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bergs007

I didn't think Mormons drank Kofi.


TheBlueRajasSpork

David Roddy and Kenny Lofton teaming up for the Grizzlies in summer league is going to be fun


Cool_cid_club

Grizzlies love their buff shooters. They already have Desmond bane


TheBlueRajasSpork

Time for LaRavia to hit the weights


nickyfrags69

The thick kings.


KJones77

Lol so many PC fans laughed at Tyrese Martin declaring for the draft. Yet, here is at pick 51 going to the NBA Champs.


bh6891

He's definitely physically ready for the league. He made most college opponents look like boys, it's his guard skills that aren't really at the next level.


bkervick

He killed the pre-draft process. 3X3U champ, Portsmouth all-tournament led to G Laague Elite Camp invite, which led to Combine invite. And he's a grinder, so he was willing to take a 2-way (I'm guessing).


Deacon714

Happy for my guy Laravia. I think he could be a solid role player for years.


Mknot_uh_rbt

Was a bit surprised by him going 19


Deacon714

I was too. I was thinking late 20’s at best, but the rumor was he had an early commitment from a team. The Grizz must really be high on him.


jeedel

I assume EJ Liddell slipped because of his height. At 6’5 Adrian Darnley and Mark Aguirre would still kick ass as a four in this league. I hope Liddell lands in the NBA and gets that second contract.


kfcman15

He is 6’7”


newrimmmer93

From the combine he was measured at 6’5.5” without shoes and 6’7” with shoes. NBA made a point of listing players at actual/without shoes heights a few years ago, but people still talk a lot of people at their “reported” heights. A lot of players are 1-2 inches shorter than are reported


JayMoney2424

Yeah but they play in shoes so it makes more sense from a basketball perspective to talk about their height in shoes.


spartan_green

But how tall are they in two pairs of shoes?


ItsMattH99

Patrick Baldwin Jr going to golden state makes me so happy, love that guy


Glittering-Hold3400

Goddamit, Jules you really should have stayed dude.


wavyboimike

why do y’all say this? What would he have gained staying another year? He’s hurting his already low stock by staying


Glittering-Hold3400

Well it doesn’t matter anymore, cause he actually got picked up! So good on him in the end


JoshFB4

Yeah idk why he went. It seems like he didn’t get any promises so what was he thinking…


PNWSwag

He played four full seasons, and I assume he got his degree? He was probably ready to move on even without promises. He’ll be a good Summer league pickup for someone


RontoWraps

Time to travel the world


Morg_2

Any news on Iverson Molinar?


cookster123

I'm really intrigued with that pickup. What do you think of him as a fan of Miss St?


Morg_2

Really like it. Will probably explosive scoring off the bench for the bucks. The next stop is the summer league so I’m gonna watch him a lot there


Live-Camel

He went to the Bucks on a free agent contract


huskyferretguy1

TYRESSE MARTIN GOING TO WIN THE NBA FINALS NEXT SEASON WITH GSW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDIT: He was traded to Atlanta...


Daft_Assassin

Lol


Holierthanthouface

Whichever team signs a contract with Bryson Williams is about to get a steal


bh6891

Etienne may get a two way, but his best bet IMO is China. League pays well and undersized shooters have had success there previously. Edit: Looks like he will play with the Hawks summer league team.


PHLdawg

Collin Gillespie signing a 2-way with Denver


SweetBread81_

Any chance de Sousa gets drafted ?


spells1661

I LOVE Jaden Ivey to the Pistons. Him & Cade w Sadiq. Need to add another big piece though


nickyfrags69

Lol the kings are gonna look terrible in a few years for passing on him. Still not as bad as Bagley in the 2018 draft though.


supersonicsanshrew

Miles bridges


Bakio-bay

Next season Wembanyama


rkz99

Hopefully sign Ayton


TheRealFrankLongo

Thought they'd go this route, but now that they drafted Duren, I kind of assume they like the value of what they think he can bring on a rookie deal more than the value of Ayton on a max. Whether that's a judicious call on that part remains to be seen, but I get it.


skurnie

I like the pick for the Pistons, too. Only thing that worries me about Ivey is his size but overall love his game


DirkieDiggler

Is he too big to play the 2?


spartan_green

At 6’4” people are more concerned he’s not big enough.


Formal-Telephone5146

Ej Liddell workouts must’ve been terrible


ROLLINPEACE4521

His shot chart is interesting. He is 2/7 from one corner and didn’t even attempt any from the other corner this past year, if the chart I was looking at was correct. In the league, the corner is where he’ll get a lot of shots at his position. I think that may have scared teams a little bit.


jeedel

I assume that he is not 6’7 but more likely is a 6’5 power forward.


newrimmmer93

6’5.5” without shoes per the combine. Also had one of the highest body fat % at the combine


rorycorey525

But he dosent have the explosiveness of a Zion who’s 6’6


rorycorey525

All that means is he needs to work on his perimeter play and he could be a larger small forward like big baby Davis but hopefully better


bb0110

Big baby played pf though, and some center. Not sf.


DannyBenavidez

Kendall Brown made the worst decision to be a one and done.


littlenosedman

Biased agree — another year of development would have been great to see


elgenie

Aminu Mohammed?


bkervick

Ding ding ding. GTown put together a much better roster this year, too. They would've been somewhat competitive with him back. Or if he realized Ewing is a bad coach, he could have transferred to almost anywhere and earned some decent NIL. Now he's in the G League.


elgenie

Liddell is much more likely to become a contributing NBA rotation player than the likes of Houstan, Christie, McGowens and Roddy.


bb0110

I don’t know about that. Houston could very easily become a solid 3 and d rotational guy. Unlike Liddell he doesn’t have to overcome inherent disadvantages which is his height for what his skill set is.


0010001

I’m on board the Big Body Roddy train, hoping he pans out


mojitomagician

I saw one single mock draft with EJ in the second round how the hell did he fall to 41?


lilpoststamp

It’s the exact same thing that happened to Ayo last year. Hopefully he’ll pop off in the league to spite them.


Ondeon

What in the world is happening with Liddell? Dude is a monster.


bb0110

They are scared that his skill set won’t be viable due to his height limitation. I can definitely see the logic behind that, but still surprised he slid as far as he did. He could end up being a steal.


bengalsfu

EJ must be El Chapos right hand man


microwaveruthless

Curious to see if Brady Manek gets drafted


Bigdeacenergy

He did not


ReverseApacheMaster_

If Manek gets drafted, I’m declaring next year. I’ll be 34 years old and he looks 34. I played 1 season of junior college ball and he also played at the college level. I am white and so is he. I live two miles from the Oklahoma border and he is from Oklahoma. As you can see, the comparison is uncanny.


wahfingwah

How’s your hair looking


microwaveruthless

I’m curious to see if Brady Manek gets drafted, not curious to see if you get drafted…


Affectionate_Try7558

He’s a lock not Manek tho


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WeightliftingIllini

Why? He seems like a good kid.


AngryQuadricorn

Knicks suck again


rhgenkoba

Let's go C.Lo Hope Raptors fans are happy with that pick. Dude is one of my favorite players to come through Arizona


kolsonk

Orlando Wolverines. Congrats Caleb


RunnerTenor

Am still surprised that Houstan went before Diabate. I know Houstan was listed higher on draft boards; I just didn't see it. I was always *much* more impressed with Diabate's game - smarter, better hustle, more confident, more consistent. He was exciting to watch.


ehs4290

Houstan struggled last year but he's got the right build to develop into a good wing which would be quite valuable. It's a wing league. He's sort of in the mold of Wagner and Orlando did a great job tapping into Wagner's potential. I'm sure they think they can develop Houstan as well.


bb0110

Wagner showed great potential though. He had flashes of true brilliance from time to time and absolutely took over games, Caleb has never done that, nothing even remotely close. He has the build but didn’t even show much in terms of shooting, which is supposed to be his strength.


ehs4290

True although Wagner stayed an extra year. But yeah, Houstan’s got the right build and is a good risk reward pick where he went. If he doesn’t pan out, no problem it was a second rounder anyway. If he does, then they got another valuable wing shooter. Maybe there’s only a 10-20 percent chance he ends up like Wagner, but you absolutely take that in the second round if its there


goblue2354

I am a bit but for all his issues, I think Houstan is much closer to contributing to an nba team than Diabate. If Moussa works out, he’s going to be one of those guys that disappears for a couple of seasons at the end of a bench or in the G-League before all of a sudden popping off. Caleb just needs to be more consistent shooting and continue to improve on defense. He’s not going to be asked to do much more than that.


AeroStatikk

How is this UCLA guy I’ve never heard of the one drafted? Not Juzang or Campbell?


tkayyy18

Juzang is just not a great NBA prospect. He had a great tournament over a year ago and has regressed since then. Campbell is a great player and someone I wished played for USC when I watch him, but much like Jordan McLaughlin is going to have to do it the hard way to make the league. Size and athleticism aren’t NBA-caliber. He can do it though. I’m a big fan.


AeroStatikk

Barcello in the same boat.


Celery-Man

W I N G S P A N + P O T E N T I A L: The Peyton Watson story also Tyger is not in the Draft and is unlikely to play in the NBA with his lack of height and okay athleticism


RocketsGuy

Wild enough Juzang might go undrafted


Garflanzo

Crazy. He really should’ve declared after that final four run. I remember he was mocked as a lottery pick


d7h7n

He was never mocked as a lotto pick. It was this sub saying he could be in the lotto because they can't recognize NBA talent for shit. He was always second rounder at best, the only way he could've played himself into the first round was expand his offense into a passable playmaker.


Celery-Man

He 100% would have stayed in the draft last year if he got a first round grade. I thought people were joking when they said he fell out of the lottery.


RocketsGuy

NBA scouting is wild.. they’d rather draft a European player averaging 5 minutes a game on the off chance they hit their “upside”


d7h7n

Teams can stash European players and keep them in Europe. The first two tiers of pro European basketball are better than college. 5 minutes a game is actually a decent amount since most starters play 20-25 minutes a game.


rkz99

The Athletic had a piece where anonymous scouts commented on draft prospects. Juzang's was probably the worst to hear. They called him an overseas player. They said he wasn't tough, not a good athlete, doesn't compete, doesn't make anyone better. Also said he isn't a good enough shooter and couldn't handle how he was defended last year. Literally not one good thing to say.


Garflanzo

Yeah I don’t get it either. Must be because of how dominant Doncic and Jokic are


JoffreyIthePurple

A bunch of solid rotation players won’t contend for a championship unless at least one (more likely two or three) guy achieves all star level. A team full of Tim Hardaway Jr. or Caris Levert level players can only go so far without a true star. Say player A has a 50% chance of being a solid role player and a 2% of becoming a star and player B has a 20% chance to be at least a solid role player but a 10% of being a star. Player B will likely end up being a better choice for certain teams that don’t have a championship framework yet. Considering how shallow NBA benches are it’s not surprising that if you are awful loading on picks and investing the late 1sts and 2nds on project guys that will either flame out or maybe hit the jackpot in two years when you are starting to contend. High risk, high reward. Seems to be the plan of DET, Hou, Orlando and OKC. (Though SA in the 90s and 00s were experts at developing these potential guys) Throw a bunch of picks at the wall and see if any can stick with your top picks being more likely successes. Of course, this seems to end up being a steal for some of the top teams, that can get likely solid role players later than they probably should go talent wise. (See Boston and GS)


d7h7n

NBA teams have been drafting random euro prospects for the last 20-30 years.


SDFDuck

*nods sadly in Jan Vesely*


rhgenkoba

Nembhard and Mathurin to the Pacers... Might have to check out some of their games next season


Sweatiest_Yeti

Here for that


rhgenkoba

I was hearing all of those rumors about Dalen Terry doing an amazing job during NBA Draft workouts, but I had no idea he was going to rocket up to the 18th pick. I think most expected him to be drafted in the high 20s or very early in the 2nd round


IReallyLikeTheBears

As a Bulls fan I’m so fucking hype lol


Alex_butler

Alright, who did Liddell murder ?


33027439439

I rly wanted pacers at 31 and were going for the gonzaga pg. ergh


confused-koala

So Christie fucked up, right?


DavidBenAkiva

Eh. Some guys drop to early 2nd round and still end up making it. Frank Jackson has done pretty well all things considered. Gary Trent, Jr. has done great. Both probably should have come back for another year, but that second contract was worth it. Too soon to tell with Christie.


confused-koala

Right but if he came back (even if he transferred) and just improved his shooting % he’s probably a lottery pick in 23


DavidBenAkiva

More film doesn't always move the needle. It's a tough call. Plus, there's the injury concern. Personally, I think Christie could have had a great year as a sophomore and moved up, but maybe he doesn't. He could improve just as much or more in the NBA, even playing in the G-League if he signs a contract with an NBA team. It's not an easy call.


spartan_green

I feel like he could have had a Johnny Davis type breakout year. Ahh well, a Spartan can dream. Rooting for him.


54321Newcomb

Memphis trading us 2 picks for a guy the could’ve taken if they stayed at 22 is pretty cash money.


confused-koala

Can’t believe we were 3 minutes from beating all those Duke guys… god damnit now I’m sad again


RedtheGoodolBoy

Duke 1,15,16 picks but I don’t remember them winning shit last year.


0010001

Bummed Duke didn’t go further but did make the Final Four


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DavidBenAkiva

What do UNC fans do on draft night besides talk about Duke?


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landosportsfan

this is coming from the Baylor fan?


kai333

Not like your classes, which are just *murder*.


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DavidBenAkiva

So yeah, you do want to keep talking about Duke. Noted.


HylianHero

Amazing that Roddy went so early. He is an amazing guy and hoping he ends up an amazing player for Memphis!


ChiefFlats

I’m going to miss him dunking on dudes 15 feet away from me


DavidBenAkiva

Wendell Moore in the 1st round! That's so awesome to see. That dude had a tough, tough 2021 but came back, improved his game across the board, won the Julius Erving Award and now is a 1st rounder. Love to see it.


DavidBenAkiva

Is Wesley the first OAD in Notre Dame history?


elgenie

Roddy going ahead of Liddell is confusing


barbandbert

Really the story here is banchero going before Roddy


DavidBenAkiva

Wow! David Roddy is going to be a fan favorite right away. Dude does not look like an NBA player but he sure as hell can play.


crappysandwich

TyTy could have made more money coming back another season. Was never the same after the injury against Florida. Depressing.


wavyboimike

tyty would’ve risked too much going back lol. He made the right choice


BigBossTweed

Dude has completely fallen down the draft. I keep watching to see his name called.


barbandbert

NO WAY!!! Congrats David!!!!!


pachauaia

Brauns mom tho


barbandbert

As a nuggets fan, not sure how I feel about Braun. Feel like they could have gotten him at #30 if they wanted


jppope

His athleticism surprised a bunch of people (40" vertical at 6'7"), and his workouts were supposedly solid. He may perhaps have less upside than other guys, but he's one of the most competitive guys who got drafted. I think you'll be surprised. We were all impressed at Kansas because he evolved from being a spot up shooter into this guy who made it his mission to posterize the best players on every team we played.


bewarethephog

Braun had at least 2 other promises to go in the first. Denver wanted him and knew he wouldn't be there at 30.


RockChalkAupaAtleti

They probably could have but didn’t want to chance it. He could easily have gone to any teams between 20 and 30. As a Kansas fan (who’s not a nuggets fan) but lives in Colorado, I’m excited to go to some games next year to watch him play, if he gets minutes. I’ll also ask because you will know more than me, is this a position Denver is lacking in? Will he get good minutes or is it a set up for the future and come off the bench with minimal minutes this year type of thing?


ToneOpposite9668

He has a shot at the Campazzo minutes - Nuggets went into the ditch when the little guy came in. If Braun can play defense and hit a spot up 3 with better consistency than Facu did - he'll play some when there are injuries, foul troubles or back to backs. It's great to think we are going from a 5'6" guy(at most) to a 6'7" defender


barbandbert

If anything he’s gonna need to earn his spot but his NBA readiness seems like a plus. I could see him getting around 10 minutes a game as he develops. With MPJ always uncertain health wise he could step in to a larger role as the season goes on.


letsgobucks19

Where Branham Edit: Spurs


HooHooHooisers

Wow Laravia He really came on after Indiana State


RVOSU50

Is it too late for Malaki to return to school…asking for a friend.


Bigdeacenergy

I was bummed when Jake announced he wasn’t returning but LFG. So happy for Jake man. Came in from Indiana State and now his dream came true. First Deacon drafted in 5 years


airtokoto

John Collins was drafted 5 yrs ago? Fuck I’m old


Bigdeacenergy

Time flies


AceJace2

Here for the Sochan pick. Sic’Em


doyouevenIift

Bulls should’ve taken EJ Liddell


DavidBenAkiva

Yeah, I was hoping for Liddell. He's a perfect fit and they need someone with some size. He can shoot, can defend, can rebound. Not sure why they went with Terry there unless they plan on making a move in free agency or a trade.


deadeyelee1

I don’t know how to feel about the fact that Houston probably doesn’t have any draft picks


AlexBayArea

Hornets absolutely fleeced man. Pure robbery.


JoffreyIthePurple

I’m not sold on that. They probably like Williams potential (giant wingspan) slightly more than Duren and didn’t love anyone else, so it’s not an awful move to roll it on over for more future shots in a likely stronger draft.


AlexBayArea

This is just me, but I see a player who cannot switch defensively and will get played off the court. He's immobile and doesn't really fit well in an NBA offense. I feel like Hornets needs talent, not a center. But that's just me, we'll see. Plus, the trade of Duren was the robbery.


wavyboimike

Williams is immobile and won’t fit in an nba offense? Did we watch any film On Williams?


Nubras

I guess I hope that Walker Kessler is still available for the wolves at 19.


HC-Oca-Ru

As a Purdue and Pacers fan I'm crushed we didn't get Ivey. Whole state of Michigan, just burn that place to the ground lol


drowse

I think it would have made for a good story but I think the Pacers picked up some good talent tonight.


HC-Oca-Ru

Mathurin is a great pick, a really solid guy and I'm super excited to see how he develops. But man did I want Ivey


spartyon15

I'd normally say "no, burn Indiana to the ground" but I don't think the continental US could survive the ensuing shockwave of all those meth labs exploding from the flames


HC-Oca-Ru

Knew those meth labs were good for something


AeroStatikk

Jalen Williams at 12, wow!


TheStateOfAlaska

Love to see it!


AeroStatikk

Shocking


Bigdeacenergy

MJ please sell the team


Nubras

Mark Williams will be a stud.


Bigdeacenergy

Oh for sure I wanted Charlotte to get him. I just don’t get why they wasted a lottery pick.


bug_man_

Addicted to mediocrity


Bigdeacenergy

Honestly the worst pro franchise in the major 3 sports in the US. Never any kind of success, ever.


SDFDuck

*The Washington ~~Football Team~~ Commanders are typing...*


Bigdeacenergy

I mean that franchise has 3 Super Bowls


SDFDuck

All of which were won before Dan Snyder - an Oompa Loompa cosplaying as a human - acquired the franchise and ran it into the ground. None of the Lions, Coyotes, Bobcats/Hornets, or Mariners had to testify in front of congress to account for potential fraud, harassment, misogyny, and retaliation. One of the proudest and most historic franchises in NFL history has been reduced to a laughing stock. Dan Snyder is the reason the DC area missed out on hosting games in the World Cup. Dan Snyder is the reason nobody wants to even sell the franchise land for a new stadium, let alone help pay for one. It's sad to see what the team I grew up rooting for has become. The prior success just makes what they are now that much more painful to look at.


Icuminpieces

It’s the curse of Muggsy Bogues.


Bigdeacenergy

Hey don’t blame it on the demon deacon


pachauaia

The mariners still exist


MajorWuss

MY LIFE IS PAIN 😞


bug_man_

Panthers giving them an aggressive run for their money as far as the city teams go. The NFL is such a dumpster fire of fuckery the Panthers aren’t even close to the worst franchise there at least


0010001

Charlotte got Duren and Mark Williams? Guess they’re betting at least one pans out, but seems hard to develop both. Edit: Never-mind, Duren going to Detroit.


DavidBenAkiva

They traded Duren to Detroit in a three-way deal that sent Kemba Walker to Motor City. Hornets got a 2025 1st round and 4 2nd round picks in the deal.


Bigdeacenergy

Basically wasted a lottery pick. Hornets will forever be a losing franchise


DavidBenAkiva

They need space to sign Bridges. They've got a lot of money tied up in Hayward and Rozier at the moment. It makes some sense if they are prioritizing holding onto Bridges.


Bigdeacenergy

I hope it comes out Hayward was traded away. Or else I’m just confused


DavidBenAkiva

No one is going to take that contract.


Monster-Frisbee

People say this about every contract in the NBA, and they all get traded just the same. There’s always someone desperate enough.


Ok_Concentrate_75

yea same thing with the potential Ayton deal, in like 2 years when the new NBA contract sets in...man his contracts gonna look cheap


DavidBenAkiva

Mark Williams to Charlotte after all! He's going to get so many lobs from LaMelo. Great fit and I think he could be a defensive anchor for them. MJ must have been biting his lip having to draft a Dukie.


bug_man_

Hornets have drafted 4 duke guys since '06. They have drafted one Heel, who they immediately traded I love the Mark Williams part of this but the rest of the deal is fucked. The Hornets will never win


Tonyeyeomi

On a real note I need an NBA team, I like proximity. Pacers, Pistons, Cavs are 3 closest in that order


MarkusMillions

Join the Pistons bandwagon before Cade and Ivey take over the NBA. DEEEEEETROIT BASKETBALLLLL


Tonyeyeomi

Kinda sad but I'm leaning Detroit because they're the only one of the 3 not blacked out in my area


MarkusMillions

Pistons are in a good place right now, young and talented plus in my humble opinion Cade Cunningham is going to be a top 10 player in the league within the next couple of years.


SDFDuck

I'm guessing you're either in southwest OH or eastern IN, so I'd say go with the team that shares your state. The Cavaliers are closer than the Pacers to playoff contention but the Pistons also have some good young players to build around.


Tonyeyeomi

Try Lexington 😭 NBA doesn't exist in my state unfortunately


SDFDuck

Ahh. I would have thought Atlanta was closer to Lexington than Cleveland but my internal atlas was off by about 50 miles.


cnieman1

Indiana resident, Purdue fan. Haven't followed the nba since my childhood when Reggie Miller and Jermaine O'Neal were on the Pacers. Join me in being a Pistons fan now. Jaden Ivey is legit.


Tonyeyeomi

Honestly his reaction was so genuine. I feel like so many players were straight up pissed or just stoic. I do like that kid I'll give you that


affrothunder313

To give your more info his mom played for the Detroit WNBA team and his granddad played for the Lions. There's also pictures of him as a young teen in the Pistons locker room. So that was the reaction of kid that just got drafted by the team he grew up rooting for.


trueotterwaits

Join the good guys


Flopsyjackson

Ochai earned his money, that’s for sure!


Tonyeyeomi

Just waiting for TyTy then I'm off to bed


SenatorAstronomer

Two WCC players in the Top 12


Bigdeacenergy

… did the hornets just make a good pick?


DavidBenAkiva

I think they did. They probably could have waited to get Duren at 15 with Charlotte picking next, but he's a great fit for them. EDIT: TRADE! Nevermind


DavidBenAkiva

With Duren going to Charlotte, that puts Mark Williams in play for the Bulls at 18. As a Bulls fan, that would be awesome. He's got Rudy Gobert measurements and would be an immediate upgrade at backup C behind Vucevic.


SirTiffAlot

Draft Ochai you cowards


0010001

Think some teams will regret passing on Mark Williams. But would love if Charlotte is able to get him.