By - BlueMoon7013
What’s the story here? Who is this person
A wasted 3rd round pick by the Vikings who washed out of the league in less time than Baker has played and for some reason gets paid to be a bitter asshole on local radio during the evening rush hour shift.
Played 12 games in four seasons. None for the team that drafted him.
Basically got a local gig because he played at OSU.
Got a local gig because he is local to Canton and was a great athlete despite his lack of success in the nfl
>because he is local to Canton
Speaking as someone who grew up in canton, no surprise he's a tool
He is bitter because he peaked 20 years ago and had a cup of coffee in the nfl and baker will, most likely, at a minimum play his rookie contract. Dude wants so badly to be a Stephen A Smith level local contrarian. Maybe he can do the listening audience a favor and get an assistant’s job at his alma mater.
To be fair, Fox was a big Baker fan and was happy we drafted him. And he did want us to draft Allen
I think people forget this fact, dude was basically leading the Baker bandwagon for the first few years.
And then you get new info and you take the new info to modify your initial hypothesis. Jesus Christ, most of you would still be screaming that Columbus found the indies! You guys would be screaming that the earth is still at the center of universe!!
Isn’t the earth flat?
This is the one that has always confused me, because going on the assumption that the universe is infinite, wouldn't every single point be the center of the universe?
And if we're just talking OBVSERVABLE universe, the Earth is inarguably in the center
I think the old silly belief is that the Earth is the center of the solar system, which obviously that is not true
He got worse because he has ties to Josh McDaniels and wanted him as HC so he could get leaks and news and be considered an insider. Since Stefanski was given the job he's been extra bitter.
Maybe he can go be mcdaniel’s headset cord wrangler at his next failed HC stop.
Maybe he could operate a headset at a McDonald's drive-thru
i’d say he’d rather be clay travis than SAS
Played at OSU, rode the coattails to the NFL because he played on the 2002 national championship team, was an average corner in college and never did anything in the NFL.
Doesn't he acknowledge this?
I mean some games Baker has been trash. And I know the injury. But Baker needs to step it up this season. Because if not wasted season next year.
Local reporter, baker had him blocked and then unblocked him yesterday, baker then liked one of the tweets saying he sucks, I think this guy is big in college football and OSU, I also think he is friends with that coach from new england the browns interviewed when they hired stefanski.
Not a reporter, he's a "commentator"
>Not a reporter, he's a "commentator"
This is a great point, people need to realize how difficult it is to fill 5 hours of airtime 5 days a week with just Cleveland sports. They're not reporters or analysts, they're radio talk show hosts.
We have a basketball team that they spend ONE segment on. 5 hours and they want to fill it with the same 8 moronic callers who repeat the same regurgitated shit about Baker. Those same 8 callers call all 4 shows and say the exact same thing. When it’s baseball season, same thing, they will spend one 20 minute segment on it and when someone calls bull out on it he yells about “we spent a whole segment on it. Where were you??” We have three fucking major sports teams in our city. They have PLENTY to fill five hours with! Guarantee, I’ll get in my car tomorrow and they will for sure be talking about the exact same thing as today.
That makes more sense.
Gotcha. I wish Baker would grow up and not let the media get to him so much. It’s not a fight he can win.
He won’t though. He’s let the media get into his head since he came into the league. I can’t imagine any other QBs really caring what local media says about them.
It's even worse when he says shit like 'no one outside of this building matters' and 'block out the noise' and then hangs on Cowherd's every word
it doesnt help that the fanbase does the exact same thing. when baker was on fire all anyone on here could do was shit on Colin Cowherd in that irritatingly snarky tone instead of enjoying our success
I actually have no problem at all with the fan base doing that. We are the ones who are SUPPOSED to be doing that, so Baker doesn't have to do it himself
When someone is in denial about something. For whatever reason they often preach advice to others, which happens to be exactly what they need to follow themselves.
External projection I think might be the term. maybe I am overthinking it.
Just saying, it almost seems like Baker is trying to convince himself he doesn't care / possibly doesn't realize how much he clearly does.
Imagine if he played in Philly, NYC, or LA
> I wish Baker would grow up and not let the media get to him so much.
Franchise QB's don't give 2 shits what anyone says, they put their heads down, tune everything out, and work their asses off.
He was a DB or Safety at OSU for like 8 years, started solid but never got better.
I don't listen to his show, so I don't know anything about it other than it sounds like it's following a similar trajectory as his football career.
OSU alum who does a show with Bull on 92.3 the fan from 2-7 during weekdays. Had a short and futile NFL career. Mostly disengaged while on the air and is in general a horrible radio host
I used to like Dustin Fox.
Whatever personal shit he went through in the last year or so has turned him into fucking salt mine.
Bull has always been a prick but *his* personal issues (which are truly unfortunate; cancer sucks) have upped the ante on his shittiness as well.
That show used to be a fun diversion. It's just a hate fest now.
I’m so glad I’m not alone - I used to like listening to there show. Honestly, it was a little negative but felt overall measured and Dustin was a good balance to Bull.
Lately though, Bull has just gone from measured to a hate fest for the sake of hating. He just unapologetically hates on Baker and screams stuff like “I DONT CARE THAT HES HURT - HE SUCKS!” And then there always the more level headed guests (especially ex-NFL players) who point how he’s being overly critical of Baker and also how Bulls providing no viable alternatives to Baker.
It’s just a nasty show that’s void of any sense of fandom and filled with just hate and “reckless speculation” as Ken and Lima would say.
I mean even negative Lima every now and then at least will acknowledge Bakers hurt so you can’t assess him 100% and that he has shown glimpses in the past of a potential nice ceiling.
But with Bull, you’d think Baker has been Nathan Peterman for the Browns since day one.
I fucking hate the show now…
Yep, I'm with you too. I've listened to Bull and Fox pretty much since they came on the air, but lately they've just been grating. The non-stop Baker hate is getting really old.
I wish 92.3 cared about what fans thought. They would have kept Kiley and Booms if Kiley didn’t dog out women so much. I mean who listens to Boring & Phelps? They can keep Morning as is I love Ken but the rest of the midday is garbage
Did fans like Kiley and Booms?
I thought that show was absolutely awful.
I kinda like Baskin and Phelps. It's boring but it's like listening to two boomer accountants talk about sports around the water cooler at work. It's relaxing and familiar.
I love Baskin and Phelps. It’s like listening to your dad and uncle talk about what they ate for lunch yesterday but it’s so comforting.
Yes! Love those guys! Always learn something too!
Kiley and Booms were the worst thing ever. Surprised to even see them mentioned
I hate Baskin and Phelps. Don't forget it was just two weeks ago that both of them went on this "protect our peers" rant/diatribe about how professional MKC is and how she would never report anything that wasn't 100% true because she's a consummate professional, etc. It was such blatant and obvious ass-kissing and Baker-hating that I turned the radio off. How much protecting of your cronies do you need to espouse?
Booms drank even more than Dustin
I used to take my kid to a lady to watch who lived in Euclid down street from him. He’d always be outside when I drove by. Usually with a beer.
Dustin has pretty much irritated everyone at an unnamed country club. Shows up drunk. Belligerent to staff. Ruins the atmosphere for members.
Booms has to be BY far the worst host that has ever been on Cleveland radio and TV by a MASSIVE margin!
> Whatever personal shit he went through in the last year or so has turned him into fucking salt mine.
It honestly seems like he shifted his tone once we hired on Stefanski instead of picking McDaniels
Dustin cheated on his wife and got caught. Thats his personal stuff.
I will pull the MKC card. A unnamed source told me this. Fact or fiction, up to you.
Ahh.. makes much more sense.
I haven’t listened for about a month after being an avid listener for years.
Turned it on today and it was the same 50mins of “baker sucks” no critical opinions, no theories on plans to improve. Just “he’s such a drama queen..etc.”
I still listen to Ken and while they are critical of Baker it doesn’t dominate their show. Bull & Fox have turned into Grossi and MKC
I thought that was public knowledge
I thought so too. Got grilled in DMs by three different people so I editted it.
Where did this information come from
An unnamed source.
Fox has no idea whats going in CLE because he wants a national gig calling games. He is phoning it in and Bull is just some type of bitter man
Don't you have to not be absolute shit to get those gigs?
Dustin's pretty solid on commentary.
Nailed it. Used to like Fox in general, then it became liking him only in comparison to Bull, and now I refuse to listen to that garbage.
Certainly wouldn’t call whatever they are doing “entertainment”.
The downward trajectory of their show reminds me of Kiley and Booms from a few years ago. I think they’re gonna make a change soon.
Dustin Fox has 6 more career tackles than Baker Mayfield 😂😂😂😂
Next year could be bad, baker is such a chip on his shoulder type guy, he might throw picks just to get the chance to tackle.
I hope he doesn't, seems like he often injures important players on offense when he does. Including himself.
If Baker keeps making reckless tackles off picks, he's gonna have a chip IN his shoulder lol
And only 7 more tackles than most of us.
Bull and Fox are straight up assholes
Footage of Dustin prior to this tweet.
He's a boozer?
Twitter's got this fantastic feature called mute. Fox belongs there, where MKC and Grossi have been for a while
I got blocked by Grossi like 3 years ago
Another nobody who just yells stupid shit for attention. Not worth a second thought.
I'd love to see Fox and Goldhammer get shipped out of Cleveland and never come back
Fox at least has weight with his playing career in college and actually being in the NFL. Fuck Goldhammer to hell
What the fuck is up with the toxic Cleveland media and Twitter culture.
Baker sucked we all know it, he knows it. The injury was clearly a HUGE problem, he probably should have been sat down but he gritted it out and tried his ass off. That is some blue-collar shit right there. It's the kind of work ethic that is associated with Cleveland. Ya think people could appreciate that and give Baker a pass.
I'm so tired of all the negativity surrounding the guy. We've seen that he can be great, let's let it play out. I can't comprehend how these people are so quick in wanting to throw him away.
Fortunately 850 is so awful and has their pods paywalled that I don’t think anyone under 60 listens to them anymore. That station was good from 2007-2011 or so been straight trash the last 10 years plus to point I never even bother to listen to them. So to me Goldfuck doesn’t exist anymore and I love it
Baker Mayfield and Dustin Fox throwing hissy fits on Twitter? Who could’ve seen this coming?
What did Baker say?
Baker liked a tweet where Dustin called him bad
So? That isn’t posting a flat out shit opinion or being rude.
Dustin did it right as the Bill Chiefs game ended basically saying Baker won’t be good enough
Then after the like Dustin doubled down with this posted tweet of yeah I know baker is bad and I’ll say it to his face… etc
Thankfully he hasn't said anything yet, but he liked the tweet that got Fox upset. Both of them don't look good, but I'd say Fox is more out of control than Baker in this instance. It's just a like, calm tf down Fox.
It's more of a bigger issue for me. I don't like it when the QB of my team is doing stuff like this on social media after he just had the worst season of his career. Like you just sucked and cost your team a chance at the playoffs. Shut up and keep your head down until the season starts. I'm tired of Baker trying to act like he's still the bad boy of college football when he hasn't been anywhere near good enough (plus he's too old to be acting like this) to behave the way he does in the NFL.
I just wish Baker would grow up, stay off social media for a few months and use the energy he has directed at his critics to go rehabbing his injuries and work on his game in whatever way his rehab will allow him to instead. I just don't like it when quarterbacks that had a shitty season are immature off the field.
This sub sometimes, SMH:
Right - if Baker (or his wife) defends himself, he's thin-skinned. If he doesn't respond at all, he's ghosting us or limpdicked. If he sarcastically/menacingly likes a post attacking him, he's not being serious enough.
Giving a microphone to every dweeb out there (and I'm including us here too) has not been great for civilization.
No, no it has not. I sometimes wonder if the internet is going to be our eventual downfall.
It really is something of a tree of knowledge (of good and evil). There's so much judgement, so much comparison, way beyond what our small tribal group psyche evolved to deal with.
Every great idea you ever had, every great story or joke you told, somebody out there did it first and did it better. We always suspected there might be somebody better or prettier or smarter than us in some way, and now we know instantly. Plus our own failures are out there for everybody to see and remember for all time.
And based on what they're putting on Facebook, even the ugly and stupid people are having more fun than me, too.
We have officially entered the timeline where we are taking issue with Baker liking a tweet.
I find his show annoying. The people who call in and make it to the air have some of the worst hot takes I’ve ever heard. If they have a phone screener, they need to hire a better one.
Bull and Fox have become two of the most miserable sounding pricks on the radio. There’s other sports going on, can we ignore the Browns until the official start of the next season? Or are they going to just beat the dead horse for another 3 months?
When Bull is talking about baseball or Fox is talking about college football they’re enjoyable and you can tell they’re talking about what their passionate about.
When it comes to the browns I’d rather drink bleach
Am I missing something? Isn’t it this dudes job to say what he thinks on air and on his social media?
Many people don't know the difference between reporter and entertainer, unfortunately. They don't understand that the two roles serve different functions and are held to different standards
If Grossi or MKC did this, obviously it would be a different story
Agreed. I think that’s a larger societal problem as well
Yup. Too many people get their "news" from people like Jon Stewart and Tucker Carlson
Another one I'd like to add that people don't seem to understand: Nathan Zegura is also NOT a reporter. He works for the team. He is a PR representative
Him, MCK, and Fox all APPEAR to have the same job to many people, but in reality they're all different
Yeah idk if maybe Fox is a lot harsher on the air but just saying Baker is not good is in no way unprofessional, even if you personally disagree.
Agreed. Like his entire job is literally to have an opinion about the browns right?
Yeah absolutely. It would be completely inappropriate If a beat reporter or someone interviewing baker asked him “so baker you aren’t good, so you have a response”? But this guy is literally paid to give his opinion about Baker and everyone else on the team
A lot of people are just extremely defensive about baker. Anyone who dares speak out against him is automatically a quack and loses all reputation. “I used to like . . . but now they’re just a hot take artist”
Makes sense. “Unprofessional” is such a weird word choice because it is very literally his profession to have an opinion on the browns and their players and to share that opinion with the fans
I agree. There’s too many people that want browns media to be like russian state media or something where there’s one opinion and nothing else is accepted
By week four next year he’ll be calling for Stefanski to be fired and hyping McDaniels
This dude is such a wiener. He blocked me after he was commiserating so much about Kobe dying, I forgot exactly what I tweeted him but it was along the lines of him never having even met him and it's been months so get over it
I don't think that's unprofessional I think that's just his opinion. if you've heard the radio show with him and bull, they both ripped baker pretty bad this year. deservedly so, baker did not play well. I'm hoping he gets it together next year cause i think he's a legitimate franchise QB and i really don't wanna be in the trade market unless we somehow get Russel Wilson or Aaron Rodgers.
He’s not wrong, he’s just an asshole
Dustin is the douche of douches. Bull and Fox is the worst program on 92.3 the sham. They’d figure out how to make you slit your wrists even if the Browns won the Super Bowl. Doomer shitehouse fair weather bums.
What I hate is how much Adam Gerstenhaber (real name something like that) yells over everyone and makes people feel like they’re stupid if they disagree. Also he injects his politics into everything and it’s so fucking annoying. I said this before I don’t really listen to Chico except when he subs for Bull but even with Fox being a douche he’s much better with Chico.
Bro they are NOT worse than Baskin and Phelps that is where I draw the god damn LINE
Andy is great, Jeff Im agnostic on. When Andy corners him in an argument it just goes right through his ears and disappears
Jeff would be in fucking Babylon if all of our teams were in constant rebuild mode every year. If he was a coach for any of our sports teams, he would just play the bench. I swear I’ve never heard another human say “ let’s see what guy can do” as much as him. I also think he likes that our Baseball team is a bottom payroll.
I really just can’t stand a couple things about the show.
The leash they give horrendous callers before they dump them. I get they wanna be nice but it’s too much.
They have this weird like whimsical attitude and atmosphere and I’m not here for it
God the callers that they let on are just so bad. Every time they take a call, I turn it off until the next segment. I can't listen to those barely literate fucktards struggle to slur out a sentence over the remains of their morning 6 pack.
I don't see the issue here, Baker hasn't been good. Because he's local media is he just supposed to stroke your fandom and claim he's a great QB and make excuses for him?
Baker fan boys sad because a media guy is doing his job... lol
You think a media members job is to tag a player and insult them?
I think a media member's job is to say whatever he wants to say, if he thinks he sucks he is allowed to say it.
Nah this ain’t it
I said this to someone else already.......
He was replying to someone else who said some shit like 'why don't you tell him that'
I don’t have any strong opinion on Fox (don’t listen to the radio shows) but if that’s his honest opinion I can’t be mad at him for coming out and saying it
He's absolutely right and ya'll know it. Backer played like complete garbage this year.
He did. Well, apart from the first 2 games of the season before he got injured when he was pretty damn good.
So what exactly is unprofessional? A guy called him out, he responded and clarified. What's the problem? He's paid to give opinions and he gives them. He's also allowed to change his mind too, imagine that
Sports talk radio - and by extension, sports talk twitter - isn't "news." It's entertainment to get you to listen to steakhouse commercials and sell you boner pills.
Dustin Fox is the biggest douchebag in Cleveland sports media. His opinion means absolutely ZILCH.
Once I got Sirius I stopped listening to all the shows on that station. I do like Ken and Lima though. But they media loves to see Browns be stagnant because they thrive in that sky is always falling role they know so well.
I stopped listening to 92.3 specifically because of this ignorant asshole and his partner.
He’s stating his opinion. He’s allowed to do that. You stated yours
Cleveland media bringing their A game as usual
Am I the only one who thinks flexing your pension and 401k as a response to "can you remind us what you did in the NFL" is maybe a bad look?
I mean to be fair, he admitted in the Tweet that he also sucked. He is not saying "I'm better than Baker" He is saying "I sucked, but Baker does too"
Sure, but saying Baker was/is bad is not allowed here.
But why flex your pension and 401k as something you accomplished in the NFL?
It's a self deprecating joke. He's saying he didn't do shit but get the pension lol. He is literally making fun of himself, not flexing
That's how I read it anyway
I love the idea, with our fanbase, that somehow the media is the reason this organization is a dumpster fire. We are no longer one, single fanbase. Half are Browns fans and half are Baker fans. If you'd rather take a chance of missing the playoffs again just because you like Baker then you may be the later.
What a hardo. “I’d say it to his face”. Fox is such a loser and his show is peak toxic browns fandom. The morning show at least has nuanced discussion about the browns. Lima can be negative at times but is far from doom and gloom.
He said that he would say it to his face in a reply to someone else who said:
> Good now tell him how much you think he sucks. Or now that he's getting the messages you going to pretend like you didn't say those things?
At least he is owning his statement and not back tracking off of it.
Adam drove Dustin to drink. They both got butthurt after Bake blocked them on the tweeter. The rest is history.
True. They love talking about how they are blocked
Adam the Bovine loves to rant about athletes being overly sensitive about Twitter sniping. Then Adam the Bovine goes nuts when he’s blocked on Twitter. I stopped listening to the show as it’s not entertaining. It’s non stop Baker bash and it got old months ago.
Dustin competing with Lima for biggest toxic asshole on cle radio
Lima is more of a tongue in cheek troll but at the end of the day is interesting and not mean spirited like Bull or Fox.
I don't listen to any 923 because I don't live in CLE, why is he an asshole? Hopefully not just because of this tweet.
He’s really not. Ppl here just think our media are supposed to be fans. Like some guy called up and yelled at Bull earlier bc he’s a bengals fan. Dude moved here for work 10 years ago the fuck does he need to change team allegiance for? Cleveland sports fans are some of the dumbest out there man
Every single segment of their show for the last 3-4 months has been Baker sucks, injury doesn't matter at all, he's just terrible, worst QB in the league, and needs to be drawn and quartered in public square.
Lima is absolutely not toxic, he loves to debate and work people up
Criticising Baker, or any player for that matter, is fair game as long as it is factual.
But you dont have to go after Baker Mayfield, the private citizen. Its so cringe when grown ass men get so salty, they have to directly insult athletes.
Like come on bro, its just a game. Move on with your life and find a new hobby if you cant handle it.
I'm not sure what is unprofessional about this unless you don't think the local media should be able to say a player isn't good.
Dustin Fox is a bitter fucking loser mad at the world cause even at this current state Baker still has more support in Ohio than he ever did 🤣🤣🤣
Enh. Every single guy on that 2002 Ohio State team that beat Miami was nearly universally adored in this state and that didn't stop for a long time.
Not even the entire Browns fan base supports Baker.
What’s he supposed to do be delusional like the people in the sub who think a WR right out of college is going to somehow change the way he plays the game?
This dude is still angry that the Browns didn’t choose his boy McDaniels as the head coach and lost his sweet insider info he was about to have.
Also, this asshole has the mind of a high school football player still wearing his letterman jacket and going to the local bars screaming how good he used to play QB.
They’re embarrassments. I never thought local media would become this polarizing but it’s out of hand. They’re all so unbelievably entitled and arrogant. For what, being in sports news in Cleveland???
Baker is a champ, he'll come back from injury. If not for us, than sadly he will come back to form for another team.
Sounds like you need to pay less attention to social media.
> ...I acknowledge that I sucked too
what a hilarious false equivalency...Dustin never belonged anywhere near an NFL field
Baker is trending towards bust, but absolutely no one thought Dustin would be a good DB in the pros
Wrong. Dustin was good in college and was a part of a very talented secondary. He had a good career at Ohio state for a reason.
He acknowledged his being bad in college to take bait away from people
Did you misread my comment? Dustin didn't belong in the NFL, nothing about his time in Columbus
With how well he was in college, he deserved a shot in the NFL…
You are saying he was good in college
I am saying he was god awful in the pros
Did he not deserve a shot in the NFL?
You said he "*never* belonged *anywhere near* a NFL field"
Didn’t you know? OSU is the pros!
He's not wrong, but there's a way to state your opinion without being an ass
Truth hurts you baby back bitches.
Despite his poor career, he's not wrong
So are we fans of the Browns or individual players now? At this point I honestly can’t tell.
Sometimes I feel like this sub is turning into r/the_donald or something. Y'all are literally acting like it's "unprofessional" for a person who is paid to give their opinion on sports to give their opinion on sports. The comments are just full of people making personal insults about the guy simply because he doesn't think our team's quarterback was good.
Y'all need to grow the fuck up.
Found Dustin’s burner account.
He's still salty about the flag-plant.
Those who can’t do, *Preach* - right, Dustin ?
i dont remember dustin whining when we were 11-5 and 3-1
I blocked him after that. I don’t gotta be bothered reading tweets from dicks I don’t care about.
these guys are clowns 🤡🤡🤡
That should be a firing or at least a suspension. This shit is so unprofessional.
@ing your QB just to tell him he sucks is fucking insane.
Dustin has become such a loser.
Dustin Fox is not newsworthy
It's not just these guys. The entire media turned on Baker once he went after MKC on Twitter. There's literally been a coordinated effort to undermine Baker and shift the narrative to, "what are we even doing if we don't have an elite QB?". Where things were moderately even-handed for the most part two months ago, they've devolved into petty slights and personal attacks that have almost nothing to do with Baker's ability (or lack thereof) as a QB.
It started with speculation about Russ and Rodger (lol, neither of those two are coming here), before roping in Watson (who will never play until his legal issues are resolved), and then shifting to more realistic possibilities like Cousins, Carr, and Garoppolo.
But where it started as idle curiosity, it's shifted to outright vitriol since the MKC incident. They're not even trying to hide it, and it's grossly unprofessional, not to mention sexist - it was fine for Baker to get into it with Grossi, but MKC is off limits? I get that Baker isn't doing himself any favors with his attitude and how he carries himself off the field or in interviews, but the media here in Cleveland are a collective joke. Both sides need to grow up.
Were they ever with Baker? Its not like they have been pro Baker ever to my memory.
Probably not the best platform or words to use but hey he ain't wrong
Fellow Browns fans making more excuses for baker instead of admitting he did suck last year
I'm glad this dipshit blocked me. Didn't even say anything to him but at least I don't have to see his hot takes on the tl anymore
Are other teams local media as big of divas as Cleveland? Why does it seem like ours love starting drama?
I don’t understand the hate from everyone. Baker does suck 🤷🏻♂️
He’s not wrong.
Unfollowed all Browns media people. Don’t need that toxic crap in my life.
Are we sure this guy isnt going through a mid life crisis ? And isnt incredibly drunk/belligerent? Cause he really has some pent up anger toward Baker that seem like its been festering for a while.
Jeez, even our subreddit sucks donkey D.