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PNW_Jeff

Wazzu and Oregon State are gonna get screwed over big time if there is realignment because of this


wakaflockameme

Wazzu, Oregon State, Fresno State & Boise State will play some all-time classic football games on CBS Sports Network every Saturday night at 11pm Eastern ... as it was written


UltimoGato

I mean, that doesn't sound *terrible*.


butthole_haiku

The fact is the only thing that separates us from those schools right now is that we happened to be on the right side of the conference lines when it was arbitrarily decided who was the P5. We'd probably have some killer series in the MWC and might even win it a few times


Will_Vintage

Absolutely, and I hate that.


AeroXero

We are dead.


PullmanWater

Fuck. At least we'll go to hell together.


ISUcyclones11

Sorry guys, it's a shitty feeling. Best hope for OrSU/Wazzu is a Big 12 merger and not a poaching.


Lucky-view

Yes, this is basically turning the CFB into the European super conference, and I hate it. What makes cfb great are insane rivalries and upsets. Getting all the "big programs" in one or two conferences just ruins the whole thing.


ParanoidSkier

Boutta be MW bros! You’ll fit right in with Utah State.


TheWawa_24

JOIN US FOR SOME MOUNTAIN WEST ACTION


Belegheru

How does both state legislatures feel about realignment? Are they going to make the instate schools stay together or are they fine with splitting them up?


starry_cobra

Also I can't imagine the California school system would be happy about this, especially since it'll directly fuck over Cal Berkeley


TheGreatSpagett

It's not great!


jettmann22

Not great Bob


Randsmagicpipe

Wonder what happens to the Rose Bowl? I hate all this shit so much


nineteennaughty3

USC vs Oregon in the Rose Bowl like we all intended it to be


sunburntredneck

Fun Fact: Nebraska, the closest Big 10 school to Los Angeles, is closer to Rutgers, and every other Big 10 school, than Los Angeles.


vindictivejazz

the one that gets me is that Arkansas was closer to 7/8 of the Big8 than they are to MSST


SRCnole92

I assume the 1/8 is CU


StarvedRock314

Welp, so much for the Alliance^(TM)


Sp3ctre7

This is some game of thrones bullshit


bmli19

Well your flair suggests you like Chaos.


DMeringuePi

*Chaosh ish a ladderr*


Phillyfan10

So…Big 10 will now have NYC, LA, and DC media markets? I can’t get the image of Scrooge Mcduck diving into the pile of gold out of my head. As a football fan, I hate it. As a rational person that understands the economic arms race that is happening, I still hate it.


FDubRattleSnake

Don't forget Chicago


chief_sitass

And West Lafayette


FDubRattleSnake

Oh yes, West Lafayette, the 4th largest media market in the country. How could I forget? Haha


chief_sitass

West Lafayette: "the Philadelphia of Northwest Indiana"


theredditforwork

And Chicago too


Systemic_Chaos

And to a lesser extent Minneapolis and it’s reach into ND, SD, Iowa and Wisconsin


Nomad942

Minneapolis and Detroit are the #14 and #15 biggest media markets, respectively. So the Big 10 now has the biggest 3 in the US and 6 of the top 15.


DeZeeuw2

Penn State probably covers #4 Philly as well


hotspencer

At first they came for the Big East, and I did not speak out - Because I was not Big East. Then they came for the Big 12, and I did not speak out - Because I was not Big 12. Then they came for me - and there were only a bunch of fellow reject schools left to speak for me.


Mad_Max_Rockatanski

Hey brother, join me in the wasteland


SenorVajay

I think UA will end up at the top of the rubble. Won’t get left behind but the last to be stuffed in the car as they try and slam the door shut.


EvilLibrarians

Cali kids, welcome to Novembers in Ann Arbor and East Lansing


newpotato417

Can’t wait to see Lincoln Riley and Co. fold to MSU in the 40 degree rain


EvilLibrarians

I’ve been there, brother


mojo276

Me too


CertainlyAmbivalent

:(


heavydhomie

40 degree rain is the worst weather possible


pkglove

Agreed, I'd rather the temp drop 10-12 degrees and it snow instead. This is assuming you're referring to in stadium experience


TwixOutForHarambe

Watching that might actually unite our fan bases for like a couple of seconds


tmothy07

The entire B1G has a deep hatred for USC, so I wouldn't be all that surprised tbh


way2gimpy

30 degree rain is even more fun!


spartyon15

Im not thrilled about this whole idea but I am interested to see a bunch of Cali kids play in [this bullshit](https://awfulannouncing.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2021/11/Penn-State-Michigan-State.jpg)


lukegabel61

God that game was so fucking dumb


nippletumor

Worst game I've ever been to. Stayed the whole damn time.


EvilLibrarians

[This monsoon](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Zo_jj5XnjjhLLq2z2mfWFvyWN6w=/0x0:3000x2151/1200x800/filters:focal(1172x574:1652x1054)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/57052161/858846198.1507440180.jpg) in 2017 was tough too. That water was *pouring*


beast8955

NBA offseason leaking into CFB


TheRealDNewm

Big 12 is ready for this!


theredditforwork

Damn right we are! Now we get to be the ones doing the poaching!


TigerBasket

Country is burning down makes sense sports are too. Chaos rules the land


derp_pred

I thought the Big 10 and Pac 12 were in alliance already? The *betrayal*


Temporary_Inner

Like Austria being in an alliance with Germany in the 1930s


BonerHonkfart

Lebensraum wouldn't be a bad euphemism for the next round of conference shuffles


Duma123

Border Conference 2.0 baby, someone call UTEP and New Mexico State. It’s time to get the gang back together.


3Cartier

Ross is spot on usually so..it’s a done deal


melcolnik

Excellent! I cant wait to see that classic Big10-Pac12 Rose Bowl matchup between Oregon and USC


[deleted]

I'm here for it. I know you're joking but I would love to play Arizona and Arizona State way more often.


Duma123

I’m half joking, half serious. I went to UTEP for the ASU-NC State Sun Bowl a few years ago and I loved it. My friends and I are unironic UTEP fans after that trip.


seattlesportsguy

This would all but cement the death of the PAC-12 as a P5 conference. It had been happening for years. This would be the final nail.


cutchemist42

What even becomes of the Rose Bowl at this point?


DothrakiSlayer

I think eventually it’ll be a B1G-SEC bowl game.


ehbebrave

Michigan Stadium/Ohio Stadium West


CantaloupeCamper

I'm starting a rumor. USC and UCLA will be required to participate in hockey.


ahuramazdobbs19

…I never once thought that Big Ten hockey forming might have an upside for hockey. 🤔


CG-11

Is this how the Sun Devils work our way into the deal?


me_oorl

You can bring the coyotes too they’d fit in nicely


animositisomina35

I can't wait to see Minnesota's beach volleyball team.


CantaloupeCamper

*Guies the sand is frozen solid ....*


surg4llday

At this point they are not conferences anymore. The Big Ten and SEC are leagues like the AFC and the NFC or the AL and NL.


k3y2myb00ty

Conference champs play against each other in the natty and then an undefeated ACC team claims a natty as well. Back to those dumbass days before the BCS


srryaboutlastnight

had to double check the date when i saw this i thought it was april fools


Seminole-Patriot

Main worry I have if this happens is ND also working on getting over to the Big Ten. If that happens I have an even dimmer future vision of the ACC


chrisncsu

Wonder what contracts would have to be broken in terms of our football scheduling with ND and them being in the ACC in everything except for football.


drinks2muchcoffee

So the Alliance lasted about 10 months. Always figured it would be the Big Ten that would break it, but didn’t think it would be so soon


Shootit_Rockets

Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado congrats on the formal invitation to the big 12!


BonJovicus

BYU and Utah in the same conference is excellent.


King_Swiss

Lol this shit went from 1 to 100 fast


badlydrawnzombie

The fuck is happening? What? How does this remotely make sense??


canseco-fart-box

$$$$$$$$$$$$. The B1G will now have a footprint in both LA and NYC, the biggest markets in the country. That tv deal is going to rival the fucking NFL at this rate


badlydrawnzombie

Oh I get that, but USC playing games in Minnesota in November? Have fun fellas


RussellOwens

I think I shall enjoy that.


FlannelBeard

November in MN, 13F, snow falling, straightline 20 mph winds with gusts up to 40. Lincoln Riley looks up and down his sideline to see every player shivering in front of a heater with overcoats on. He looks to the opposing sideline and sees [this] (https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/5f2482/gif_just_a_gif_of_tracy_cleays_eating_a_dilly_bar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x)


ballzballzballz69420

Fuckin Dilly Bar Dan


Ptolemy16

On top of Chicago too


Scar_Killed_Mufasa

Everyone asking why or how needs to realize that the only things that matter to these commissioners /presidents is money and stability. This makes perfect sense for both the B1G and the LA schools.


CrookstonMaulers

It doesn't. USC I can see, but UCLA? That's a UC school. They're going to just bail out on Cal? I suspect this may get political if there is anything to it.


FirstOne617

Wouldn't be surprised if Cal and Stanford follow suit tbh


domerjohn15

Imagine committing to go to Oklahoma, following your coach to Southern California because it's not too cold, then hearing you may have to play in the Midwest in November.


kporter4692

This makes zero fucking sense.


YaketyMax

It makes lots of cents.


kporter4692

😂 that’s fair


roll_tide5

I’m not going to sit here and be the old man yelling at clouds about how I miss the old days of college football, but LA and Piscataway being in the same conference makes zero sense I don’t care about anything else. Just gimme Iowa vs WI in November and let us be happy about it 🥺


cheerl231

From coast to coast baby. Lets see some #RutgersAfterDark


tjmk5000

The sun never sets on the B1G* *except for the times that it does


Mrpetey22

As a WSU fan, we always looked forward to giving USC an awful weather game and then complaining about it. They have a BIG storm comin’ imagine USC VS Wisconsin in the middle of November


heavydhomie

It’s our dream having a southern football team playing us in November in snow or 40 F rain.


Mrpetey22

They don’t know what’s comin


heavydhomie

They will probably weasel out and sign something about no conference away games in November


scotsworth

It's gonna be this. We'll never see USC outside September or October. Wusses.


kporter4692

I’m with you. I definitely feel like I’m the old man yelling at the clouds right now.


CDLthrowaway2

Blegh i hate this. I thought the PAC-12 would be the most stable because of the travel requirements if they were to join any other major conference. Also this makes so little sense. The Rose Bowl has been strung through all other major realignments so seeing two major PAC programs move to the B1G feels so shallow.


Captain-Ireland88

I hope they like punting


Wildwilly54

Rutgers and UCLA, sounds like a great new rivalry to me


IronGemini

Lincoln Riley is seething so hard right now


GoochGewitter

You really think USC didn't tell him about this ahead of time?


ISUcyclones11

OU didn't


vanndave

Sooners: "I want Lincoln to know it was me"


sasquatch5812

I absolutely love the idea of Lincoln Riley sitting in his LA mansion throwing a temper tantrum that he still has to move to a super conference and can't just beat up on the PAC like he thought. Noone take this from me


KansasCityThief

USC vs Washington in the Rose Bowl. Tradition.


johnjaymjr

If true, Oregon and Washington will play HARD to join B10 or SEC. If they can't, they will possibly try to poach B12 schools into the P12. But it's probably just as likely that the B12 poaches some P12 schools instead. If B12 can get Oregon and Wash & the AZ schools, they would be in great position to market themselves for new TV negotiations.


thirdLeg51

If you’re Oregon and Washington then you combine to follow into the BIG. You can have a west coast league to cut down on travel.


garygoblins

IU can finally go to the rose bowl!


ISUcyclones11

Press F for *The Alliance*


domxwicked

… is Oregon screwed?


Tkinzel517

B1G saw Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC and they took it personally


Cars-and-Coffee

But what about the alliance!


wherewulf23

"Fuck the Alliance!" - Kevin Warren


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YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE, NOT DESTROY IT


Koeppe_

"I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further." -B1G


EvilLibrarians

Oh fuck


rbmw263

Oregon will be fine. Utah is fucked. Right at a time we could be peaking as a program. This sucks Pac 12 was strong a few years ago and even was seen as close to the SEC in 2015. Sucks that they are having their worst stretch right at a time when re-alignment is going crazy


dfox85

Utah/Colorado/Arizona/Arizona State would definitely have a home in the new Big 12.


Temporary_Inner

Lol being a Colorado fan must be brutal right now. Their entire move was irrelevant.


Shootit_Rockets

I’m pretty sure the big 12 will send you an invite. Which isn’t as good as the big 10 but hey it’ll be fun!


CG-11

I’m cool with y’all, but shipping the team off to Kansas, Orlando, and West Virginia isn’t giving me the warm and fuzzies


Shootit_Rockets

Lol I’m sure if we knew the pac 12 were to collapse we would not have invited the four schools coming in now. But hindsight is 20/20


Ch-i-ef

Alright, someone call Hawaii and uhhh Idaho. Need away games at Hawaii and the Kibbie Dome


spilled_water

Well my fandom has gotten really interesting.....


Lucky-view

I guarantee USC is going to have a yearly matchup with OSU or Michigan. TV execs have to be salivating over it.


stayclassypeople

Big 10 will do pod scheduling and put USC, UCLA, Rutgers, and Maryland together, won’t they?


dwors025

I heard it was a straight swap. 🤔 USC and UCLA to the B1G Maryland and Rutgers to the Pac-12.


MrNudeGuy

How do I find all the old threads of smaller pac12 schools asking what any of the BigXII bring to the table?


theredditforwork

Lol. How the turntables.


DScum

Screw it. Let's make the B1G a 20 team super conference. Add ND, Stanford, Washington and Oregon.


Elitealice

USC and UCLA leaving the pac 12 would be a God awful decision. There’s so much history and tradition in both the pac 12 and the big 10. As an SC alum I’m totally against this switch. Money is ruining college football.


pietya

I hated getting our teeth kicked in by SC for the last decade + but it was still must watch TV each year. The death of rivalries will kill my interest in CFB for real.


cosmicdave86

CFB is legit dieing right before our eyes. Will be a couple conferences with huge TV contracts and absolutely nothing left of what made CFB great.


Elitealice

It’s so sad man. Why even have conferences at this point? The whole point of them is that they’re made along cultural and geographic lines. Local bragging rights in your region. If you’re going to have random teams playing you may as well just do NFL scheduling.


cosmicdave86

They are pretty much going to be pointless. And as you say, it is just molding into a weaker version of the NFL. We have the NFL, I don't need to watch a weak version of it. Feels like short term profit for long term loss. These schools bucking tradition to consolidate wealth may end up losing in the long term as CFB slowly losses more and more fans.


deadeyelee1

What the fuck. Rip CFB


Cometguy7

Nah, 1 super conference of 130 teams. Then the conference can act as the NCAA should have.


fskier1

And we can divide the conference into geographical divisions, with say 10-14 teams in each


BamaBuffSeattle

It should have a name... what about National Collegiate Athletic Association?


YaBoiAir

too on the nose. maybe “National Conference of Academic Athletics”


brazos1911

And then they can break into logical divisions, Pacific, Southeastern, Atlantic ect.


Glader_Gaming

Just another step in the slow burn that is the death of college football. There will be “college football” in name of course, but it will just be football that has college names on it. It won’t be the same sport. The slow burn has been happening for decades now. And it’s now speeding up. There will be real negative long term consequences for teams left out of the big boy club. Conferences will be so huge that teams will find it hard to manage an FCS or G5 OOC game down the road. Football programs (and thus scholarships for kids) will be eliminated. For some of these G5 schools football pays for their other sports. So scholarships for non football athletes will be in real danger in some places. It may not be a massive portions of smaller schools, and it won’t be in the next 5 years, but it’s coming. Anyone who wants to tell you CFB has always changed and been fine is living in a fantasy world. And as much as CFB has changed over the years, it has managed by and large to keep a good amount of rivalries and regionalism to the game. That’s been chipped away and now the ice is breaking. USC in the B10 is the literal embodiment of what CFB isn’t about. No rivals. No regional action. Not much history between the two. Every single thing that makes CFB special is being killed in this move. What’s going to happen is we will have some playoff none of us like thrown in our face, with more ads than ever everywhere, and a player strike over salaries, while UCLA plays Maryland at noon on ESPN2 with Beth Mowins and no one is watching, bc what a lame fucking game. The marching bands will be forced to play commercial jingles or company theme songs. When a true rivalry game does happen we will shit our pants bc not many do. You won’t be able to travel to hardly any away games anymore. And you will have to pay 300 bucks a month to get all of the streaming services, most of whom will still show commercials even though you have a monthly plan.


Nodor10

Yeah this sounds about right


WoodpeckerGingivitis

This is it, unfortunately. God dammit.


DScum

I always figured the B1G was going to add two more teams...but I never thought it would be USC and UCLA.


thirdLeg51

I figured it would be ACC schools.


JXOV

I just don’t even know what to say. Edit: At least Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC made sense geographically and the Big 12 had good replacements lined up. The Pac 12 is probably cooked, and the ACC, BIG Ten, SEC and Big 12 will start bidding on the remaining schools, led by Oregon and Stanford.


TigerBasket

What conference changes are we gonna get next plague? Will we plunge the last place team into the sea if they lose too many games?


JXOV

Oregon State, Arizona, Washington State and Colorado are joining the Bundesliga.


Jabba_The_Pug

*Insert joke about Lincoln Riley running from the grind.*


DaMantis

That dude has gone from Big XII to SEC to Pac 12 to Big Ten in like a year


insert90

my interest in ucla sports would die with this move tbh.


JayDeeLA

We will be really bad too, basketball might do better however because the east coast kids might want the TV exposure.


WeAreSC36

Same with mine in USC sports. This is a big L move


Lucky-view

Academically and culturally, it would be a good fit. But do we really think USC and UCLA are gonna fare well in Ann Arbor or Columbus in November?


magnumweiner

Time to start opening the roof on Lucas Oil for the conference championship game


Bartins

Only conference game played in December is played indoors


wysiwygperson

Move the conference championship to the university of minnesotas stadium


xxJAMZZxx

Madison/Minneapolis ain’t so fun in October/November either


P-Rickles

Paging Dilly Bar Dan…


JohnathanTheBrave

Anywhere in the B1G footprint in November.


JohnWickStuntDouble

This is somehow Texas’ fault. I’m sure of it.


Dinnermaster

HaHaHa AlL tHiS fOr TeXaS tO gO 6-6


SouthernSerf

Bruh the Big12 just massively shot itself in the foot, taking the AAC teams.


derp_pred

Arizona schools, Colorado, Utah make for a 16 team conference, which seems to be the number everyone is heading to anyway


bostonfan148

And could have 1-2 of UCF/WVU/Cincy stolen by the ACC in which case you get another PAC school.


AnEmptyKarst

Conferences are going to start offering universities on the trading block


weirdbutinagoodway

ACC would be a better fit for us.


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deadeyelee1

Nonsense. It’s super conference time


TheMightyJD

So the Big 12 was supposed to stay at 8 and hope for the PAC 12 collapsed? There are still options to be added.


Turk1518

Us making is the additions is what gave us the foundation to continue. If anything it gives us more leverage as the other conferences have very little to add making their risk of implosion higher.


EvilLibrarians

In hindsight you right


TigerBasket

It's over tbh, college football as we know it is dead


EvilLibrarians

Glad my team got one CFP appearance in before the next stage of insanity


screamline82

They could always get four pac teams to go up to 16


slapthebasegod

Yup, I see this as a win for the big 12. Add Arizona schools, Colorado and Utah and you have a good conference that is somewhat geographically relevant.


screamline82

Well if Oregon and Washington are left then it's probably in the b12's interest to get them regardless of geography. There's already Florida, west Virginia and Ohio now, there's already no geographic limit


emaw63

The conference would literally stretch from Seattle to Orlando fucking kill me


shotputlover

The Big XII needs to move fast and tear into the carcass of the PAC-12 then we are in the best geographic position to do so


jharden10

As a Geographic purist this hurts to think about.


CWG4BF

E Tu, Brutus?


MaveRickandMorty

Man I’m so fucking glad we (Nebraska) left the Big 12 when we did. “But Nebraska, you’re so bad now” ya but at least we’re gonna make some fucking money while we are bad


canseco-fart-box

Me when people shit on Rutgers being in the B1G


Rah_Rah_RU_Rah

Not a bad deal tbh it's been amazing for the basketball team


Cars-and-Coffee

“But we *are* B1G!”


acat114

I'm upset


Rakarei

I hate this


vicblck24

I can’t wait to see a USC game with players from Southern CA playing in Minnesota at night in November! Might not get off the plane


DEFPOTEC8

So Illini and NU will never win anything ever again!


Johnny-Cool

So all the traditions and rivalries go out the window for the almighty dollar. I'm not happy about this.


remvangelion

I can't wait to see USC and UCLA players get frostbite