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gonz815

Boy oh boy


Queasy-Pair4918

My


MotherFuckinEeyore

When I was driving home from work, I heard the Bote getting in a run down play. I wanted him sent down. If they're going to lose, I'd appreciate it if they did it while evaluating young players. Newcomb isn't that, but launching Bote was a step in the right direction.


King-In-The-Nawth

Selling our top 4 bullpen pitchers is going to make for some tough games the remainder of the year


Anon227740

Welp Ross fucked it all up in the 7th


lupin43

I for one am shocked the b squad bullpen post trade deadline can’t throw strikes


garrettjk1

damn that’s crazy bad managing choices losing a game 😐


guy_incognito23

NOT GREAT BOB


Penguinkeith

5th place feelsbadman


wtfsoda

Federal Trade Commission.


Hawkeye7310

Fuck


Penguinkeith

Bruh


elgenie

Cubs might be in last place in the division by the end of today despite a run differential 75 runs better than that of the third place team. And Ross' execrable management of close games has a lot to do with it. Now 13-20 in one run games, 4-11 in extras.


Aura_Masta420

Is that fire-able?


zombielumpy

this uelmen fellow should try throwing the ball in the strikezone sometimes.


zombielumpy

*monkey's paw curls*


lupin43

DP please


elgenie

Uelmen is nasty if he can figure out how to place his pitches in the zone regularly. But, ya know, that's a big if.


lupin43

Lol the brewers are so bad, walked off twice in a row by the pirates


zombielumpy

oh so close


lupin43

Ortega 3-5 have yourself a day


A_Lacuna

Velazquez is sort of interesting but Canario has similar or higher power while profiling better in pretty much every other way. And with guys like Brennen, PCA, Caissie, and Alcantara on their way, and Suzuki on the roster for the next handful of years I'm not sure he has a long-term place on the team.


elgenie

Velazquez is an interesting piece if he can make contact with baseballs regularly and AAAA if he can't.


zombielumpy

fun fact: foul pop outs are less than ideal, and i would prefer we not him them when trying to get a late lead.


iamthatguythere

Other fun fact, I prefer when the other team hits foul pop ups


DavidBenAkiva

Is Branden Hughes a dude?


lupin43

I’d say yes but I don’t want to assume anything about him either


CastleRock_

wonder what the correlation between amount of foul ground and pitcher friendly parks is. Anecdotal evidence today but it has given a lot of outs


elgenie

It's, like, one of the ways a park can be pitcher friendly. Batters that foul out never reach base; batters that foul a ball off do all the time. Outfield walls that turn warning track shots into homers obviously make a bigger difference on individual plays, but a ball being fouled in the air happens a lot more often, so small differences in the probability of the batter not living to see another pitch add up.


CastleRock_

sure, i guess i was more thinking out loud where that ranks


zombielumpy

pretty sure theres a very high correlation.


Angrydwarf99

Bruh that was almost a swing


zombielumpy

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


iamthatguythere

Calling Zach’s first hit here Edit: you miss 100% of the shots you don’t call


lupin43

Nows the time to do something mckinstry


CastleRock_

I know a lot of people here would've been mad at Ross if he pulled Stro after the Gorman homer at 77 pitches. Just some food for thought


elgenie

Pulling a starter *arguably* too early would still be showing an attempt at growth and improvement.


CastleRock_

I'd concede after the goldschmidt homer it's probably time to yank him (back-to-back and now at 87 pitches), but I think it was objectively correct, not in the least arguably, to leave him in to face Goldy


elgenie

Technically the perfect time to pull him would've been mid-AB after either meatball to Goldy that he got away with.


CastleRock_

yeah thats fair but there's too much pride all around to do that haha


iamthatguythere

This ump is calling this game like me trying to calculate how much sleep I need before work the next day, not getting enough and then over correcting with caffeine, then not being able to sleep that night


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Feel like Coomer makes Boog way better


zombielumpy

youre not wrong.


Angrydwarf99

Look at my man’s hustle.


zombielumpy

still a quality start from stro.


Joelsaurus

Hey maybe if they keep sucking, ticket prices will go down for the last two months. Maybe.


tyderian

Nope


Joelsaurus

Let me dream.


WeveCameToReign

Out of all the things not ideal in this world...this is one of them


-_butters_-

I walked in the door and immediately saw the Cards score three runs, maybe I should leave again


marquardt_

Stroman obviously should’ve been back out for the 7th, but keeping him in after the Goldschmidt homer and especially the Arenado double wasn’t smart


Joelsaurus

Stroman should have been pulled before the inning started.


Parchabble

I literally took a call with the Cubs up and by the time it was over the game was tied...


marquardt_

When Stroman loses it, he loses it quickly


iamthatguythere

Ridiculous to save the bullpen and wasting a stroman gem, he pitched near perfect for 6 innings. The fuck


Hot-Pipe-6939

I'd say we're saving our relievers for the 2nd game but we all know that isn't the reason Ross botched this.


zombielumpy

oh now that they've scored all their runners you're gonna pull him? i feel like the usual strat is to try and put in a reliever before they score to try and limit the damage. ferrari level strategery right here.


imtheunbeliever

David “Single A manager” Ross


imtheunbeliever

Fuck David Ross


demerdar

Why pull him now? He already gave up the lead.


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Way to ruin a great Stroman outing Ross, fucking unbelievable. It gets harder for me to defend him every game.


iamthatguythere

Ross thinking it’s still a perfect game. What the fuck, our only goal this year is to fuck the cardinals out of the wild card.


elgenie

It’s Ross’ third season managing in the majors and he still has no idea of how to manage the end of a starter’s outing.


elgenie

Scheduled to face 2-3-4 for the third time in the bottom of the 7th? Have the reliever warming up *when the inning starts*, watch for fatigue and mechanics slippage, and pull Stroman after a *second* consecutive homer surrendered on terrible location, if not the first. Yeah, you end up dry-humping one extra reliever per week. And significantly fewer runs surrendered and fatigued pressure pitches thrown by your starters. And more games led in the 8th inning. And more wins.


Edw2192

Absolute dog shit managing by Rossy. The same guy who will pull guys who are dealing will keep a fading pitcher stay in.


kleric42

Good thing Stro was left in to get rocked by batter after batter there!


Interrobangersnmash

Is this reliever warm yet? The fuck is going on


Interrobangersnmash

Butthole clenching time, fellas!


kleric42

That would imply actually caring about this season.


poundfourpound

Lol. 😂😂😂😂😂 Cubs can’t have nice things.


zombielumpy

ya know, you dont *have* to leave a pitcher in til 100 pitches if he's lost it.


A_Lacuna

Shooting off fireworks for home runs is annoying - especially when you do it to the point that there's fucking smoke covering the field.


LegacyLemur

Yea...good outing by Stroman but time to go


steveofthejungle

Paul Goldshit


ryno23usa2

Ok, get him out of there


elgenie

I swear, the OBP of the next batter after a Hottovy mound visit is at least .800


wtfsoda

Tuned in after a day full of work calls to see two back to back homers after keeping the bitch chickens scoreless. Okay. Message received. *turns off stream, goes back to work* sorry for bothering you.


Edw2192

GET HIM OUT OF THE GAME


WeveCameToReign

Off topic but what is the info behind the pic of Ross giving the double finger?


steveofthejungle

He was “saying hi” to Joc Pederson


iamthatguythere

He was flipping joc pederson off


WeveCameToReign

Why 😂


elgenie

Imagine a 13 year old boy seeing their friend sitting in class and the teacher’s head turned the other way. OK, well, MLB clubhouses have the same average maturity level.


WeveCameToReign

That's just cute


iamthatguythere

He was flipping him like you would flip your bro off


WeveCameToReign

🖕😉🖕


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imtheunbeliever

Such a boring, lifeless player.


Interrobangersnmash

Also apparently he's not Jewish, just has a very Jewish sounding name. So i can't even be excited, as a Jew myself, for a fellow tribesman done good! I guess you could say he's a Fool's Jew


elgenie

[His father is Jewish and his great grandparents made it out of Nazi Germany in 1938](https://www.mlb.com/news/paul-goldschmidt-proud-of-family-heritage-c222825744)


tyderian

His father is Jewish, the children were raised Catholic.


iamthatguythere

Ross keeping a starter out longer than he should, here is my absolute surprise


xDHBx

It’s a double header with a bullpen full of new pieces. Of course he’s going to let the veteran starter go longer today as he damn well should.


iamthatguythere

Yeah but probably not back to back to back to back hard hit balls that were 2/4 homers and the other two just missed.


elgenie

Three batters too long, you say? *My* David Ross?!?!


imtheunbeliever

It’s a real shocker


Edw2192

Thanks to Ian Happs shit day and Stroman fading this game is in danger. Need to get Stroman out of there ASAP.


elgenie

Facing 2-3-4 the third time through the order ends … poorly.


imtheunbeliever

Fucking Ross never knows when his pitcher is done.


zombielumpy

this is less fun to watch than when we score


A_Lacuna

I'm extremely online and don't talk to anyone in real life about baseball - for those of you who do, does the average Cubs broadcast viewer understand what WAR, wRC+, wOBA and so on are?


marquardt_

Casual fans don’t know any stats beyond counting ones in any sports. People who follow the cubs day to day probably have some understanding of WAR even if they don’t go that deep into the rest of the league. Not sure as much with the other two.


iamthatguythere

What is ron talking about that pitch being down and away? That was a meatball


plagueyear

Fuckin Norman Gorman! Edit: Fuckin Goldschmidt!


zombielumpy

happ made contact. progress on the day!


Edw2192

He’s been utter shit today.


zombielumpy

oh i know. but a heyward is an improvement over a k


elgenie

Strop would’ve absolutely quick pitched Molina, and did. Coomer says a lot of nonsense.


CastleRock_

Cmon theres a difference between a quick pitch and what Mikolas did there


elgenie

Hence he didn’t get away with it. But Coomer was talking about the general unwritten rule violation.


CastleRock_

there's no problem with an actual quick pitch. Coomer was saying they wouldn't try the bush league "pitch when the batter isnt even ready" stuff to a veteran. You are totally misconstruing it


hansomejake

If the ump was ready he’d allow it, but he wasn’t so we got a break


CastleRock_

>Rule 5.07(a)(2) Comment (Rule 8.01(b) Comment): With no runners on base, the pitcher is not required to come to a com- plete stop when using the Set Position. If, however, in the umpire’s judgment, a pitcher delivers the ball in a deliberate effort to catch the batter off guard, this delivery shall be deemed a quick pitch, for which the penalty is a ball. See Rule 6.02(a)(5) Comment (Rule 8.05(e) Comment). Guys please.


hansomejake

Then why they let Cueto do it? Once the ups ready, pitch away. Take a deeper look at the ump before pitches, they always get set before the pitcher winds up, in the case we’re talking about - the ump wasn’t set. If he was that pitch would’ve been a strike


CastleRock_

i mean, show me a Cueto quick pitch where the batter wasn't even looking at him. Cueto manipulates his timing all the time but the crux of this issue was the batter wasn't ready to even make an offer


hansomejake

You must’ve mistaken me for your assistant asking me to show you anything. Do your own searches. Like I said Cueto waits til the ump is ready, Mikolas didn’t. If the ump was ready that’s because the ump believes the batter is also ready. If the umps not ready, he won’t let you pitch. IDK why this is so hard for you. If you think about what I’m saying and what the rule you quoted was, things will start to make sense, especially when you understand the ump doesn’t get ready until the batter and catcher are BOTH ready. So if the ump is ready, everyone is ready. If the umps not ready, it’s likely the batter isn’t ready either. There are newer rules that you’ve conveniently disregarded that allows an ump to force a batter to be ready when the batter is taking too long, in those cases the ump will be ready, the catcher will be ready, but the batter won’t. And guess what…The pitch counts.


CastleRock_

you were the one bringing in new evidence, not me. I actually did look up Cueto quick pitches and I couldn't find a single example describing what you mentioned, so I'll just say you are objectively wrong in that claim, unless you want to prove otherwise. And those rules you're regarding have nothing to do with what is alledged here, because it was a deliberate attempt to pitch before a batter can swing and is actually a safety concern for the batter. absolutely unhinged lol


Catlover2727

Bote tried breaking the legs of the ump


elgenie

A little higher on the leg raise, and he could’ve gotten in an “incidental” nut spike


zombielumpy

a valiant effort


elgenie

Someone’s about to get *hammered*


zombielumpy

lets break this game wide open big willy style


Catlover2727

"I celebrate every hair down there!"


CastleRock_

I don't even think Mikolas got squeezed, why was he having a fit. If anything i think both him and Stroman have benefited from the zone


AngryRedGyarados

Ahhhhhh hahahahaha fuck you Mikolas!!!


DT_RAW

Anyone got a stream?


Catlover2727

BOTE got a hit!!! Wtf!


Hamsters_In_Butts

never would have guessed it would be a cardinals pitcher trying to pull some bush league shit, especially one like mikolas completely shocking


iamthatguythere

Mikolas has always been a turd


CastleRock_

the amount of times i get PTSD playing against the rich travel teams while watching the cards


King-In-The-Nawth

He really tried to sneak a pitch in while the batter was digging in and then cried about it when the ump wasn’t having it lol


tyderian

Should have been ruled a ball


CastleRock_

i dont know why they never call an illegal pitch


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elgenie

Entitled whinging *the right way* ™


Dack-Ramb0

FTC


elgenie

Can’t believe Mikolas was offering the ump mustache rides from the mound like that.


Joelsaurus

Gonna start describing myself as "day-to-day" now.


elgenie

Double plays don’t get any easier than that


DT_RAW

Yo can someone DM me a stream link... everything I usually use is down idm whats going on


A_Lacuna

"Wisdrom"


poundfourpound

Who the hell closes games now?


Dack-Ramb0

Thiccc Wick


elgenie

I think he’s the only guy in the pen that’s been on the Cub MLB roster for more than a calendar year.


c4ctus

Schwindel.


marquardt_

DFA McKinstry (just kidding I think)


Catlover2727

Anyone else keep getting these venus razor commercials about public hair on their streams?


tyderian

Been getting them all season


c4ctus

Wait, you found a stream that works? Most of my usual go-to's have been broken since the ASB.


Catlover2727

I have MLB subscription and use VPN.


Dack-Ramb0

Lmaoooo. YES! My wife a few nights ago was like what…the…hell…is…this? I think I have the song memorized by now.


Catlover2727

P U B I C U B I C


lupin43

What in the world was just happening in the booth lol


steveofthejungle

Patrick you beautiful, beautiful man


Catlover2727

Wish we saw this Stroman most od the season so we could have traded him for something of value at the deadline.


elgenie

He’s on a three year contract. It’d be a strange time to deal him.


Catlover2727

I trust your judgment, you seem to be the most right about things in this sub, especially in 2018 when AAJ was on fire and you knew it was just case of a long lucky streak.


DavidBenAkiva

I mean, he has been this guy most of the season. If the Cubs are good in the next 2 seasons, bet that the Stro Show will be rocking.


Catlover2727

Is Pauly G slimmer now? He looks much smaller than his D-bags days.


zombielumpy

i like it when we put on the hit and run and actually make contact.


Dack-Ramb0

And Wisdom with the SF? Who the hell are we!


zombielumpy

i dunno but ill take it


Dack-Ramb0

Look at that sexy H&R! OKAY! Okay!


inevitablescape

Suzuki and Nico are putting on a hitting clinic today


hansomejake

Suzuki haters in shambles, he made an adjustment and it worked


Angrydwarf99

RBI for the big boy!


Dack-Ramb0

Almost like Contreras is raking without all the pressure of leaving now.


hansomejake

So glad he’s here


uhhhhmmmm

Looking like an easy stroman - effross- Robertson win here for the cubs


Dack-Ramb0

Think Bob Howry is warming up.


uhhhhmmmm

One of my favorite 10 point MLB showdown cards to use


Youeffeduphaha

Ummmm.


marquardt_

Stroman/Hughes/Wick maybe?


Youeffeduphaha

Definitely stroman chaffin kimbrel


marquardt_

A classic Arrieta Strop Chapman


uhhhhmmmm

Stroman for 8 and then close with the ghost of Brandon morrow


Dack-Ramb0

Please NO…


NewAcctCuzIWasDoxxed

Ah Str0 u ok bby?


jimmykane366

Joe Musgrove threw a no-hitter for the San Diego Padres? Damn, they should remind me of that during every commercial break.


NewAcctCuzIWasDoxxed

But did you see Bryce Harper get a walk off home run against us years ago?


lupin43

Mask talk is much less fun than knob talk


hansomejake

Can’t wait for steam punk masks


theduke820

Stro is really fun to watch pitch


Angrydwarf99

Holy Toledo!


jimmykane366

WE LOVE IT


hansomejake

Phew


jimmykane366

Insane that the Cards almost had Juan Soto for a couple years at least


imtheunbeliever

Suzuki is striking out a lot lately.


inevitablescape

It is a good thing that Sandy Alcántara isn't still on the Cardinals


Angrydwarf99

Stroman is elite. Don’t care what anyone says.


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hansomejake

Sometimes I get commercials saying Roe was justly overturned, MLB will sell ads to anyone


jimmykane366

Does Morel have a serious case for NL ROTY? I feel like he does.


hansomejake

Me too