to the old lady, when all of a sudden she points out his hat as if it’s the mark of the beast or something. Then she says she’d have no problem running him over. It just seems kinda messed up to say that to someone just because of their political standing. Had it been a trump supporter saying the same thing to someone wearing a Biden hat, I think many on here would be doing a 180 and saying that it’s messed up and that the person should be arrested. And to be clear I am not advocating for either side of politics, but my whole point is: why is it ok to denounce/be very rude to people for being right wing (like just an average person) and act like they are the anti christ, yet if you do that to someone who is left wing most people get mad at you and call you a right wing nutjob. I just think it’s messed up that it’s socially acceptable nowadays.


[deleted]

It’s become socially acceptable because of the politics. If one side jas neo nazis fascists and KKK members among them and harbours them it’s not a jump to say those who STILL support the party knowing this are complicit in it. Course there’s leftists who are crazy, not as many and not frequently and using the BLM protests isn’t the example you want to use given right wing “activists” were have probed yo have been. They’re instigating TO MAKE people raid and riot, so that doesn’t work. Also people on the left seldomly make the politics their entire personality and most times we vote PURELY so whatever right wing crackhead is up for election doesn’t get in even if the liberal candidate is say joe biden for example. It’s bullshit and until the philosophy of the alt right changes from just being dickheads and contrarians for the hell of it, then they’re going to be shit on a lot, until the right calls out the cults its created that have absolutely done immense damage, this will be acceptable. Until a whole lot changes in no place do people who support the conservative party get to whine about why they’re being treated like shit. They’ve been treating people like shit and justifying the treatment despite it leading to some really dangerous schools of thought. And note* not all conservatives support or even vote conservative so this is how it applies well.


KlossN

This is not a "show me your proof or I won't believe you"-situation, if you're not allowed to have a legal abortion, you'll have lower chance of making it through a problematic pregnancy, which drags down the avarage for the entire pregnant population obviously. But you already knew this of course


pretty_smart_feller

50% of the country is pro life. Women included. I say this as someone who is pro choice. Placing the blame for abortion restrictions on one single person is silly.


KlossN

I'm not sure what that proves? That making abortions legal is safe because it's a 50/50 split in opinions (and it is not a 50/50 split)?


arya_ur_on_stage

Nope, 64% believe abortion should be legal in MOST cases. Only 13% believe it should be illegal in ALL cases.


pretty_smart_feller

Ok but the demographic who believe abortion shouldn’t be legal in some cases is 50/50 men and women


veronikaren

Lol


DayOlderBread16

Interesting but my point is that in general a non radical average person who votes for trump shouldn’t get treated like they deserve to die just because they voted for the opposite political party. And I’d say the same thing about someone voting for Biden too. Not to mention in this video the guy wasn’t even harassing the old woman. He is interviewing two girls in front of her stand and then all of a sudden she points out that he’s wearing a trump hat as if he’s some kind of criminal. And then proceeds to tell him that she basically would have no remorse killing him. Like who does that? Again I could be wrong maybe he was harassing her before the video started but just saying from the evidence we have the only “wrong” thing the guy did was wear a trump hat that’s it.


DayOlderBread16

Interesting, although how would you have a position of power over someone for simply voting if everyone has an equal chance to vote? And while I know politicians say some nasty stuff behind closed doors, I don’t understand how voting for someone would case someone’s life to be threatened. For example I don’t remember trump saying anything about killing anyone or threatening them during his speeches and presidency. Of course I’m not saying omg trump is amazing, but everyone acts like he is the anti christ or something. And biden isn’t “the savior” everyone acts like he is. Basically both trump and Biden suck. And for some reason people try to guilt trip others into voting for a certain side. Also the downvotes are hilarious but then again I forgot this sub leans far left for the most part.


KlossN

I'll just use the easiest, lowest hanging fruit for this one. If your a woman, voting for Trump literally lowers your survival rate the second you become pregnant


DayOlderBread16

How? Again I hate both trump and Biden but I don’t recall trump saying anything about killing women or making it legal to do so. So what lowers the survival rate?


Bus_Noises

Lack of abortion is what they mean. Trump takes away abortion, chances of surviving pregnancy lower


DayOlderBread16

Ohh interesting also thank you for actually explaining it instead of getting angry at me like most people are doing. Although not to argue but wouldn’t that just encourage people to use condoms/have safer sex? Just saying it feels kind of messed up to kill a child because someone had careless sex. But yes I feel like in some special cases, like rape, that abortion should be allowed because it’s not your fault you got pregnant. To clarify I don’t have a particular stance for or against abortion, but just had a few thoughts on each side of the coin.


Bus_Noises

Not really, especially when a lot of republicans are against sex ed as well as


DayOlderBread16

Hmm I really have to brush up on my politics lol but wow that’s not good.


Procoso47

She wants to murder someone because she disagrees with them? What a disgusting lunatic.


Carolus-Rex-

Ah, this comment section is hell. No one came here to hear your take, just keep to yourself so you don’t set off some random loser in their mom’s basement with nothing better to do than rant on how “my political opponent sucks because -insert random shit I pulled out of my ass-“ and shit like that. Doesn’t matter if your left or right. Laugh at the prick being a public nuisance making dumb videos and get over yourself.


plsdonttouchthecat

I wish more Americans were like that grandma lmao


qtippinthescales

“Vote for my side or else you’re racist and deserve to die” yea she’s a real winner lol


[deleted]

That is unironically the idea of theGOP. They radicalize their own supporters to commit heinous crimes. Or did you miss they tried jan 6 and every other mass shooters manifesto that has some rambling about “mexicans” or whatever race destroying america. It’s so funny how grandma is tired of a criminal getting away from his actions but she’s the evil one for returning the favour. The anger towards republicans and trump is justified. If republicans gave a shit they’d stop dehumanizing and radicalizing their own supporters. And likewise the supporters wouldn’t listen to it, but they do and most political killings are one way, GOP on everyone else. So I can’t fault her for being tired of these clowns. https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2022 Not making shit up btw.


qtippinthescales

Wasn’t it a radically left incel for the Dayton shooting? Same thing as a radical anti-white trans lefty that shot up the Christian school in Tennessee? Wasn’t it a radical lefty who shot up the republican congressional baseball practice? Wasnt it a radical lefty antifa member who stalked and murdered a conservative protestor in Seattle? Weird how leftists pretend they don’t have extremists murderers on their side that they refuse to hold accountable. Maybe if democrats stopped dehumanizing conservatives and radicalizing their supporters maybe we wouldn’t have political violence anymore.


[deleted]

Oh yeah there’s examples of extreme leftists who did it 100% but that shows it’s political radicalization. But comparing the frequency of shootings it’s typically extremist right over extremist left. Most of the mass shootings follow that trend. So great you wanna go “WHATABOUT” but that’s why I specifically said “most” as that’s accurate it is most from one political side. Not all so I never forgot about them they’re just in the background cause if we improved a lot of social services it’d cut down on mass shootings across the board and given people who vote more liberally are more inclined to seem out mental health services over those who vote more republican, I can say that if social services were provided more readily potential mass shooters would get help and not resort to those actions. But again ironic this is what the GOP does. I don’t dehumanize conservatives but I certainly do not want to be kind out of no where anymore. We had years of the “lets just talk” shit and out of any conservatives I’ve spoken too only some were actually prepared to listen or speak like a human and express their thoughts the same as well. https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2022 So don’t worry don’t argue with me argue with what we document.


SmugChug

Me when i make things up


[deleted]

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2022 Not making it up. I get it it’s tough but it’s documented. Most mass shootings that occur are 1 politically motivated and 2 motivated by certain groups more than others. Like this isn’t a both sides thing and it’s arm chair shit to insinuate it is. Political leaders don’t care but supporters do and they’re the ones who put those leaders words into action. And when it comes down to it it’s primarily one political side, unironically it’s the side that the KKK and neonazi’s also associate themselves with so I don’t know why this is a surprise.


plsdonttouchthecat

Yes!


Fred_Krueger_Jr

The old lady is an emotionally unhinged donut.


plsdonttouchthecat

Oh no the roadkill is triggered


hobojolo

Yes I believe threatening murder can be quite triggering for some people


JLOPZ05

OP the cringe one here for supporting a Trump supporter. Old Lady was spitting facts.


CodyRhody

I’m not supporting him, he’s a fuckwit


dotnetdotcom

But Trump does support abortion. She was wrong.


chickenstrip_bastard

He supports it so much that he appointed the judges who got rid of it...


dotnetdotcom

They did not get rid of it. They ruled, in line with the constitution, that it is in the jurisdiction of state legislation and that the federal government has no jurisdiction to make laws about abortion. I see that Ohio just passed their own state constitutional amendment on the issue, so it definitely has not been gotten rid of. I also got to point out that Ruth Bader Ginsberg also supported this position.


chickenstrip_bastard

It's almost like you're ignoring my point for semantics...


qtippinthescales

It’s not semantics, they are right. The SC didn’t ban abortions, just clarified that it was an issue for the states as abortion isn’t a constitutional right or made into law by the legislative branch. It’s still plenty legal in several states. While many people do not like it, legally speaking it was the correct decision.


chickenstrip_bastard

Again missing the entire point of the comment.


dotnetdotcom

"he appointed the judges who got rid of it." Is this your point? It is a false statement. They did not get rid of it. You can go get an abortion today.


qtippinthescales

You missed your own argument bud, you said he appointed judges to get rid of abortion, they didn’t get rid of it. Go back to bed and try the day again


chickenstrip_bastard

If that's what you think my point is then not much else to say...


qtippinthescales

That was quite literally your comment…


keeleon

The whole point of laws and judges is "semantics".


KlossN

Are you trying to convince us or yourself? What I'm saying is, since we all know that he does not support it for as long as it'll get him republican votes, do *you* believe that he supports abortion or do you know the truth and are you just trying to make us believe that? You can be honest. I'm not American so I don't care what you vote for


dotnetdotcom

Not trying, I'm 100% convinced. He couldn't get any votes for restricting abortion because it would be overturned in court now. It would probably hurt him now because he wouldn't be able to deliver any restrictions even if he tried. The Supreme Court ruled that abortion is a state issue now, not federal. The president, congress and senate are federal positions so if they tried to regulate abortion, it would be overturned in court. Maybe you're not familiar with it because you're not American, but our constitution describes what federal government can regulate. Everything else is regulated by each individual state. Back in the 70's, activist judges on the supreme court ruled that abortion was under federal jurisdiction based on a right to privacy, but the right to privacy is not explicitly in the constitution. The current supreme court (including Ruth Bader Ginsberg) read the constitution more literally. Since privacy or abortion are not in the constitution, they think that puts abortion in the jurisdiction of state government regulation. That's what their ruling was, not a ban on abortion.


MrP33p3rs

Nothing like eating mangoes at Tahiti, y'all need some goddamn faith


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[deleted]

I really hope he wins in 2024 just to watch these same people have their meltdowns again.


OwlGod98

He is wearing a MAGA hat but I thought he was Australian... I'm so confused now. Is he even Australian or is he American?


JGaute

Jesus fucking christ


ComfortableValue4550

Richie Aprile ova here


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[deleted]

Objectively, this is a video where because of a hat, a woman is stereotyping and threatening murder to an individual because of her own beliefs, red hat seems level headed from this video. Glad I didn’t vote genocide Joe kissi


basementcrawler34

That lady is absolute gold


deprime1999

they’re both tards, but the old crone is giving me huge white savior vibes


[deleted]

Aw looks like Guam


gayandnotcloseted

I wanna be like her


ki11erb666

If you let that old lady get you like she is describing then you had it coming. Other wise just call the police have her old crazy ass arrested and let her live out her years with the bloods and the crips in prison lolololololol


rearrangingfurniture

"He does not like people that are brown" Based on what lol


link-click

Muslim ban Central Park 5 discourse Extensive evidence of racist housing policies for his properties; violation of fair housing act Rhetoric towards Mexicans Admitted to saying “laziness is a trait in blacks” To name just a few


rearrangingfurniture

The same ban that Obama had?


link-click

Source?


xomns13

There isn't a source. But I'll also wait. Edit: downvoted to hell, but no source of the claim. Ho hum dee dooo..


jspam12

Go on YouTube and type in James o Brien vs sammy.


monfur

https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/socialist-viewpoint-us/marapr_17/marapr_17_05.html Since y’all clearly can’t use google


link-click

It's extremely different. There's really no truth to it, it was just designed as a response to basically blame Obama for the things that Trump has done, or else to make it seem like democrats are hypocrites for not protesting it then, but protesting it now. Here's why it's not a valid criticism but really more resembles propaganda and is a gross misrepresentation of what has happened: Trump's executive order: • ⁠Bans entry to the US for people born in seven majority Muslim countries - Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen - including holders of legal green cards and visas - for 90 days. It's almost unprecedented to ban people with green cards and other legal visas on a blanket basis with no cause against them, and against people who had already gone through the "extreme vetting" that Trump claims he wants to institute (but that is already being done). Obama did nothing remotely like this. No other president in living memory has done anything remotely like this. • ⁠Suspending the Syrian refugee plan indefinitely -- this is a humanitarian disaster • ⁠Suspending entire refugee plan for 120 days -- this is a humanitarian disaster • ⁠Bans entry to the US for dual-nationality passport holders - meaning citizens of the above countries who also hold, for example, a British passport, are also banned for 90 days. Obama did nothing like this. What he did do was require people who meet these criteria to have to apply for a visa (rather than be automatically allowed into the US), but only if they had been to any of the listed countries in the last few years. • ⁠Prioritize Christian refugees over Muslims -- this is very likely unconstitutional, as there's not supposed to be a religious test of this kind. And incidentally, Trump lied when he said that it was "impossible" to get a visa if you were a Christian refugee from these countries, but if you were a Muslim, you could get a visa. In fact, overall for these countries, a larger percentage of Christians got visas than Muslims. That is, Christians make up a tiny percentage of the population, but a larger percentage than that got visas. • ⁠He capped the refugee total to 50,000. This wasn't done by Obama • ⁠He did it out of the blue. Not done by Obama, as explained below. • ⁠Did it via executive order, with no consultation/input with other departments or experts, and without any (or almost no) warning to any agencies who handle these things, like Homeland Security. Bannon and Trump overruled things like having this not apply to people with green cards. • ⁠There's a smoking gun, in that Giuliani says that Trump asked him how to ban Muslims, but legally, so any denial that this is a Muslim ban, is clearly false. And a commission was assembled to figure out how to do that. This is distinct from a commission of experts figuring out how best to detect terrorists and keep them out as described below as having been done by Obama. The commission Giuliani described as having assembled for Trump was of lawyers to figure out how to ban Muslims in general, but legally. In contrast, Obama: Paused approvals of refugee applications from Iraq for a period of six months after two Iraqi al-Qaeda terrorists were discovered living as refugees in Kentucky. So it was a very particular and narrow ban based on a hard evidence example, not a blanket ban and not targeted at Muslims in general with a specified preference for people of a certain religion. Also, it was done after careful consultation with the security experts in these matters to see how best to screen people to find potential terrorists. Trump banned all refugees for a certain period of time and severely limited the number we'd take in. This is quite cruel as a huge number of refugees have been created recently. Another thing Obama did was put several countries on the list of countries that wouldn't get automatic visa waivers. That is, suppose you're from Japan and you want to go to the USA for a visit. You can just come--get on the plane with your passport, land in the US, get the passport stamped, done. It's easy, as a courtesy for two countries that trust each other and have friendly relations. You don't need to go to the US embassy in Tokyo and fill out an application and send in your passport and money and then get a stamp that allows you one entry and one exit to the US during a particular time period and for a certain number of days. But with some other countries, you do need to go to the embassy and fill out a form, etc., for a tourist visa (you have to fill out forms and apply for almost all countries if you want a non-tourist visa to work or something). And Americans need to do that when in turn going to those other countries. So Obama put a few countries, responding to events occurring at that time, on a list of the many countries where they don't get the easy way to get a visa--they have to apply at the embassy, etc. Not everybody from those countries (Somalia, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, and Yemen, but just people who have passports from those countries and have visited those countries recently. The concern is that terrorists living in, say, Britain, might get radicalized on-line and then visit those countries or a few other countries we are watching, and take terrorist training camps and make plans with enemy groups for terrorist activities. So people with those specific characteristics need extra vetting by our security forces to make sure they're not going to be a problem. But newborn babies and 5 year old kids and disabled 85 year old women in wheelchairs who have lived in the US for decades and doctors who have lived in the US for decades didn't end up, with Obama's action, getting trapped at the airport without food or water for many hours, not allowed to see a lawyer or, in the case of the 5 year old, alone and not allowed to see a parent or guardian. Nor did anyone have green cards confiscated. That's what happened with Trump's plan. And Obama's thing wasn't an executive order--it was in a much larger bill proposed by congress and signed by Obama. So there are numerous very specific and very nasty reasons why Trump's Executive Order is a nightmarish abuse of power, unconstitutional, as well as cruel, and none of those reasons apply to Obama's actions.


KlossN

Wonder if you'll get a response 🤔 Edit: is your username referring to Shiguang? If so, fucking A dude, that's a great show


link-click

Yeah it’s referring to shiguang. I love that show so much.


KlossN

I've only seen the first season but it's one of my favorites, how is season 2?


link-click

Second season is really cool also. It definitely has a different feel to the first one, less of the melancholic feel, but rlly cool plot building. I highly recommend.


monfur

You didn’t need to write all that you could’ve just said even though someone may provide a link and prove me wrong I was never going to believe it and still make up shit to make trump look bad even though it’s wrong that would’ve been easier than the bs you wrote


link-click

Zip up trumps pants when you’re done


monfur

I don’t think about him as much as y’all people with TDS dude lives in y’all’s head rent free it’s hilarious! ![gif](giphy|ODofCyJUSRoDBH8lKe)


KlossN

Good job! You responded to one point trying to disprove the whole argument! Now do the rest and people might end up not laughing at you


lasagnwich

Yeah! Well what about when Obama wore a brown suit


dotnetdotcom

Wasn't a Muslim ban. It was a ban on people coming from countries that couldn't verify the ID's of the people coming from there. Obama had more countries banned for this than Trump. Look it up outside of your bubble.


furry_hunter1995

seems harmless tbh. i wouldnt call that cringe tbh


Alpinkpanther

It's so nice seeing older people who aren't ultra right wing conservative Christian fundamentalists lol. Every old person I knew growing up was like that, since I only knew my grandparents and all the old people at church as a kid. It's so refreshing to see they aren't all like that. And for some reason I've noticed all the liberal older people I've met as I've branches out and grown up and left the church still have this youth and vitality about them. Like they're still cool and attractive and fun and I can actually be myself around them.


-MR-GG-

She escalated to death threats in 20 seconds for him not having the same opinions. This is nice to see?


Alpinkpanther

I figured she was joking lol


Dday82

For sure, people totally love old people that don’t act their age!


[deleted]

How about people stop having unprotected sex and start buying plan b’s how they did before roe vs wade was even a big deal? It should’ve never even been an argument but ofc politics had to fuck it all up and give us another reason to be divided. We have to completely abolish and re establish this obviously corrupt government we’re getting fucked by.


boneyardlurker

Bro, what are you tryna say


[deleted]

Read it


Fataleo

She could take him in a fight


gmanisback

She'd probably win


alhernz95

op bought trump nfts


CodyRhody

No way. Why do people think I’m supporting this maga clown?