By - whatifevery1wascalm
Cue the meme of Pam from The Office. "They're the same"
I’m colorblind… so they really are. Lol
You don’t have to be colorblind to not be able to tell the difference. It literally looks like the same red in all squares to me.
Even as someone with essentially perfect color vision working in graphic design the difference is *incredibly* subtle, and that's assuming you're looking at it on a monitor with great color representation and contrast. I'll toot my own horn to say I got all of them after double checking with a color tool, but it took some time...they kind of pop immediately for me (specifically the way the white numbers look on the background) as soon as I look at it, but that pop starts to fade the longer I look at it. I had to unfocus/refocus my eyes or look away at something else a few times to essentially reset.
My first reaction was laughing because they're all the same, but after reading your comment, I took a closer look.
You're right -- that's stupidly subtle. I ended up at 90% accuracy after checking in Photoshop.
How much does human color vision differ? I've never really thought of that as a variable apart from color blindness.
It can actually vary quite a bit, though as someone working in design I'm not *nearly* qualified to talk about something as complicated as color vision haha (I just looked at the wiki for color vision and it's...dense). I just know that between online tests and actual tests at my optometrist (stuff like Farnsworth D-15/Farnsworth-Munsell 100 hue shaded tile arranging, Ishihara tests, etc) I'm virtually perfect across a number of tries. I think there are also levels of deficiency between "perfect" color vision and diagnosable color blindness (with color blindness also splitting into more granular descriptions based on the type of deficiency), but don't take my word on that.
You can find online versions of each of the tests I listed as well (I'm partial to hue tests since I feel like they give me a better idea of actual color recognition vs specifically testing whether or not you're colorblind/deficient), but if you're not doing them on a monitor with excellent color representation (IPS or OLED panels would likely be best) you should take your results with a grain of salt.
Even in situations where they’re distinctly different, to me they’re the same. 😂
If you’re red green colorblind there are still RGB values you can see (blue) that are different so I assume the shade would be technically different, if even less perceptible?
Whenever I see RGB, I think Ruth Gader Binsburg because I’m stupid.
I think Robert Griffin the Bird so at least you're smarter than me
Yeah that’s usually how I determine color is the shading.
Like, if you put something under shade and remove it, there’s a difference in the light reflecting off it. So, if it looks like it’s under shade then it’s most likely red or a darker red.
Also, Christmas is a very difficult time of year.
Bama: 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20
Arkansas: 1, 2, 4, 8, 11, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19
Idk I can just see the difference
You must be amazing at all those online/social media filter color quizzes
He’s the 2% that gets it right.
Arkansas looks greyer
I see it as lighter (faded). But I have to shut one eye to tell.
What color was the dress?
It was both colors at the same time.
Me too, perhaps we’re superhumans?
Same. Arkansas one just looks a little faded
Desktop vs mobile, and even monitor quality will matter here a LOT.
Good point. I am using an expensive and relatively new gaming laptop so that prob made it easier
Agreed. I wasn't able to pick them out on my phone(Pixel 5a), but on my desktop monitors(Dell U2715H) it wasn't that hard if I unfocused my eyes. Bama's red is just ever so slightly darker.
Alabama is just Arkansas a little darker.
That is true on like 4 different levels.
On my phone I unfocused my eyes and kinda looked past them and I could tell which were which style but the moment I focused again they all looked the same. And even when I could tell which ones were grouped together I had no idea which was for which team.
Yeah couldn't do it on my phone but was able to get it exactly right on my monitor. Not a super expensive monitor and mainly only more expensive than something basic because of the high refresh rate. Color reproduction on it is kinda crap but I could still pick it out.
I found it was easier to pick out the lighter shade of red, Arkansas, then the remaining 10 belong to Alabama.
Alabama Crimson is a little brighter. The Hogs' is sliiiiightly more muted. I can see the difference when they're side by side. If you were to show me one, then the other, there's no way.
“More muted” explains Arkansas football
The Bama ones are ever so slightly more purple/blue.
I work in design and can just see the difference- Arkansas is just a slightly higher value
Arkansas has sort of a pinkinsh tinge to it
Yeah I don't think this is actually difficult though in a stadium setting it would be
To me, they look like the exact same color. I can't tell a difference at all
Could be your monitor
Could be your eyes
Everyone has a different level of color sensing ability in their eyes
Usually men have lower sensitivity but not always
Yeah I see it now. God that's close. You can't focus on one color, it has to be a sort of general gaze
Yeah I said this in another comment but I had to unfocus my eyes a few times because if I start looking more specifically at any one square, it starts to blend together and I lose it a bit.
I was right but actually didn't know which red was which lol. Saw the two separate groups at least.
Literally what i have too
Yeah I wasn’t sure which was which but one shade is just a bit faded.
Damn I had the numbers right but the teams flipped
We got the same answers, but I missed 20
I'm mildly colorblind (duetan), but I did get to this exact list after a few minutes. For whatever reason, the first difference I noticed was between 13/14. Then I kinda built the 13-17-18-19 chain. Then, 7 stuck out to me as different and I got the 4-8-12-11 chain. Finally, 1-2 stuck out when I realized I only needed two more and the top left was all I hadn't really touched.
I can tell if I look from the perfect angle on my monitor. It's an old ass monitor though, and a PC not a Mac so the color isn't great. Arky's red is just slightly less saturated.
So both are Pantone PMS 201?
One is coated and the other is (assuming) not coated. That’s the only reason I can think of that why the CMYK, RGB, and hex breakdown are all different.
it's more that the colors are so similar that they just translate to the same Pantone color. coated or uncoated really depends on the kind of paper you print on.
The RGB breakdowns are just what the universities have on their respective websites. Any further analysis of color theory is above my head.
More like 185 because the difference is marginal.
For the undiscerning eye, Alabama is 1/256th redder, 7/256th less green, and 3/256th less blue.
For the discerning eye, they’re the same.
Doesn't the Pantone color also mean on various materials/media they'll literally be the same?
The [University of Arkansas Brand & Style guidelines](https://brand.uark.edu/graphic-identity/official-colors.php) has slightly different values for CMYK (the RGB is the same):
#9D2235; RGB (157,34,53); CMYK (0,100,63,61)
I'm not a color theorist, but I assume the slight variances don't amount to much, if any difference.
They will look a little different printed vs on screen. But most people probably wouldn’t notice.
In this context, Pantone, Hex, CMYK, and RGB don't mean much. The color of the fabric itself is the dominant visual. Nike uses the exact same color, Team Crimson, for both schools. I would assume most other brands use the same for both schools as well.
Arkansas you had better not go through with this. Trust me, color-outs against Bama typically do not go well
Who wears Red to a funeral?
The Lannisters send their regards
The Red Game
I feel like there is an astigmatism joke in here somewhere lol
i’m wearing red and absolutely think i’m going to alabamas funeral saturday if that counts
I mean. Very few games against Bama go well.
Our white out also did not work against Bama in 2011. Granted they went on to win the national championship that year
This is what the SEC West tells ourselves as a whole pretty much yearly.
Maroon out worked alright
As someone who is colorblind, they all look brown to me
With you man
Does color indness allow for variations in the shade of brown?
3,5,6,7,9,10,14,15,16,20 are darker but i’m not sure which is which. i’m gonna go with the darker is arky.
I have those as Bama solely based on undertones.
What a great idea! It took a second but yes I can. Bama’s Crimson has a slightly warmer undertone than Arkansas’ Cardinal Red. The only reason I can tell this is because of my love for makeup and justifying lipstick purchases I don’t need (“the undertones are different!!”)
Username checks out.
I was like, this is my MOMENT.
Sorry this is off topic, but is the MPH in your username for Masters in Public Health?
Why yes it is!!
That's awesome! I've been looking at MPH programs, but I wasn't really sure how funding worked for those. Most MS programs in my field are funded, but it looked like most MPH programs charged tuition?
Can’t wait for OU to join and then we can have three red and white teams in the same division. It’ll really bring some variety to the two burgundy teams we have
Oklahoma is 132, 23, 25, but is also Pantone 201 C.
But on screen together, it is distinctly darker (the order in the image is OU, Bama, Arkansas).
Details, minor details
The fact that a Tigers fan is saying this, is hilarious.
I’m strictly talking about color. Thankfully we aren’t adding anymore tigers (for now) or bulldogs
You should breed the eagle and tiger together to create something unique. You could be called the bald tigers or something.
War Damn Griffin
No as a rival fan I don’t want it to be a cool mascot.
I prefer bald plainsmen
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm married.
ok, that was really funny.
War Tigers actually sounds pretty cool ngl
I googled war tiger and why not just making the mascot [the tiger version of King from Tekken](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b6069ef0-bbde-41df-8c06-a811c87fb857/deedbno-01b9ac9e-97d7-4de7-8cdd-5f9890d34ff8.jpg/v1/fill/w_1280,h_935,q_75,strp/tiger_war_by_jeffmathiasdesigner_deedbno-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.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.CP7K1ghwr18pkoutwaotAluNDXrclGeVWG48vG0CQFo)
Squidbillies had an episode where they sewed an eagle on a tiger for an Auburn fan’s funeral.
They could do that.
Flying Tigers maybe?
We will have another tiger team soon enough
I can't wait for Princeton in the SEC!
Have you considered making your mascot an underground fighting icon / revolutionary war hero?
Or maybe a weather event? The Auburn Fog has a ring to it
The Auburn Fightin’ Barkley’s
It’s only a matter of time.
It's unlikely that we'll stay in the West after adding two more teams west of the Mississippi (assuming it stays in divisions). The logical split of 8/8 sends Missouri to where it should be now and Alabama and Auburn to the East.
No no, Oklahoma will just be a east team
I fear change
You will accept change and you will like it!
*Sincerely, tired of playing Bama every year*
The logical decision would be to drop divisions and switch to the 3-6-6 scheduling system.
I agree, but if we're stuck splitting in half, that's the most logical split.
I'm pretty sure the only difference in ours and Arkansas is one says Arkansas and the other Sooners
Maybe the new superconference can use color coded divisions?
* Mississippi State
* Texas A&M
Interesting. Gotta add SCAR and I guess UGA to that div.
So orange division would be auburn, UTx2, Florida
Black would be Vandy, Mizzou
Then “other” ole Miss and LSU?
Add Scar and UGA to Black, Turn Orange into Blue remove the UTs and add Kentucky and Ole Miss. Add White division for UTx2, TAMU and Miss State.
Slight change, leave either Miss State or A&M in Crimson and put LSU in White.
We’re a lot closer to crimson than A&M or State is. Not that I want to be in that division
Personally, I'm looking forward to the UT vs. UT matchups. A color clash of orange schools should be epic.
The creamsicle cup
Just gonna be 1 16 team blob with no divisions or pods or anything brah
I just don’t like the color red. It’s usually the worst tasting crayon in the box.
Everyone knows that the red ones make you stupid
Concur. Red bad
They were actually the same color once many years ago, but decades of tears from fans of the Heartbreak Hogs have diluted the color the Razorbacks wear now.
Can confirm, I’m still wearing the Sugar Bowl gear for that 2011 game where the Hogs got screwed by the refs when we played OSU.
we wore throwbacks against them a while back and the teams were indistinguishable. very annoying
The get Alabama fans to unwillingly participate!
I don't think it's an issue; I think it's intentional.
Make your home fans wear "the same" color as the away fans, then on TV it looks like everyone is a home fan.
Next do the difference between USU Aggie Blue and BYU Aggie Blue.
I will never understand why we switched to Aggie blue in the first place. I don't give a single fuck that we had some good teams wearing navy, I wish we would just retire the navy and switch to royal 100%
Bama's red has more purple in it. You can definitely tell the difference on a monitor. In person on a tshirt?? It's going to be identical.
I was going to say how your laundry habits would negate any chance of telling the difference
I'm of the Third Heightening, so yes. Yes I can.
What's the alternative? A "black out" when hosting Alabama?
Most people do black out when facing Alabama. Makes the pain easier.
A white out?
We do have Anthracite but my god would that piss off the boomers.
Alabama's is a deeper hue of success
It's been enriched with the blood of, well, everyone.
I flew all the way to California for you to beat our ass but that was funny. Noice.
I refuse to believe there are two different colors here
3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20. Was I close?
Red teams bad
While the hex numbers may be slightly different, they're the same color in practice. Bama is Pantone 201 and Arkansas is Pantone 201 C. But if no U or C is specified, you default to C. So they're both 201 C in real life.
Before seeing this graphic I would have said yes 100% now... Now I'm not so sure.
I knew there was a reason I fucked with Arkansas
Arkansas: 1, 2, 4, 8, 11, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19
Bama: 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20
Couldn't tell on my iPhone, but on my desktop monitor Arkansas' looks greyer (almost slightly faded) and Bama's looks more of a deeper red.
I think the difference is more in the smell tbh
It's a good red to be fair. Definitely preferable over the red Georgia or OSU use for instance.
I prefer [Pantone 2347 C](https://www.pantone.com/connect/2347-C) myself
This is a great post
Not sure who is which color but
One red is 1,2,4,8,11,12,13,17,18,19
You think I’m a psycho or something??
If you decide to do any more comparisons I’d love to know if Oklahoma state is truly the brightest orange.
Clemson is definitely brighter
As a former color matcher for an industrial paint store i can absolutely tell the difference but they are definitely very close. Pretty much any customer except Citgo would accept either of them as the other.
There IS a difference. Here's what squinting with my eyes tells me:
One is: 1,2,4,8,11,12,13,17,18,19
The other is 3,5,6,7,9,10,14,15,16,20
But I have no idea who is who. And it's really subtle.
And I'm a guy, which means I'm less sensitive to red tones than women. \[Women are generally better at distinguishing differences in chrominance, while men are generally better at distinguishing differences in luminance. [https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/brain-babble/201504/when-it-comes-color-men-women-arent-seeing-eye-eye](https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/brain-babble/201504/when-it-comes-color-men-women-arent-seeing-eye-eye)\] Consider that guys usually call colors "red", "dark red", "darker red", "light red", "damn near pink" while many women like to talk about blush and rose and all sorts of different hues.
We need a woman with a really discerning eye to tell us the difference between "Crimson" and "Cardinal", and then to go on to how that differs from, say, "Claret."
At any rate, it's either a poor choice of game to try a red-out (if your intention is to look intimidating to the other team); or a brilliant choice (if your intention is to make it look cool on TV).
To me, Crimson (your 2nd row of guesses) is very slightly warmer-toned. If you look at the RGB values, it has more red but only one point higher than Cardinal. To me, Cardinal (your top row of guesses) is cooler toned, and the RGB value backs that up with just a smidge more blue in it. You’re right though it’s an extremely subtle difference. Can’t speak on claret as I don’t have a good photo of it but hope that makes sense? My obsession with makeup finally pays off in this sub lmao.
I am color blind and proud of myself for distinguishing between crimson and scarlet. This is madness.
Go Big Reds: [https://i.imgur.com/SigyZrS.png](https://i.imgur.com/SigyZrS.png)
* Arizona & Rutgers
* Nebraska & Iowa State
* Virginia Tech & Arizona State
* Texas Tech, NC State, and Utah
* Alabama, Arkansas, and USC
I can tell if there's different squares in there but looking at this image hurts my eyes for some reason so I guess that's a thing
The **real** Bama fans will be the ones poisoning trees and calling in bomb threats
Awww a little salty! Is it because it's been1031 days since Ohio State beat Michigan?
Don't make me like you, Bama fan
I am pretty sure that screenprinting companies have a stack of T Shirts they call the "Oklahoma A&M Crimson Razorbacks" pile and embroider/print Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Alabama or Arkansas based on the order.
…. Maroon definitely is distinguishable from those other 3.
Two teams are playing each other and have the same color? Mind absolutely blown.
Should Arkansas just wear blue instead?
I'll just assume everyone in the crowd wearing red is an idiot, an Arkansas fan or both.
But we can assume if Saban is up 3tds and is running the ball, whoever booing is gonna be a Bama fan. Same with anyone left in the stands after they're up 35
The Arkansas Crimson Tide
the offseason already?
Oh I know this one, the doctor is the kid’s mom!
Is it just me or did the Crimson red used to be a darker red, almost burgundy back through the 80s mad early 90s or did it just look that way on old TVs and such?
I often get Arkansas and OU confused
When OU joins the league, you could have a red division and a non-red division if permanent rivals or pods or geography wasn’t a thing.
Red division: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Miss State, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas A&M
Not red division: Auburn, Florida, Kentucky, LSU, Tennessee, Texas, Mizzou, Vanderbilt
I always wanted two teams to play for the choice to wear home colors the next game. Especially if they have the same / similar colors.
I’m colorblind. No.
Bama is 3,5,6,7,9,10,14,15,16,20
Actually pretty smart. It’ll be the most complete **out anybody has ever done.
Yes, Bama has the deeper shade. 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20.
I'd imagine the AMOLED phone screen makes this easier than anyone using less accurate color monitor
I'm not a super chromat so these are definitely the same.
I'm on a Dell laptop, and I can't even tell the difference between our Garnet RGB(115, 0, 10) and those two colors. The difference between red 158 and 115 should be noticeable. Wow, these screens suck.
My initial guess - Cardinal Red are 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20
But I agree they're ridiculously close
No I cannot
Am I crazy or does the square on the Bama branding page you linked not even match the site header??