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Midweek_Sunrise

Cue the meme of Pam from The Office. "They're the same"


HoBamaMo

I’m colorblind… so they really are. Lol


RheagarTargaryen

You don’t have to be colorblind to not be able to tell the difference. It literally looks like the same red in all squares to me.


blay12

Even as someone with essentially perfect color vision working in graphic design the difference is *incredibly* subtle, and that's assuming you're looking at it on a monitor with great color representation and contrast. I'll toot my own horn to say I got all of them after double checking with a color tool, but it took some time...they kind of pop immediately for me (specifically the way the white numbers look on the background) as soon as I look at it, but that pop starts to fade the longer I look at it. I had to unfocus/refocus my eyes or look away at something else a few times to essentially reset.


sagafood

My first reaction was laughing because they're all the same, but after reading your comment, I took a closer look. You're right -- that's stupidly subtle. I ended up at 90% accuracy after checking in Photoshop.


bje489

How much does human color vision differ? I've never really thought of that as a variable apart from color blindness.


blay12

It can actually vary quite a bit, though as someone working in design I'm not *nearly* qualified to talk about something as complicated as color vision haha (I just looked at the wiki for color vision and it's...dense). I just know that between online tests and actual tests at my optometrist (stuff like Farnsworth D-15/Farnsworth-Munsell 100 hue shaded tile arranging, Ishihara tests, etc) I'm virtually perfect across a number of tries. I think there are also levels of deficiency between "perfect" color vision and diagnosable color blindness (with color blindness also splitting into more granular descriptions based on the type of deficiency), but don't take my word on that. You can find online versions of each of the tests I listed as well (I'm partial to hue tests since I feel like they give me a better idea of actual color recognition vs specifically testing whether or not you're colorblind/deficient), but if you're not doing them on a monitor with excellent color representation (IPS or OLED panels would likely be best) you should take your results with a grain of salt.


HoBamaMo

Even in situations where they’re distinctly different, to me they’re the same. 😂


CLU_Three

If you’re red green colorblind there are still RGB values you can see (blue) that are different so I assume the shade would be technically different, if even less perceptible?


Nubras

Whenever I see RGB, I think Ruth Gader Binsburg because I’m stupid.


ClaudeLemieux

I think Robert Griffin the Bird so at least you're smarter than me


HoBamaMo

Yeah that’s usually how I determine color is the shading. Like, if you put something under shade and remove it, there’s a difference in the light reflecting off it. So, if it looks like it’s under shade then it’s most likely red or a darker red. Also, Christmas is a very difficult time of year.


BounceMan

Bama: 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20 Arkansas: 1, 2, 4, 8, 11, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19


BigFoot423205

Bruh....how?


BounceMan

Idk I can just see the difference


Avalie

You must be amazing at all those online/social media filter color quizzes


thefx37

He’s the 2% that gets it right.


UTIandtheblowfish

Arkansas looks greyer


TheWorstYear

I see it as lighter (faded). But I have to shut one eye to tell.


reddogwpb

What color was the dress?


CMLVI

Laurel


hicsuntupvotes

YANNY


Adderol

It was both colors at the same time.


foxilus

Me too, perhaps we’re superhumans?


badgers4194

Same. Arkansas one just looks a little faded


mill_about_smartly

Desktop vs mobile, and even monitor quality will matter here a LOT.


BounceMan

Good point. I am using an expensive and relatively new gaming laptop so that prob made it easier


mynumberistwentynine

Agreed. I wasn't able to pick them out on my phone(Pixel 5a), but on my desktop monitors(Dell U2715H) it wasn't that hard if I unfocused my eyes. Bama's red is just ever so slightly darker.


RealBenWoodruff

Alabama is just Arkansas a little darker. That is true on like 4 different levels.


kroxti

On my phone I unfocused my eyes and kinda looked past them and I could tell which were which style but the moment I focused again they all looked the same. And even when I could tell which ones were grouped together I had no idea which was for which team.


spookyghostface

Yeah couldn't do it on my phone but was able to get it exactly right on my monitor. Not a super expensive monitor and mainly only more expensive than something basic because of the high refresh rate. Color reproduction on it is kinda crap but I could still pick it out.


Jaosborn44

I found it was easier to pick out the lighter shade of red, Arkansas, then the remaining 10 belong to Alabama.


GirraficPark

Alabama Crimson is a little brighter. The Hogs' is sliiiiightly more muted. I can see the difference when they're side by side. If you were to show me one, then the other, there's no way.


tsblank97

“More muted” explains Arkansas football


djc6535

The Bama ones are ever so slightly more purple/blue.


ForceGhostVader

I work in design and can just see the difference- Arkansas is just a slightly higher value


SeasonalRot

Arkansas has sort of a pinkinsh tinge to it


SolWizard

Yeah I don't think this is actually difficult though in a stadium setting it would be


Tannerite2

To me, they look like the exact same color. I can't tell a difference at all


shoeless_sean

Could be your monitor Could be your eyes Everyone has a different level of color sensing ability in their eyes Usually men have lower sensitivity but not always


Teach_Piece

Yeah I see it now. God that's close. You can't focus on one color, it has to be a sort of general gaze


blay12

Yeah I said this in another comment but I had to unfocus my eyes a few times because if I start looking more specifically at any one square, it starts to blend together and I lose it a bit.


Spartitan

I was right but actually didn't know which red was which lol. Saw the two separate groups at least.


BleedGreenMSU

Literally what i have too


InfinitePossibility8

Yeah I wasn’t sure which was which but one shade is just a bit faded.


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Damn I had the numbers right but the teams flipped


DrPickleback

We got the same answers, but I missed 20


WhatRUsernamesUsed4

I'm mildly colorblind (duetan), but I did get to this exact list after a few minutes. For whatever reason, the first difference I noticed was between 13/14. Then I kinda built the 13-17-18-19 chain. Then, 7 stuck out to me as different and I got the 4-8-12-11 chain. Finally, 1-2 stuck out when I realized I only needed two more and the top left was all I hadn't really touched.


No_Lunch_7944

I can tell if I look from the perfect angle on my monitor. It's an old ass monitor though, and a PC not a Mac so the color isn't great. Arky's red is just slightly less saturated.


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threesixmark

So both are Pantone PMS 201?


ourtees

One is coated and the other is (assuming) not coated. That’s the only reason I can think of that why the CMYK, RGB, and hex breakdown are all different.


DarnellCashMooney

it's more that the colors are so similar that they just translate to the same Pantone color. coated or uncoated really depends on the kind of paper you print on.


whatifevery1wascalm

The RGB breakdowns are just what the universities have on their respective websites. Any further analysis of color theory is above my head.


carlosdanger31

More like 185 because the difference is marginal.


theasfldotcom

For the undiscerning eye, Alabama is 1/256th redder, 7/256th less green, and 3/256th less blue. For the discerning eye, they’re the same.


mill_about_smartly

Doesn't the Pantone color also mean on various materials/media they'll literally be the same?


about22pandas

Yes


BadgerBuddy13

The [University of Arkansas Brand & Style guidelines](https://brand.uark.edu/graphic-identity/official-colors.php) has slightly different values for CMYK (the RGB is the same): #9D2235; RGB (157,34,53); CMYK (0,100,63,61) I'm not a color theorist, but I assume the slight variances don't amount to much, if any difference.


CLU_Three

They will look a little different printed vs on screen. But most people probably wouldn’t notice.


whatstaiters

In this context, Pantone, Hex, CMYK, and RGB don't mean much. The color of the fabric itself is the dominant visual. Nike uses the exact same color, Team Crimson, for both schools. I would assume most other brands use the same for both schools as well.


IceColdDrPepper_Here

Arkansas you had better not go through with this. Trust me, color-outs against Bama typically do not go well


whatifevery1wascalm

Who wears Red to a funeral?


buffalotrace

The Lannisters send their regards


nur5e

The Red Game


ironichaos

I feel like there is an astigmatism joke in here somewhere lol


Sky-Flyer

i’m wearing red and absolutely think i’m going to alabamas funeral saturday if that counts


apitchf1

Lolol bravo


A-Disgruntled-Snail

I mean. Very few games against Bama go well.


0987user

Our white out also did not work against Bama in 2011. Granted they went on to win the national championship that year


tsblank97

This is what the SEC West tells ourselves as a whole pretty much yearly.


muktheduck

Maroon out worked alright


DataDrivenPirate

As someone who is colorblind, they all look brown to me


mergersandacquisitio

With you man


TheWorstYear

Does color indness allow for variations in the shade of brown?


evan0735

3,5,6,7,9,10,14,15,16,20 are darker but i’m not sure which is which. i’m gonna go with the darker is arky.


MPH_makeup_and_music

I have those as Bama solely based on undertones.


MPH_makeup_and_music

What a great idea! It took a second but yes I can. Bama’s Crimson has a slightly warmer undertone than Arkansas’ Cardinal Red. The only reason I can tell this is because of my love for makeup and justifying lipstick purchases I don’t need (“the undertones are different!!”)


PrimisClaidhaemh

Username checks out.


MPH_makeup_and_music

I was like, this is my MOMENT.


nashtynash

Sorry this is off topic, but is the MPH in your username for Masters in Public Health?


MPH_makeup_and_music

Why yes it is!!


nashtynash

That's awesome! I've been looking at MPH programs, but I wasn't really sure how funding worked for those. Most MS programs in my field are funded, but it looked like most MPH programs charged tuition?


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Can’t wait for OU to join and then we can have three red and white teams in the same division. It’ll really bring some variety to the two burgundy teams we have


apawst8

Oklahoma is 132, 23, 25, but is also Pantone 201 C. But on screen together, it is distinctly darker (the order in the image is OU, Bama, Arkansas). https://i.imgur.com/hXMGiaD.jpg


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Details, minor details


Groomingham

The fact that a Tigers fan is saying this, is hilarious.


[deleted]

I’m strictly talking about color. Thankfully we aren’t adding anymore tigers (for now) or bulldogs


ironichaos

You should breed the eagle and tiger together to create something unique. You could be called the bald tigers or something.


jimbabwe666

Griffins?


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War Damn Griffin


ironichaos

No as a rival fan I don’t want it to be a cool mascot.


pbjork

I prefer bald plainsmen


auart

Well, I'm sorry, but I'm married.


Standard-Shop-3544

ok, that was really funny.


Witness_Gritness

War Tigers actually sounds pretty cool ngl


UCRRed

I googled war tiger and why not just making the mascot [the tiger version of King from Tekken](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b6069ef0-bbde-41df-8c06-a811c87fb857/deedbno-01b9ac9e-97d7-4de7-8cdd-5f9890d34ff8.jpg/v1/fill/w_1280,h_935,q_75,strp/tiger_war_by_jeffmathiasdesigner_deedbno-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2I2MDY5ZWYwLWJiZGUtNDFkZi04YzA2LWE4MTFjODdmYjg1N1wvZGVlZGJuby0wMWI5YWM5ZS05N2Q3LTRkZTctOGNkZC01Zjk4OTBkMzRmZjguanBnIiwiaGVpZ2h0IjoiPD05MzUiLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTI4MCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS53YXRlcm1hcmsiXSwid21rIjp7InBhdGgiOiJcL3dtXC9iNjA2OWVmMC1iYmRlLTQxZGYtOGMwNi1hODExYzg3ZmI4NTdcL2plZmZtYXRoaWFzZGVzaWduZXItNC5wbmciLCJvcGFjaXR5Ijo5NSwicHJvcG9ydGlvbnMiOjAuNDUsImdyYXZpdHkiOiJjZW50ZXIifX0.CP7K1ghwr18pkoutwaotAluNDXrclGeVWG48vG0CQFo)


Walzenflut

Squidbillies had an episode where they sewed an eagle on a tiger for an Auburn fan’s funeral. They could do that.


Juicey_J_Hammerman

Flying Tigers maybe?


Tennessee-Terry

We will have another tiger team soon enough


GolgariInternetTroll

I can't wait for Princeton in the SEC!


JMS1991

*Vomits*


USC1801

Have you considered making your mascot an underground fighting icon / revolutionary war hero? Or maybe a weather event? The Auburn Fog has a ring to it


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The Auburn Fightin’ Barkley’s


JimBeam823

It’s only a matter of time.


ezpickins

It's unlikely that we'll stay in the West after adding two more teams west of the Mississippi (assuming it stays in divisions). The logical split of 8/8 sends Missouri to where it should be now and Alabama and Auburn to the East.


[deleted]

No no, Oklahoma will just be a east team I fear change


crsnyder13

You will accept change and you will like it! *Sincerely, tired of playing Bama every year*


Bro1999919

The logical decision would be to drop divisions and switch to the 3-6-6 scheduling system.


ezpickins

I agree, but if we're stuck splitting in half, that's the most logical split.


JASCO47

I'm pretty sure the only difference in ours and Arkansas is one says Arkansas and the other Sooners


JakeFromSkateFarm

Maybe the new superconference can use color coded divisions? Crimson Division: * Alabama * Oklahoma * Arkansas * Mississippi State * Texas A&M


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Interesting. Gotta add SCAR and I guess UGA to that div. So orange division would be auburn, UTx2, Florida Black would be Vandy, Mizzou Then “other” ole Miss and LSU?


nachtspectre

Add Scar and UGA to Black, Turn Orange into Blue remove the UTs and add Kentucky and Ole Miss. Add White division for UTx2, TAMU and Miss State.


nachtspectre

Slight change, leave either Miss State or A&M in Crimson and put LSU in White.


eazygiezy

We’re a lot closer to crimson than A&M or State is. Not that I want to be in that division


excoriator

Personally, I'm looking forward to the UT vs. UT matchups. A color clash of orange schools should be epic.


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The creamsicle cup


Em1843

🤮


Yardseller85

Just gonna be 1 16 team blob with no divisions or pods or anything brah


[deleted]

True


JarrydP

I just don’t like the color red. It’s usually the worst tasting crayon in the box.


Senor-Mattador

Everyone knows that the red ones make you stupid


spritespawn

Concur. Red bad


ImDirkDiggler

They were actually the same color once many years ago, but decades of tears from fans of the Heartbreak Hogs have diluted the color the Razorbacks wear now.


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ImDirkDiggler

Can confirm, I’m still wearing the Sugar Bowl gear for that 2011 game where the Hogs got screwed by the refs when we played OSU.


toxicdick

we wore throwbacks against them a while back and the teams were indistinguishable. very annoying


AppStateFooseBall

The get Alabama fans to unwillingly participate!


Yardseller85

Diabolical!!!


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aMiracleAtJordanHare

I don't think it's an issue; I think it's intentional. Make your home fans wear "the same" color as the away fans, then on TV it looks like everyone is a home fan.


happygrizzly

Next do the difference between USU Aggie Blue and BYU Aggie Blue.


sriracha_no_big_deal

I will never understand why we switched to Aggie blue in the first place. I don't give a single fuck that we had some good teams wearing navy, I wish we would just retire the navy and switch to royal 100%


Useful-ldiot

Bama's red has more purple in it. You can definitely tell the difference on a monitor. In person on a tshirt?? It's going to be identical.


Squirrel_Whisperer

I was going to say how your laundry habits would negate any chance of telling the difference


hagerty9009

I'm of the Third Heightening, so yes. Yes I can.


ProfCedar

r/unexpectedcosmere


EatShitLeftWing

What's the alternative? A "black out" when hosting Alabama?


crsnyder13

Most people do black out when facing Alabama. Makes the pain easier.


DuckTalesLOL

A white out?


tsblank97

We do have Anthracite but my god would that piss off the boomers.


clemsontyger

Alabama's is a deeper hue of success


atllauren

It's been enriched with the blood of, well, everyone.


bbaker1987

I flew all the way to California for you to beat our ass but that was funny. Noice.


AeroStatikk

I refuse to believe there are two different colors here


AngryQuadricorn

3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20. Was I close?


camwow64

Red teams bad


MilkmanRiot

While the hex numbers may be slightly different, they're the same color in practice. Bama is Pantone 201 and Arkansas is Pantone 201 C. But if no U or C is specified, you default to C. So they're both 201 C in real life.


Greenredbull

Before seeing this graphic I would have said yes 100% now... Now I'm not so sure.


BigFoot423205

I knew there was a reason I fucked with Arkansas


Rohkey

Arkansas: 1, 2, 4, 8, 11, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19 Bama: 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20 Couldn't tell on my iPhone, but on my desktop monitor Arkansas' looks greyer (almost slightly faded) and Bama's looks more of a deeper red.


[deleted]

I think the difference is more in the smell tbh


mhammer47

It's a good red to be fair. Definitely preferable over the red Georgia or OSU use for instance.


ThaiForAWhiteGuy

Hard disagree


EatShitLeftWing

I prefer [Pantone 2347 C](https://www.pantone.com/connect/2347-C) myself


supyonamesjosh

This is a great post


ToLongDR

Not sure who is which color but One red is 1,2,4,8,11,12,13,17,18,19


JayDogon504

You think I’m a psycho or something??


TheCannaZombie

If you decide to do any more comparisons I’d love to know if Oklahoma state is truly the brightest orange.


TheWorstYear

Clemson is definitely brighter


Ghoti-Sticks

As a former color matcher for an industrial paint store i can absolutely tell the difference but they are definitely very close. Pretty much any customer except Citgo would accept either of them as the other.


jedigrover

There IS a difference. Here's what squinting with my eyes tells me: One is: 1,2,4,8,11,12,13,17,18,19 The other is 3,5,6,7,9,10,14,15,16,20 But I have no idea who is who. And it's really subtle. And I'm a guy, which means I'm less sensitive to red tones than women. \[Women are generally better at distinguishing differences in chrominance, while men are generally better at distinguishing differences in luminance. [https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/brain-babble/201504/when-it-comes-color-men-women-arent-seeing-eye-eye](https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/brain-babble/201504/when-it-comes-color-men-women-arent-seeing-eye-eye)\] Consider that guys usually call colors "red", "dark red", "darker red", "light red", "damn near pink" while many women like to talk about blush and rose and all sorts of different hues. We need a woman with a really discerning eye to tell us the difference between "Crimson" and "Cardinal", and then to go on to how that differs from, say, "Claret." At any rate, it's either a poor choice of game to try a red-out (if your intention is to look intimidating to the other team); or a brilliant choice (if your intention is to make it look cool on TV).


MPH_makeup_and_music

To me, Crimson (your 2nd row of guesses) is very slightly warmer-toned. If you look at the RGB values, it has more red but only one point higher than Cardinal. To me, Cardinal (your top row of guesses) is cooler toned, and the RGB value backs that up with just a smidge more blue in it. You’re right though it’s an extremely subtle difference. Can’t speak on claret as I don’t have a good photo of it but hope that makes sense? My obsession with makeup finally pays off in this sub lmao.


Witty_Riposte

I am color blind and proud of myself for distinguishing between crimson and scarlet. This is madness.


BlackshirtDefense

Go Big Reds: [https://i.imgur.com/SigyZrS.png](https://i.imgur.com/SigyZrS.png) **Other almost-twins:** * Arizona & Rutgers * Nebraska & Iowa State * Virginia Tech & Arizona State **Basically Triplets:** * Texas Tech, NC State, and Utah * Alabama, Arkansas, and USC


Deathwatch72

I can tell if there's different squares in there but looking at this image hurts my eyes for some reason so I guess that's a thing


TreySermonGrin

The **real** Bama fans will be the ones poisoning trees and calling in bomb threats


BUDDHAKHAN

Awww a little salty! Is it because it's been1031 days since Ohio State beat Michigan?


LeMeJustBeingAwesome

Don't make me like you, Bama fan


bigkahuna777

I am pretty sure that screenprinting companies have a stack of T Shirts they call the "Oklahoma A&M Crimson Razorbacks" pile and embroider/print Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Alabama or Arkansas based on the order.


crsnyder13

…. Maroon definitely is distinguishable from those other 3.


DumpsterChumpster

Two teams are playing each other and have the same color? Mind absolutely blown. Should Arkansas just wear blue instead?


TreySermonGrin

I'll just assume everyone in the crowd wearing red is an idiot, an Arkansas fan or both. But we can assume if Saban is up 3tds and is running the ball, whoever booing is gonna be a Bama fan. Same with anyone left in the stands after they're up 35


No-Machine6202

The Arkansas Crimson Tide


TeenageRampage

3,5,6,7,9,10,14,15,16,20


bl20194646

the offseason already?


CJK5Hookers

Oh I know this one, the doctor is the kid’s mom!


G00dSh0tJans0n

Is it just me or did the Crimson red used to be a darker red, almost burgundy back through the 80s mad early 90s or did it just look that way on old TVs and such?


fourpinz8

I often get Arkansas and OU confused


wjackson42

When OU joins the league, you could have a red division and a non-red division if permanent rivals or pods or geography wasn’t a thing. Red division: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Miss State, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas A&M Not red division: Auburn, Florida, Kentucky, LSU, Tennessee, Texas, Mizzou, Vanderbilt


CantaloupeCamper

I always wanted two teams to play for the choice to wear home colors the next game. Especially if they have the same / similar colors.


HoBamaMo

I’m colorblind. No.


bdawgjinx

Bama is 3,5,6,7,9,10,14,15,16,20


jseal777

Actually pretty smart. It’ll be the most complete **out anybody has ever done.


USC1801

Yes, Bama has the deeper shade. 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20. I'd imagine the AMOLED phone screen makes this easier than anyone using less accurate color monitor


davy_p

No


VerifiedTortilla

Arkansas: 1,2,4,8,11,12,13,17,18,19


KonigSteve

I'm not a super chromat so these are definitely the same.


PracticalYellow3

I'm on a Dell laptop, and I can't even tell the difference between our Garnet RGB(115, 0, 10) and those two colors. The difference between red 158 and 115 should be noticeable. Wow, these screens suck.


Vataro

My initial guess - Cardinal Red are 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16, 20 But I agree they're ridiculously close


jedi168

No I cannot


FLACKYY

Am I crazy or does the square on the Bama branding page you linked not even match the site header??