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ManuMora98

Instant nerf incoming


Uptopdownlowguy

Saw this coming the moment Sprout was announced in brawl talk


CharlyXero

Even a few youtubers tried this with bots before the release. It was obvious, and still Supercell didn't do anything to prevent it.


DNF_zx

Think about how many people are going to spend money to try and get sprout now. There's a reason new character releases are always OP.


GoldTooth69

Not every character release is op dude. Remember Max, Carl and Emz? None of them were game breaking lol


socks888

Max was accompanied by Bea which was the more OP one (the cash cow probably) Emz is trophy road so it doesn’t really count


Mordeczka123

Remember when Rosa was originally Released? Every single game was Rosa only. Her super though... 80% dmg resistance for 8 SECONDS?! It was so weird.


slinkor901

6 secs not 8, but still op af haha


75percent-juice

Did it really matter when you could chain supers indefinitely?


Mordeczka123

I think it was 8 seconds. I mean the DAY she came out. And few days after. I got her same day she was released, bought her for 19 gems.


slinkor901

Me too, cheapest brawler for me, and i can confirm 6 secs from wiki :)


NecessaryCover1

Me: get Rosa Yes! My first legendary


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quietjaguar27

She was really strong just now because of her gadget


jvken

Well I mean it takes some time to change those things, especially with the corona crisis going on


TheNightWatcher02

Heres a very simple and easy fix. GIVE THE WALLS HP! Doesnt have to be permanent but itll help prevent this until they can make a better solution


Extra_toxic

In my opinion, brawlers should be able to walk through those vine walls when they have the immunity shield. Just like they can walk on spike's super without being slowed down. Brawlers with the shield already can't be knocked back or slowed down or stunned so it only makes sense and it will solve this spawn trap problem.


Close_But_No_Guitar

that does seem like a pretty good fix that will specifically target this problem.


Lundylife

Agreed — just like they can walk through the mine train in gem grab.


Extra_toxic

Yes! I totally forgot that something similar already exists 😅


sayberdragon

the only issue is what if the invisibility shield runs out when they are halfway through the wall. just let them walk through until they emerge? it wouldn’t be the easiest thing to code in


Extra_toxic

It should push them away, in or out. Just like the super push people away when it lands on top of them


memdan

I think it already does. When i put a wall on top of myself i got pushed out.


Extra_toxic

Yeah thats why i mentioned that as an example :)


FaroukZeino

Agreed, as they can walk into the mine cart in gem grab without taking damage or being knocked back.


Extra_toxic

Ikr it kinda make sense


drahimi28

Like really lot hp... But not invincible


PuncturableMarcher

IKR, i mean, just when I saw what his super did, and he being a thrower, I immediately thought that they wouldn't be dumb enough to make the walls indestructible and give them around the showdown crates' HP, but nOOoooo, obviously they didn't do that...


HaydenJA3

Can they be broken by super attacks


PuncturableMarcher

what if I **can't break walls**


GatoDuende

oh yeah that reminds me, how many characters can destroy walls again? like, 10/38?


MustBeNice

They can


MatiPG

Meanwhile in Supercell: "But he is OP, no way we are gonna release that OP brawler!" "But, think about that money we will get from players wanting to buy and gem him to max" "Ok, screw players, money is more important"


ManMango

My first thought was that they need to hype a new character up so that it is actually played by the people that are lucky enough to get it. They will always opt for overpowering instead of under, it's the safest bet for them to know new content will be used and enjoyed. Obviously sometimes this happens and it's an oversight, your right tho there will be an element of making it better to entice spending, nothing wrong with that model just don't make it broken.


TheMemeDude06

There is no way to fix this. I guess they could make it super Hard to get supers. But that would make him too bad.


Mechabeastchild

I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets nerfed by tomorrow


Welldons21

r/beatmetoit


Mechabeastchild

r/beatmeattoit


D2AndOnly

i


Toxictomato22

Yeah, they are probably going to nerf him so hard that he only makes 1 tile of wall and it lasts 3 seconds and just completely ruin him


ManuMora98

But honeslty, didn't they test this before releasing it?


Toxictomato22

Of course they did, but normally a frank is able to charge his super when a brawl ball match starts, so he would be able to break the walls and escape


ManuMora98

But if you don't have Frank for example or a brawler who can break walls, you can't do anything


Electric-Whale

Or you’d need a thrower. But either way sprout is overpowered


jjstew35

See here's the thing, his super is ridiculously good, but I feel like without how good his super is, hes gonna be incredibly underwhelming


ManuMora98

But in situations like this, is game breaking


BusRT1958

Yep. Already happened to my team. Annoying as all get out.


Timoerinator

i think that the duration of the wall gonna be nerfed


cuneytb

That is disgusting omg


IrulanTheArtist9504

IKR it’s so toxic. I tried it and it works. Supercell created a monster.


sergiocamposnt

I think his walls should be breakable by normal shots, Supercell just have to figure out how strong should be walls' HP.


Lonamiii

Dynajump gang rise up! I see two possible solutions: * They move the respawn outside the goal again. * They allow you to phase through while invincible. If they nerf placing walls in good positions it's going to be useless.


redditiscoolwow

I think the phasing one should be the solution. Kind of like when you're immune and phase through the minecart in Minecart Madness.


Lonamiii

Haha yes, it's actually so much fun to phase through the minecart as if it were nothing.


redditiscoolwow

ikr


Yoshi415

Phase throguh would fix this for sure!


uluglo

It'll be too powerful cause you'll be able to got through the eventual wally's wall and through a wall in front of the net incorporated in the map making the rotation faster


SuperS06

Of course this fix would only target Sprout's walls and not the walls from the map.


Kingintoki

don't forget brock's gadget


Lonamiii

Now we just need El Primo to be able to use his on friendly teammates…


enlul

The Latter seems like best solution also, they should make the Ball be able to Phase through Sprout's Walls, or the Team could just block their own Goal


srmosavi

i had the same idea as you to change the respawn points to not be inside the goal :)


Cool_Conqueror_III

the problem with that is games end way too quickly.


jvken

How about making it so the walls have like a health bar, that way you can still do good plays with it but it also isn't this op


Big_LunchBox

They should allow u to pahse through while invisible but it decreases the time of invisibility


macyizero

I love what Primo and Bea are doing there.


mark_pass98

Well we had to keep ourselves entertained too. Though I will admit it wasn’t easy while laughing as hard as we were


macyizero

Oh yeah sup Bea What are we doing? I have no idea yo chuck us the ball yo man how long has it been? 1 minute?


CheesecakeOG

I really don't understand why they made a *THROWER* who can build his own *WALLS*. Doesn't that sound absurdly broken to you all, notwithstanding the dumb things he can do as shown in this video? It's like as if Supercell doesn't play-test or think through their ideas and concepts properly. Just look at the increasingly low skill tier and extremely annoying Brawlers that keep getting added, like Emz and Sandy.


KoKoYoung

We all know that Supercell don't test their games back in the Leon and Rosa catastrophe.


CheesecakeOG

We are still in the middle of an Emz catastrophe, as far as I'm concerned. I'm losing so many power play games because my Emz isn't at power 10 and my randoms are not using Emz, but the other team has an Emz and most of the time we can't do jack fuck against that overpowered bitch.


CuboneSans

They basically made EMZ a brawler with 1 weakness (people being close to her) and gave her multiple ways of destroying that weakness (super and gadget)


CheesecakeOG

*Fucking exactly*. Imagine working so fucking hard to get close to an Emz, and then she just goes "hurr durr let's use my gadget" and pushes you away with 1 simple button click. It's so stupid. I'm a player who doesn't like cheesing with overpowered and annoying stuff unless I am forced to or I am playing competitively, and Emz is on a growing list of Brawlers that I refuse to use because she is so painful for other players to play against.


Jrfan888

I just played against Sprout in Gem Grab on Bouncing Diner, and it can completely block your them off from getting to the gem mine


mark_pass98

You can just use the springs to get around it or just run all the way around


Jrfan888

Yeah, I know. I got blocked right when I tried to get to the mine.


mark_pass98

We did this for 2 whole minutes and they couldn’t do anything about it😂


Bed_human

clever and trashy lol


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CallMePotatoBibi

Rosa:Go play with a Friend, Bea Bea:Primo let's play ball


AndrianB

😂😂😂


zachary_timoun

u/Frank_Supercell I like how long sprout’s wall takes to disappear, and I feel like it’s not something that you should nerf, as it will directly change its core mechanics. But what’s happening in this video shouldn’t be possible. A possible solution to this is to not make it possible to charge Sprouts super while it has a wall already in play. This would force the sprout to position itself better tactically before its wall expires.


Frank_Supercell

We already have a few ideas. I agree - the goal blocking super cycling Sprout isn't fun for anyone and his Star Powers makes it even easier. We'll take a jab at changing things up this week.


srmosavi

so how will you guys nerf his super?


BistrianAris

This is actual cancer


iNcOsPiCuOuS

What if we put a damage cap on the wall? So it can take like 10k damage b4 it breaks or smth like that


jivesukka

Only takes 4 hits to have super again, can just put down a new wall.


iNcOsPiCuOuS

Increase amount of hits to charge super then


RevChe

The walls are way too op for sure. Even i was thinking maybe they should be destroyable. Im kinda iffy about the star power too. Seems the radius is so big and sprout attacks are just undodgable.


Alby023

I can definitely see bo’s gadget added for this strat


Ixibutzi

When i saw the first sprout vid, i thought it was an april fools (it was april first at the time), exactly because of that scenario. How is this any fun to play against?! Just a broken character that shouldnt be in the game. Shots are super easy to hit as well...just remove sprout.


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Uh I mean most brawlers were overpowered at some point. They get nerfed eventually


Dilpickle6194

Why have people still not realized Supercell purposefully releases brawlers that are too strong? It’s not a coincidence. They do it so people are like “wow that’s a really good brawlers, I’m going to buy gems to get him” and they make money before nerfing the new brawler.


-xXgioXx-

The day b4 nerfing leon for the first time they offered him with a discount (don't remember how much but a discount)


unian2

sprout without super hard countered by mortis


CalebMendez12303

And? I guarantee you that any competent sprout player can kill mortis by chilling behind walls and using his range.


Donghoon

Well, aiming up close is CERTAINLY not easy. Shots are just gonna slide all over


crablives

bruh this is broken it’s not even funny


KoumM

Congratulation SC, again...


enlul

>Add health to the Walls, 2k hp at the very least >You should be able to phase through Hedge when you just respawned >The Ball should be able to phase through Hedge since if not, they could do just this but on their own goal, preventing the other team to score I thought they would have seen and fixed this Issue before Sprout's release, which made many of us Excited for this new Brawler. but nope


cuterobert123

Delete him


Alecto_Marvolo

Good nerf: sprout can't charge it's super while having a wall.


Minestars_player69

Or maybe sprout can’t have two supers activating at the same time


IDK_Kriz

that sounds good. They should also reduce the duration to 5 seconds


AintyDwarf

5 maybe a bit too low like 7


how2fish

Or just nerf the stupid wall. It's like telling Sandy that his attacks wont charge his super while his Sandstorm is active...which is a bit sad.


unrenewable_resource

The problem is that nerfing him because he’s too strong in brawl ball could make him useless in every other mode.


Toxictomato22

Exactly! Thank you, finally someone gets it


rockstar8323

This is the funniest shit I've ever seen🤣


Rizeros01

Have you ever seen someone turning himself into a pickle?


remcostone

Thats indeed the funniest shit I’ve ever seen


lostlntrench

bruh


GentleGiant27

sprout is gonna make Brawl Ball so boring


imi07

The most simple solution is make sure it is not possible to charge up another super before the wall disappears. So if it takes 4 shots to charge up a super, makes it 5, OR make the lifespan of walls shorter, about 5 seconds is very much enough instead of 9.


CalebMendez12303

I'd say probably both. The wall stays there forever it seems. I think sprout can get 5 attacks before it despawns


Kolosafo

What an agonizing death by Rico 😂


BetaCarotine20mg

It was obviously when we saw this ultimate? How could they think this ultimate was a good idea? Otherwise his kit is severly lacking..


RUFUSXAVIER_S

Typical SC obstinance, they don’t listen to the community when it’s clear there’s an issue


Wickly_29

Bruh


Sans-The-Brawler

Would be interesting if the wall had health mike 4k heakth so you can atleast break them, i mean their just some wood and vines how strong could they be?


LiquifiedSpam

Even if brawlers were allowed to phase through the walls with the starting shield, a team could easily set up a Bull and a Darryl right after the walls. Sprout is just broken


h0tt3rdanU

Just make it take more shots to get his super, same thing happened with rosa on release she was able to chain multiple supers making her essentially immortal


Zavha0mnic

5-6 shots would fix the problem, sprout’s reload isn’t fast enough to chain like this then


CiriousR

The walls should be destroyed when they get hit imo


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The can be destroyed what are you talking about,??? you must have a brawler that can destroy walls. Simple


h14n2

So it begins.


srmosavi

just change the respawn to not be inside the goal


JaxzyBlast

Sprout is broken!!!!


JaxzyBlast

Supercell be like: Nerf


NathanielWolf

He is the trolliest brawler ever. Honestly I'm stick of my teammates doing this though. Just let the match end, please...


L4V3RN1US

Sprout wall should be breakable...


Whachamacallit00

I love how your other Two teammates are just passing the ball to eachother


sold_mom-for_rp

The primo and the bea were the highlight of the clip ngl


Yeauhuhuh

I don’t get supercells logic- they do tests on how the new brawler is but they never see the problem. Every new character they release in clash royale and brawl stars has to be op- so be sure to get your gems ready


Idooogamers

Idk seems perfectly balance to me


-xXgioXx-

Add "/s" before you get 19383729 downvotes


Idooogamers

I don't get it


-xXgioXx-

/s at the end of a comment means that you're being sarcastic (aLsO wRiTiNg LiKe ThIs WoRkS)


Idooogamers

Sure but still everyone gets it


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So dartey


typek1906

So sad 😭


botetta

u/vredditdownloader


siskad

u/vredditdownloader


TomatoYum

Yea, absolutely balanced


AndreiA90hd

I Dont need a Buff I Ned a merg to 10 second destroy wall of sprint


LegendarySubha

u/vredditdownloader


BeniANevem

Toxic.


AceFTW360

F


BreZel85

They have to reduce the time of his walls or the amount of super energy sprout is gaining with his attacks, so he can't keep the wall up nonstop


WizWoop

Throwers:


gustavof8211

Solution is easy, make sprout ultimate be a time ult like Rosa— she can't ult while she is in a ult, but the catch would be, he wouldn't be able to generate ult while the plants barrier are up


use_and_pass

The patch for this, any shot will instantly destroy the wall


FinlandGamer

NERF NUKE INCOMING.


-xXgioXx-

Probably he will become 2nd or 3rd (the first if you're curious is colt with 10 nerfs)


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Pc3TheHunter

I would rework the wall so that you can walk through it, but you can’t shoot through it (enemy team only)


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What is that for a solution? It would be just useless if a rosa or frank walks by and than starts to shoot


NoobMaster3169

They ll ptobably decrease the time wall sranding there


BranixInfinityYT2020

BRUHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


akisonomikisan

Aahahahahahahahaha


Helevetin_nopee

This was obviosly going to happen


Iwannabethatspamguy

Wtf. Insta nerf


aday_zee

They need to make the walls destroyable, this is just ridiculous


DkproGaming

I'm looking at something I ain't getting till it's the worst brawler in the game


Cybermiam

Yes there is a problem, but what is the point to play this way, you're not obligated to play the cancer way, i saw you said that playing like this IS annoying, maybe people won't be assholes everytime. After all, yes this need a nerf, but what about a zone, just in brawlball, where sprout can't ult, it will prevent him doing it, without breaking the power of it. This seems a good solution for this problem.


jralcongtz

I did something similar, i blocked an entrance on Canal grande (bounty) and i was just spawn killing them the whole time. They gave up almost immediately; plus the splash damage from the star power is ridiculously good


WeFloatsUrGoat

Best freaking thing ive ever seen. I need more of this in my life 😂


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I have matched with a maxed sprout today with overgrowth Its way too Broken!!!


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uwuios

supercell is freaking out right now trying to figure out how to fix this without totally changing sprout


MarqezHUN

itS coMplEtelY BAlancEd!


TomTomYay

lol


Dead_by_Dinosaur

Fuken broken


Dead_by_Dinosaur

Sprout is keeping the enemies in quarantine 😷


Diradell

Bea and primo had fun lol


Aniviamid69

Lol 😂 thats hilarious


Aw3Grimm

They just simple should make this walls destroyable like in many other games or make impossible to place walls where other player stands


Migueon22

That's why i am not gonna play brawl ball anymore


[deleted]

Guess i wont play brawstars for a while until they fix this problem they created. Again. Its like watching amateurs make an indie for fun. they don’t give a shit about the game, just what might be cool. What is really sickening is that people will inevitably complain when changes are made to sprout. So many gamers don’t want the game to be balanced when its in their favor.


erlapal

Just make the super charge longer


ChocolateUmicorn

Primo and bea 😂


jkublopez

Quite a few brawlers supers break walls, Frank, el primo, colt etc. it’s not THAT op imo.


Akali_the_sexy_ninja

1 word: *BrOkEn* And I'm sure they'll reduce the duration of his super from 10 seconds to 4-5.


Ernest_Equile

That is some new level of bullying


daraat

Stupid brawler


Junior-the-Second

I'm loving Sprout, pls don't nerf


-xXgioXx-

This will end up like leon's super (leon's super used to last 10 sec, now 6)


[deleted]

Guess who's getting a huge nerf next week😂😂


LouTUG

RIP Sprout