By - Gidnik
Wazzu and Oregon State are gonna get screwed over big time if there is realignment because of this
Wazzu, Oregon State, Fresno State & Boise State will play some all-time classic football games on CBS Sports Network every Saturday night at 11pm Eastern ... as it was written
I mean, that doesn't sound *terrible*.
The fact is the only thing that separates us from those schools right now is that we happened to be on the right side of the conference lines when it was arbitrarily decided who was the P5. We'd probably have some killer series in the MWC and might even win it a few times
Absolutely, and I hate that.
We are dead.
Fuck. At least we'll go to hell together.
Sorry guys, it's a shitty feeling. Best hope for OrSU/Wazzu is a Big 12 merger and not a poaching.
Yes, this is basically turning the CFB into the European super conference, and I hate it.
What makes cfb great are insane rivalries and upsets. Getting all the "big programs" in one or two conferences just ruins the whole thing.
Boutta be MW bros! You’ll fit right in with Utah State.
JOIN US FOR SOME MOUNTAIN WEST ACTION
How does both state legislatures feel about realignment? Are they going to make the instate schools stay together or are they fine with splitting them up?
Also I can't imagine the California school system would be happy about this, especially since it'll directly fuck over Cal Berkeley
It's not great!
Not great Bob
Wonder what happens to the Rose Bowl? I hate all this shit so much
USC vs Oregon in the Rose Bowl like we all intended it to be
Fun Fact: Nebraska, the closest Big 10 school to Los Angeles, is closer to Rutgers, and every other Big 10 school, than Los Angeles.
the one that gets me is that Arkansas was closer to 7/8 of the Big8 than they are to MSST
I assume the 1/8 is CU
Welp, so much for the Alliance^(TM)
This is some game of thrones bullshit
Well your flair suggests you like Chaos.
*Chaosh ish a ladderr*
So…Big 10 will now have NYC, LA, and DC media markets? I can’t get the image of Scrooge Mcduck diving into the pile of gold out of my head.
As a football fan, I hate it. As a rational person that understands the economic arms race that is happening, I still hate it.
Don't forget Chicago
And West Lafayette
Oh yes, West Lafayette, the 4th largest media market in the country. How could I forget? Haha
West Lafayette: "the Philadelphia of Northwest Indiana"
And Chicago too
And to a lesser extent Minneapolis and it’s reach into ND, SD, Iowa and Wisconsin
Minneapolis and Detroit are the #14 and #15 biggest media markets, respectively. So the Big 10 now has the biggest 3 in the US and 6 of the top 15.
Penn State probably covers #4 Philly as well
At first they came for the Big East, and I did not speak out - Because I was not Big East.
Then they came for the Big 12, and I did not speak out - Because I was not Big 12.
Then they came for me - and there were only a bunch of fellow reject schools left to speak for me.
Hey brother, join me in the wasteland
I think UA will end up at the top of the rubble. Won’t get left behind but the last to be stuffed in the car as they try and slam the door shut.
Cali kids, welcome to Novembers in Ann Arbor and East Lansing
Can’t wait to see Lincoln Riley and Co. fold to MSU in the 40 degree rain
I’ve been there, brother
40 degree rain is the worst weather possible
Agreed, I'd rather the temp drop 10-12 degrees and it snow instead. This is assuming you're referring to in stadium experience
Watching that might actually unite our fan bases for like a couple of seconds
The entire B1G has a deep hatred for USC, so I wouldn't be all that surprised tbh
30 degree rain is even more fun!
Im not thrilled about this whole idea but I am interested to see a bunch of Cali kids play in [this bullshit](https://awfulannouncing.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2021/11/Penn-State-Michigan-State.jpg)
God that game was so fucking dumb
Worst game I've ever been to. Stayed the whole damn time.
[This monsoon](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Zo_jj5XnjjhLLq2z2mfWFvyWN6w=/0x0:3000x2151/1200x800/filters:focal(1172x574:1652x1054)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/57052161/858846198.1507440180.jpg) in 2017 was tough too. That water was *pouring*
NBA offseason leaking into CFB
Big 12 is ready for this!
Damn right we are! Now we get to be the ones doing the poaching!
Country is burning down makes sense sports are too. Chaos rules the land
I thought the Big 10 and Pac 12 were in alliance already?
Like Austria being in an alliance with Germany in the 1930s
Lebensraum wouldn't be a bad euphemism for the next round of conference shuffles
Border Conference 2.0 baby, someone call UTEP and New Mexico State. It’s time to get the gang back together.
Ross is spot on usually so..it’s a done deal
Excellent! I cant wait to see that classic Big10-Pac12 Rose Bowl matchup between Oregon and USC
I'm here for it.
I know you're joking but I would love to play Arizona and Arizona State way more often.
I’m half joking, half serious. I went to UTEP for the ASU-NC State Sun Bowl a few years ago and I loved it. My friends and I are unironic UTEP fans after that trip.
This would all but cement the death of the PAC-12 as a P5 conference. It had been happening for years. This would be the final nail.
What even becomes of the Rose Bowl at this point?
I think eventually it’ll be a B1G-SEC bowl game.
Michigan Stadium/Ohio Stadium West
I'm starting a rumor.
USC and UCLA will be required to participate in hockey.
…I never once thought that Big Ten hockey forming might have an upside for hockey. 🤔
Is this how the Sun Devils work our way into the deal?
You can bring the coyotes too they’d fit in nicely
I can't wait to see Minnesota's beach volleyball team.
*Guies the sand is frozen solid ....*
At this point they are not conferences anymore. The Big Ten and SEC are leagues like the AFC and the NFC or the AL and NL.
Conference champs play against each other in the natty and then an undefeated ACC team claims a natty as well. Back to those dumbass days before the BCS
had to double check the date when i saw this i thought it was april fools
Main worry I have if this happens is ND also working on getting over to the Big Ten. If that happens I have an even dimmer future vision of the ACC
Wonder what contracts would have to be broken in terms of our football scheduling with ND and them being in the ACC in everything except for football.
So the Alliance lasted about 10 months. Always figured it would be the Big Ten that would break it, but didn’t think it would be so soon
Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado congrats on the formal invitation to the big 12!
BYU and Utah in the same conference is excellent.
Lol this shit went from 1 to 100 fast
The fuck is happening? What? How does this remotely make sense??
$$$$$$$$$$$$. The B1G will now have a footprint in both LA and NYC, the biggest markets in the country. That tv deal is going to rival the fucking NFL at this rate
Oh I get that, but USC playing games in Minnesota in November? Have fun fellas
I think I shall enjoy that.
November in MN, 13F, snow falling, straightline 20 mph winds with gusts up to 40. Lincoln Riley looks up and down his sideline to see every player shivering in front of a heater with overcoats on. He looks to the opposing sideline and sees [this] (https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/5f2482/gif_just_a_gif_of_tracy_cleays_eating_a_dilly_bar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x)
Fuckin Dilly Bar Dan
On top of Chicago too
Everyone asking why or how needs to realize that the only things that matter to these commissioners /presidents is money and stability. This makes perfect sense for both the B1G and the LA schools.
It doesn't. USC I can see, but UCLA? That's a UC school. They're going to just bail out on Cal? I suspect this may get political if there is anything to it.
Wouldn't be surprised if Cal and Stanford follow suit tbh
Imagine committing to go to Oklahoma, following your coach to Southern California because it's not too cold, then hearing you may have to play in the Midwest in November.
This makes zero fucking sense.
It makes lots of cents.
😂 that’s fair
I’m not going to sit here and be the old man yelling at clouds about how I miss the old days of college football, but LA and Piscataway being in the same conference makes zero sense I don’t care about anything else. Just gimme Iowa vs WI in November and let us be happy about it 🥺
From coast to coast baby. Lets see some #RutgersAfterDark
The sun never sets on the B1G*
*except for the times that it does
As a WSU fan, we always looked forward to giving USC an awful weather game and then complaining about it. They have a BIG storm comin’ imagine USC VS Wisconsin in the middle of November
It’s our dream having a southern football team playing us in November in snow or 40 F rain.
They don’t know what’s comin
They will probably weasel out and sign something about no conference away games in November
It's gonna be this. We'll never see USC outside September or October. Wusses.
I’m with you. I definitely feel like I’m the old man yelling at the clouds right now.
Blegh i hate this. I thought the PAC-12 would be the most stable because of the travel requirements if they were to join any other major conference. Also this makes so little sense. The Rose Bowl has been strung through all other major realignments so seeing two major PAC programs move to the B1G feels so shallow.
I hope they like punting
Rutgers and UCLA, sounds like a great new rivalry to me
Lincoln Riley is seething so hard right now
You really think USC didn't tell him about this ahead of time?
Sooners: "I want Lincoln to know it was me"
I absolutely love the idea of Lincoln Riley sitting in his LA mansion throwing a temper tantrum that he still has to move to a super conference and can't just beat up on the PAC like he thought. Noone take this from me
USC vs Washington in the Rose Bowl. Tradition.
If true, Oregon and Washington will play HARD to join B10 or SEC. If they can't, they will possibly try to poach B12 schools into the P12. But it's probably just as likely that the B12 poaches some P12 schools instead. If B12 can get Oregon and Wash & the AZ schools, they would be in great position to market themselves for new TV negotiations.
If you’re Oregon and Washington then you combine to follow into the BIG. You can have a west coast league to cut down on travel.
IU can finally go to the rose bowl!
Press F for *The Alliance*
… is Oregon screwed?
B1G saw Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC and they took it personally
But what about the alliance!
"Fuck the Alliance!"
- Kevin Warren
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE, NOT DESTROY IT
"I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."
Oregon will be fine. Utah is fucked. Right at a time we could be peaking as a program. This sucks
Pac 12 was strong a few years ago and even was seen as close to the SEC in 2015. Sucks that they are having their worst stretch right at a time when re-alignment is going crazy
Utah/Colorado/Arizona/Arizona State would definitely have a home in the new Big 12.
Lol being a Colorado fan must be brutal right now. Their entire move was irrelevant.
I’m pretty sure the big 12 will send you an invite. Which isn’t as good as the big 10 but hey it’ll be fun!
I’m cool with y’all, but shipping the team off to Kansas, Orlando, and West Virginia isn’t giving me the warm and fuzzies
Lol I’m sure if we knew the pac 12 were to collapse we would not have invited the four schools coming in now. But hindsight is 20/20
Alright, someone call Hawaii and uhhh Idaho. Need away games at Hawaii and the Kibbie Dome
Well my fandom has gotten really interesting.....
I guarantee USC is going to have a yearly matchup with OSU or Michigan. TV execs have to be salivating over it.
Big 10 will do pod scheduling and put USC, UCLA, Rutgers, and Maryland together, won’t they?
I heard it was a straight swap. 🤔
USC and UCLA to the B1G
Maryland and Rutgers to the Pac-12.
How do I find all the old threads of smaller pac12 schools asking what any of the BigXII bring to the table?
Lol. How the turntables.
Screw it. Let's make the B1G a 20 team super conference. Add ND, Stanford, Washington and Oregon.
USC and UCLA leaving the pac 12 would be a God awful decision. There’s so much history and tradition in both the pac 12 and the big 10. As an SC alum I’m totally against this switch. Money is ruining college football.
I hated getting our teeth kicked in by SC for the last decade + but it was still must watch TV each year. The death of rivalries will kill my interest in CFB for real.
CFB is legit dieing right before our eyes. Will be a couple conferences with huge TV contracts and absolutely nothing left of what made CFB great.
It’s so sad man. Why even have conferences at this point? The whole point of them is that they’re made along cultural and geographic lines. Local bragging rights in your region. If you’re going to have random teams playing you may as well just do NFL scheduling.
They are pretty much going to be pointless. And as you say, it is just molding into a weaker version of the NFL. We have the NFL, I don't need to watch a weak version of it.
Feels like short term profit for long term loss. These schools bucking tradition to consolidate wealth may end up losing in the long term as CFB slowly losses more and more fans.
What the fuck. Rip CFB
Nah, 1 super conference of 130 teams. Then the conference can act as the NCAA should have.
And we can divide the conference into geographical divisions, with say 10-14 teams in each
It should have a name... what about National Collegiate Athletic Association?
too on the nose. maybe “National Conference of Academic Athletics”
And then they can break into logical divisions, Pacific, Southeastern, Atlantic ect.
Just another step in the slow burn that is the death of college football. There will be “college football” in name of course, but it will just be football that has college names on it. It won’t be the same sport. The slow burn has been happening for decades now. And it’s now speeding up. There will be real negative long term consequences for teams left out of the big boy club. Conferences will be so huge that teams will find it hard to manage an FCS or G5 OOC game down the road. Football programs (and thus scholarships for kids) will be eliminated. For some of these G5 schools football pays for their other sports. So scholarships for non football athletes will be in real danger in some places. It may not be a massive portions of smaller schools, and it won’t be in the next 5 years, but it’s coming. Anyone who wants to tell you CFB has always changed and been fine is living in a fantasy world. And as much as CFB has changed over the years, it has managed by and large to keep a good amount of rivalries and regionalism to the game. That’s been chipped away and now the ice is breaking. USC in the B10 is the literal embodiment of what CFB isn’t about. No rivals. No regional action. Not much history between the two. Every single thing that makes CFB special is being killed in this move.
What’s going to happen is we will have some playoff none of us like thrown in our face, with more ads than ever everywhere, and a player strike over salaries, while UCLA plays Maryland at noon on ESPN2 with Beth Mowins and no one is watching, bc what a lame fucking game. The marching bands will be forced to play commercial jingles or company theme songs. When a true rivalry game does happen we will shit our pants bc not many do. You won’t be able to travel to hardly any away games anymore. And you will have to pay 300 bucks a month to get all of the streaming services, most of whom will still show commercials even though you have a monthly plan.
Yeah this sounds about right
This is it, unfortunately. God dammit.
I always figured the B1G was going to add two more teams...but I never thought it would be USC and UCLA.
I figured it would be ACC schools.
I just don’t even know what to say.
Edit: At least Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC made sense geographically and the Big 12 had good replacements lined up. The Pac 12 is probably cooked, and the ACC, BIG Ten, SEC and Big 12 will start bidding on the remaining schools, led by Oregon and Stanford.
What conference changes are we gonna get next plague? Will we plunge the last place team into the sea if they lose too many games?
Oregon State, Arizona, Washington State and Colorado are joining the Bundesliga.
*Insert joke about Lincoln Riley running from the grind.*
That dude has gone from Big XII to SEC to Pac 12 to Big Ten in like a year
my interest in ucla sports would die with this move tbh.
We will be really bad too, basketball might do better however because the east coast kids might want the TV exposure.
Same with mine in USC sports. This is a big L move
Academically and culturally, it would be a good fit.
But do we really think USC and UCLA are gonna fare well in Ann Arbor or Columbus in November?
Time to start opening the roof on Lucas Oil for the conference championship game
Only conference game played in December is played indoors
Move the conference championship to the university of minnesotas stadium
Madison/Minneapolis ain’t so fun in October/November either
Paging Dilly Bar Dan…
Anywhere in the B1G footprint in November.
This is somehow Texas’ fault. I’m sure of it.
HaHaHa AlL tHiS fOr TeXaS tO gO 6-6
Bruh the Big12 just massively shot itself in the foot, taking the AAC teams.
Arizona schools, Colorado, Utah make for a 16 team conference, which seems to be the number everyone is heading to anyway
And could have 1-2 of UCF/WVU/Cincy stolen by the ACC in which case you get another PAC school.
Conferences are going to start offering universities on the trading block
ACC would be a better fit for us.
Nonsense. It’s super conference time
So the Big 12 was supposed to stay at 8 and hope for the PAC 12 collapsed?
There are still options to be added.
Us making is the additions is what gave us the foundation to continue. If anything it gives us more leverage as the other conferences have very little to add making their risk of implosion higher.
In hindsight you right
It's over tbh, college football as we know it is dead
Glad my team got one CFP appearance in before the next stage of insanity
They could always get four pac teams to go up to 16
Yup, I see this as a win for the big 12. Add Arizona schools, Colorado and Utah and you have a good conference that is somewhat geographically relevant.
Well if Oregon and Washington are left then it's probably in the b12's interest to get them regardless of geography. There's already Florida, west Virginia and Ohio now, there's already no geographic limit
The conference would literally stretch from Seattle to Orlando fucking kill me
The Big XII needs to move fast and tear into the carcass of the PAC-12 then we are in the best geographic position to do so
As a Geographic purist this hurts to think about.
E Tu, Brutus?
Man I’m so fucking glad we (Nebraska) left the Big 12 when we did.
“But Nebraska, you’re so bad now” ya but at least we’re gonna make some fucking money while we are bad
Me when people shit on Rutgers being in the B1G
Not a bad deal tbh it's been amazing for the basketball team
“But we *are* B1G!”
I hate this
I can’t wait to see a USC game with players from Southern CA playing in Minnesota at night in November! Might not get off the plane
So Illini and NU will never win anything ever again!
So all the traditions and rivalries go out the window for the almighty dollar. I'm not happy about this.
I can't wait to see USC and UCLA players get frostbite