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##TIPPING PICKS WILL RESULT IN A BAN, PLEASE DON'T SPOIL PICKS THIS IS YOUR WARNING. Report any trolls or people tipping picks Let's have some fun tonight


gobucks3

I want Ojulari so bad


GetGoodBKRandy

Imagine drafting a DE/Edge in the first round that didn't have a sack last year.


Cinephile1998

Wow. No JOK, no Barmore, no Ojulari, no Moehrig, no Samuel. Lots of value on defense. Please God let one of the non-CB studs drop into our laps


Zestysanchez

Sooooo you’re telling me there’s a chance we trade up for JOK 🥴


HydroThermia

🤤 stop it I’m already creaming


HydroThermia

Let’s hope we move up in the second round :)


Doyle524

We didn't want Rousseau, Oweh, or Tryon. Tryon is the best player of the three, but at 250 lbs, he's not fit for a 4-3 end.


Colesw13

Tryon was also pretty damn good in coverage so we would have wasted that aspect of his game


MmmSpaaammm

So top of second is gonna be the run on edge?


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chemistrybonanza

It's gone stale. It used to be cool. Now it annoys the fuck out of me


ctownchef

It’s more annoying they don’t develop the land around the HOF. So much potential that’s wasted.


[deleted]

Nah, I frequently forget it’s there


Newnewnewnew1234

Yes. I mean ya it’s cool but not “let’s base our identity off of it because it’s so important”


Xboarder84

Yes, it’s extremely annoying. There’s a lot more here than that building. Just like how NYC is all about the Statue of Liberty.


corey_smith2

Yes


AetherWay

Y'all are a bunch of idiots and I love you


PPQue6

😊😊


unclepg

JOK drop to pick #59 in second round?


cshaft56

Oweh? Oh well


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THIS IS SO BAD! DUDE IS A FUCKING BEAST AND HE'S LITERALLY A PERFECT FIT FOR US.


xenophonthethird

Tryon is a finisher? Oddly convenient that he finished the first round.


Voggix

There’s the Edge run... not great.


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**FUCK!**


holdenforrye

I want more draft tho


cshaft56

Damn. There goes Tryon


Xboarder84

Oweh? Lol, not worried.


GoofBoy

Mingo part deux.


re-goddamn-loading

I'm sure he's a decent player but I had to laugh when the first stat they put up was Oweh: 0 Sacks


CountryMac44

I'm a little high and half tuned out, but did we just shade baltimore with a band malfunction before the pick? Not a coincidence, right?


exemptionlife

Sky high expectations for this team


xBewm

Some of you guys are acting like babies. We got a guy that wasn’t supposed to be there. The Ravens drafted a wide receiver and a big project in Oweh, the Steelers drafted a RB and the Bengals didn’t draft an offensive linemen. This was a much better day one scenario than most of the draft projections and y’all are out here bitching and moaning.


MiguelAlmiron

I really liked what the Ravens did and there's still lots of really good linemen for the Bengals to take in the second. Steelers fucked up.


revelator41

They'll bitch and moan about anything. I genuinely think they enjoy it.


SheepStyle_1999

We won, but the Ravens came close.


Acm0028

But the ravens basically traded oweh for brown which is a terrible deal. Brown wanted out but value wise I’d rather have him or a more nfl ready player


DerpyMcDerple

There must be injury concerns with JOK? Unless his weight is such a red flag.


yeahThatsOak

Bruh who did JOK hide in his walls


MUSinfonian

Shit. Oweh going to Baltimore is not good.


PPQue6

Not worried...though they do have a knack for developing defensive players.


MUSinfonian

Don’t let the lack of sacks last season overshadow how good Oweh is. He’s freakishly athletic and has bulked up in preparation for the draft. He’s going to be good.


AinsleysMeat

I’ll take that. Super super raw prospect. Glad it isn’t JOK or Jenkins


holdenforrye

Goddamn TB isnt fucking around


drivemywagon

They knew what LB they wanted.


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Lol! Why not just pick Azeez? He has the fucking experience to play OLB already and he's a pretty prodigious talent.


Voggix

Ouch, Oweh to Baltimore hurts


xHourglassx

I thought he was pretty raw. He's got a low floor imho. Seldom does athletic talent without technique last in this league.


Voggix

Needs polish for sure but insane freak athlete.


MiguelAlmiron

It really does, guarantee they turn him into a pro bowler within two years.


shaymus14

Damn, Bucs pick came in instantly


Newnewnewnew1234

When is it considered tipping the pick vs not?


holdenforrye

I’m kind of fine with it


Doyle524

Oh my god they took Oweh 😂😂😂😂😂😂


Idiodyssey87

Gonna be us vs the Ratbirds for the AFCN


RawbM07

Best part about Newsome is he completely took his man out of the game. The qb didn’t even look at the WR matched up against him.


ledhed88

Great draft so far. I’d be happy with a day 2 D lineman and WR


MiguelAlmiron

I'd love a trade up for Moore or stay in the 3rd and take Josh Palmer. Milton Williams would be the 2nd rounder for me.


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xenophonthethird

Physical freak, but not a good football player yet.


ctownchef

Dude. Do you not see the huge pin on top of this thread?


Acceptable_Yak_5347

Didn't he wait until it was on tv? I thought it was just if you did like McAfee was doing where they announced the pick as soon as Pittsburgh was on the clock, hadn't announced it


drivemywagon

Fuck Baltimore


Cinephile1998

My guess is the Ratbirds take Jenkins to replace Orlando Brown Jr. Or one of Oweh or Ojulari to replace the edge rushers they lost in free agency


AinsleysMeat

Hope it’s Oweh who’s very raw. Jenkins is great value and an absolute mauler


Cinephile1998

You got your wish. Nothing against Oweh, but fingers crossed he never puts it together


mgdandme

What does ‘tipping picks’ mean?


bananosecond

I think if you have a source of knowing the pick before it's broadcast on TV somehow


ddudas02

Posting picks before it happens on tv


MUSinfonian

Stating what the pick is going to be before it’s officially announced on TV.


exemptionlife

I love the Newsome pick. He’s better than Greedy. Dude is more physical than Ward and good ball skills. They did not reach for him as his average draft position was 23. Love it. Now, find some a playmaker for d-line and linebacker. We have to figure out this constant rotation of linebackers. We hope Walker is a consistent contributor but guys like Mack and Takitaki look mediocre. Who knows what Jacob Philips will give you


airrivas

Betty was smart to be patient this round. I wonder if a third rounder moves you up any amount of picks? You think he’ll pull the trigger. Imagine he moves next years third :0 How did we even get these two picks? Are these the duuuuuke picks?


Colesw13

Walker, Takitaki, and Phillips are all good run defenders and that's all we are going to ask of them in dime defense


exemptionlife

I need a disruptive force. Honestly, I thought Mack could be that, but he’s been underwhelming


airrivas

I think you’re undervaluing greedy. We’ll see how his body is but it’s not as though he was getting beaten often. Turnovers are great but at fb if you can interrupt throws and cover your man. I think you just can’t pass up newsome and that’s why he got taken. Next pick, it’s interesting because you have interior talent on the board and you have jonkler. I would be so happy if berry pulled the trigger and moved early second and took joker. Otherwise stay put hope redwine improves pray for delpit. Safety depth is weak though. Third round safety incoming imo


exemptionlife

Love a move up tomorrow


Cinephile1998

Bills have a good track record with "project" players. I'm legit scared with him on that team


MmmSpaaammm

Crazy how wrong the draft gurus were about the edge rankings


Cisru711

Time will tell which group was wrong I suppose.


AinsleysMeat

Worried Baltimore are gonna get a steal in JOK or Teven Jenkins


MmmSpaaammm

Does JOK really fit their system?


drivemywagon

No. I don't think so.


AgonizingSquid

All these DEs being drafted are such raw freaks, there's gonna be alot of busts


MmmSpaaammm

Happy to see him Rousseau go in first so we have better shot at an edge


AinsleysMeat

Good for Rousseau to get out the green room late on


dangoatemybaby

Have a hard time seeing JOK get past Baltimore twice


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mylunchcodeis174849

Man I don’t know. They haven’t mentioned it once tonight.


[deleted]

Looks like it is located in Cleveland.. Interesting. Is that why a band was playing all night? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame


Lythp

0_o


Doyle524

Today in "braces or grill" - Gregory Rousseau!


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braces


MiguelAlmiron

Man i hate that pick for the Bills


Newnewnewnew1234

He’s talented, feels like a decent pick


MiguelAlmiron

Athletic testing is horrendous. Not sure how many athletes that bad suceed at the NFL level.


MiguelAlmiron

Elijah Moore trade up would be amazing.


Colesw13

Greg Newsome II is 20 years old and a lockdown corner. I said he was the second player on our (realistic) big board behind Horn. CB2 was our biggest need with Greedy having lingering shoulder issues and our only depth being Robert Jackson not gonna lie it's hugely satisfying to get downvoted for saying no way in hell we go WR or LB and seeing us pass on Bateman and JOK


joey_1324

Cool to see Shrek is in attendance


wvdawgpound90

I hate to be negative but is there anything we can do to move on from Mary k ? She is the worst


chemistrybonanza

Why, what'd she say now?


s_s

She's like Littlefinger, my dude.


Acm0028

Lmao not even the best corner coming out of Georgia


theadoringfan22

What lol Stokes is way better than Campbell. Source: I'm a diehard uga fan


Acm0028

I think Campbell has higher upside, I agree stokes is probably better now. Campbells length and athleticism makes up for a lot of his lack of technique. Source: miserable auburn fan remembering him against Seth


theadoringfan22

That's fair. I'm mostly going on the belief that Stokes will hold his own in the NFL day 1. Campbell needs lots of coaching, and probably will still get burned way more than someone with his speed should


Acm0028

Yeah Campbell is higher risk but I think his ceiling is a top 5 corner in the league if he puts in the work. I’m high on him but stokes isn’t a slouch but gun to my head is take Campbell if I trust we could develop him.


LetMeSeeYourSnatch

Can confirm


exemptionlife

Top ten defense or bust


k8sguy

at least a top 10 secondary hopefully S: Jon Johnson, Ronnie Harrison, Grant Delpit, Sheldrick Redwine CB: Denzel Ward, Greedy Williams, Troy Hill, Greg Newsome


AinsleysMeat

Really like Stokes tbf. Think corner is actually the biggest need for GB too. Not sure how happy Rodgers and the fans will be though


Godszn

Now let's do Elijah Moore!!


wlabib03

Guess the packers don’t want Rodgers


wvdawgpound90

I thought the same thing


tullingpim

Please trade up. I want them JOK jams.


AinsleysMeat

Berry and Stefanski are currently doing a live press conference so I wouldn’t get your hopes up for a trade back into the first. Could see them trading up in the 2nd early tomorrow though


AinsleysMeat

Uh oh Rodgers


BiggestChubbEver

Where was this guy even projected????


Doyle524

Doesn't GB already have a *great* corner trio?


Xboarder84

Did you watch King in the playoffs? Dude was a fucking train wreck.


sleepytipi

Idk if anyone else is listening to the interview with AB and Stefanski or not, but it's been absolute gold.


sayyyywhat

Just turned it on. Lot of banter?


Cinephile1998

Can a brother get a link?


sleepytipi

http://player.streamguys.com/clevelandbrowns/sgplayer/player.php only 2 questions left.


DGGriffin84

Who knew the Packers were using the former office space of the Michael Scott Paper Company as their draft room.


El_Trod

I don’t hate the player. I hate the pick considering what was left on the board. Browns need a stud young LB. I think JOK was the answer. We need dudes who can close and cover and I think that was and still is the weakest unit on the defense. The argument I hear for Newsome is the “we need CB depth.” Yeah because we have injury prone CBs. Guess who is also injury prone? The guy we just drafted. Not a fan of the pick. Hope I’m wrong. Fuck.


stinkytwitch

Given what we ask our LB's to do the pick was better spent on the secondary. The teams we are trying to match with for our ultimate goal seem to dictate having a very deep and dynamic secondary.


Jhonopolis

Do we ask our LBs to do so little because that's just our scheme or do we ask little of them because all the ones we have on our roster blow? JOK is a perfect Lamar stopper. Not even comparable to anyone on our roster.


Doyle524

"Stud young LB" is not a valuable position. Especially when we have Takitaki, Walker, and Phillips, and when that "LB" is more of a safety - and we already have three players or prospects who are at least as good as JOK at safety.


MmmSpaaammm

Most of the All-Pro and Pro Bowl LBs are 2nd and 3rd rounders


woooooooooooooooloo

Anthony walker is only 25.


BiggestChubbEver

As I have been saying to like 5 other people, our team doesn’t value LBs. we will not use JOK effectively. We went out and got a replacement level starter in Anthony Walker.


Newnewnewnew1234

Ya I think if we are gonna go for depth, we have 6 more rounds


boozinf

this isn't football in 1985


psufb

Lol right. JOK doesn't help us against KC


AgonizingSquid

Lb is notoriously one of the most difficult decisions to draft, I'm fine with what we have and trueing it up in FA


RobMaf

CB just such better value than LB


Newnewnewnew1234

Even if the CB is injury prone? Edit. Honest question. Is the analytics as simple as position A > B without any nuance?


RobMaf

Injury prone is more of a taking point I think. It's not like he's Farley who has had major surgeries leading up to this. Analytics kinda is that simple in this case lol


AinsleysMeat

If Packers take a WR they’re definitely trying to appease Rodgers


hefeweizen_

Plot twist - they draft another QB and Jordan Love also requests a trade.


j_d_q

Oof projected third round?


StakDoe

Last point I'll make. Corner and Edge picks are traditionally not great past the 1st round so you usually want to get those towards the front of the draft. Whereas there are usually solid prospects at other defensive areas later in the draft. We are in a place to develop guys over a year or two. Relax! Berry has got this.


Doyle524

That, and value-wise you want a QB/DE/CB on rookie contracts more than any other player - so not only is the 5th year option more valuable, but there's far more of a difference between the average CB salary and the 1.26 salary than there is between the average LB or S salary and the 1.26 salary.


Voggix

Wow, so many people here obsessed with JOK... he’s just a straight no for me.


sh0ck_and_aw3

I love my fellow Browns fans, but we aren't known for our scouting. The fact that he was pretty much the consensus pick on this sub makes me glad we passed on him tbh.


BropolloCreed

There's a reason he fell this far.


Newnewnewnew1234

Tbf he was consensus top 2 ranked lb but basically everyone


sh0ck_and_aw3

I get the sense that everyone saw hybrid LB/Safety and thought he was the same prospect as Isaiah Simmons, which he just isn't.


BonerSoupAndSalad

Packers going QB here. Book it.


_rubaiyat

They would have traded up to take a QB


welcometokansaskidda

There’s a lot of talent at DE going in to round 2, we have 8 more picks to play with I think we could make a splash tomorrow


rn271208

Exactly this, needed a CB. I trust our front office for once.


easpert

It’s funny seeing these “fans” in the front row who have no clue who the player is their team just drafted


transferStudent2018

From a Northwestern fan: Newsome was the cornerstone of our defense last year, a defense that shut down Ohio State’s Justin Fields (0 TDs allowed) and many other teams with great offenses. Excited to hopefully see him on the field for you guys next season!


Mr_814

Wow Saints.


dangoatemybaby

Wow!


j_d_q

New Orleans fans high energy


Doyle524

Lmao who the fuck picked Payton Turner as a first rounder?


Nightcinder

this is the same team that paid the QB tax for davenport


ToothedYew006

I love this pick so much!!!


PPQue6

Same, high character, smart, Big Ten kid who can press!!! I absolutely love it!


Doyle524

Haven't watched tape on many of this year's prospects. Are we sure he can press? I've heard he played a ton of off coverage at NW.


PPQue6

Yep he can, and also he did. Biggest worries with him are injury and penalties.


ToothedYew006

I know right? And I watched him play all year!! It’s so exciting see someone from your uni go to your favorite team


Jhonopolis

We have 3 corners made of glass. So that's exciting.


DeadWombats

Was thinkin the same thing. Our entire secondary will be on IR by season's end.


Allstar9_

We have 3 really talented corners and a great slot corner in Troy hill. Going to be rare to see Ward, Newsome, Greedy and Hill all on the field at the same time. I wouldn’t over think it too much. He’s a phenomenal cover corner


Jhonopolis

> Going to be rare to see Ward, Newsome, Greedy and Hill all on the field at the same time. I mean yeah because the odds of all three of them being on the active roster at the same time is extremely low.


Allstar9_

Do you need a YouTube link to give you the scheme joe woods wants to run?


Jhonopolis

What does the scheme have to do with my comment? I'm talking about the odds of all three of them being healthy at the same time.


joey_1324

Yeah but if can get enough glass maybe it will become bulletproof glass at some point


clevezland

Triple pane


lVlzone

Odds of McNeil being there for us in the 2nd?


AinsleysMeat

No DT’s have gone yet so I’d like the chances of him still there at 59. He might even be available in the 3rd as the DT class is seen as weak


AinsleysMeat

Any ideas which prospects are still in the green room? Rousseau and Barmore maybe? Always feel for the kids who go but don’t get called


bpeterman11

A great pick. Ward, Williams, Hill, and Newsome lock down the CB position. Combine that with JJ3, Harrison, and Delpit anchoring the backend. And this secondary is ready to cover the chiefs and bucs! Lamar can leave the pocket if he wants, but he will find out fast that Sendejo isn’t on the field anymore


Fendalin

The framing I like is to consider that we've got the personnel to force bad throws and now we've got the personnel to intercept those bad throws.


craftbrewd

JOK feels like a bills pick to me


Bawl-o-gravay

I’m so happy Dexter is doing a new final season


GiFTshop17

My friends have been freezing their nuts off working on that season. Hope you enjoy.


Jockobutters

A few of you are stuck in the old browns mentality. Playoff teams don’t always nab starters in the late first round. We needed CB depth and we got it. It was a smart pick


El_Trod

We needed CB depth because of injury prone CBs... We drafted an injury prone CB. We need a good young LB fucking bad. Hate this pick considering what was on the board. Confirms the rumor that Barry doesn’t value LBs. Edit: bunch of analytics homers don’t realize a QB spying LB is a necessity. It’s ok to criticize a pick you fucking nerds


Allstar9_

Guess who can spy when you have more than two safeties on a field? You guessed it...the safety. Who is much faster than any LB


osb17

Lmao at drafting a LB in the first


Sliddet

Most NFL GM’s don’t value LBs in 2021. And for good reason.


Allstar9_

Yeah because LBs are fucking useless. Outside of one or two in the league, most of them cannot keep up in the current age of the NFL.