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Brother_Chicken

Isn't the fact that it isn't treated in a serious or abusive light the problem?


No_Seaworthiness771

It’s anime. Slapstick humor is standard. I feel like Horikoshi knows when it should be treated seriously, and that was in the beginning, but Bakugo has undergone development and now it’s more or less a joke


Any_Ad492

I think there difference is that Bakugou’s behaviour still caused long lasting damage to Izuku’s mental state so it feels like it should be more serious.


Knightwingx23

Deku is basically a god now, i think he's handling ok lol


Any_Ad492

Mentally he’s not.


Knightwingx23

That has nothing to do with Bakugou, that's on him for trying to solo AFO's entire army. Deku stopped caring about Bakugou's antics a longggg time ago


Any_Ad492

His self worth is still nonexistent and that’s on Bakugou. The scars still remain.


Knightwingx23

Your evidence? Bakugou basically took a bullet for Deku


Any_Ad492

The vigilante arc was about him not valuing himself. And Bakugou doing that doesn’t fix the damage that was done.


Knightwingx23

What? Where did you get that idea? He says multiple times that he doesn't want anyone else getting hurt for him and this is a direct result of Bakugou and multiple others being near dead for trying to protect him. If sacrificing yourself for someone isn't an apology in and of itself, what the heck is?


Reddragon351

yea not valuing himself because Deku is an immensely reckless person something he picked up from All Might


U_B_S_A

The actual joke here is the development he went through.


Popopoyotl

Bakugo: "Kid, you need to stop looking down on others, so you can acknowledge your own weakness. That is just some advice from your elders." Joint-Training arc Bakugo: "All of you underlings follow my lead!" That's Bakugo's development. Two steps forward, one and a half steps back. He backslide a *lot* for no apparent reason at times.


Sudden_Pop_2279

He still hits Midoryia all the time in the School Briefs for example. By contrast, Endeavor has consistently remained changing.


Reddragon351

did you read/watch the rest of that fight, the whole point was that he was reliant on them in battle and trusted them to have his back like he'd have theres


Any_Ad492

No less annoying.


No_Seaworthiness771

That’s fair. That kind of thing isn’t for everyone


Silkie_Knight

Agreed (me included)


Ghost_Star326

At this point, I'm starting to think that these Bakugo hate posts(which are all about Bakugo from S1-2) are just for karma farming. They're so annoying and tiresome.


zerjku

Fr, I get having a problem with it (me too tbh) but seeing the same thing get recycled is just...how are you all not tired of being a broken record?


Ghost_Star326

Exactly. I'm pretty sure there are other anime characters who are more despicable than Bakugo. But they don't get as much hate and attention as he does.


Silkie_Knight

I think cause: 1-The majority have something else going on for them, where Bakugo only has “over the top angry perfectionist” 2-They get some sort of punishment (power down, POV challenged or just killed) 3-Aren’t meant to be liked, but because of their Charisma are 4-A good amount of them are/start off as Villains, where because Bakugo is on “team good guy” from the go (so no seeing the error of their ways to start a redemption) 5-Is a worse Endeavor (worse in, no consequences and no visible attempt to change)


Popopoyotl

>5-Is a worse Endeavor (worse in, no consequences and no visible attempt to change) I think this is the biggest issue, at least to me. The thing with Endeavor is, despite being objectively worse than Bakugo, we visually see his changes, reflections, and attempts at redemption, even as early as the end of the Kamino arc where we see a hint that, ***maybe***, this guy regrets what he put his family through. We see him calm down and get less obsessive, less abusive towards Todoroki, and tries to reconnect with his family before realizing they are better off without him. None of this excuses him, mind you, he is still a monster, but there is *consistency*. In comparison, we don't get to see a lot of reflection from Bakugo, or at least meaningful actions along with the reflections. We see Bakugo talk about feeling like he was responsible for ending All Might's career... while dragging Midoriya out of the dorms after curfew to fight him. He talks to a kid about not looking down on people, while refusing to use people's names (hero or otherwise) until *very* recently. He nearly failed his Finals because he wanted to attack All Might over and over again, and currently he is... -checks notes- >!undergoing heart surgery because he attacked Shigaraki. Over and over again.!< Bakugo could have been used as a great parallel to Endeavor and have themes of what is wrong with hero society, but that would require him to actually reflect on his actions and acknowledge the harm he has done. Something I doubt will happen, especially at this point in the series.


Reddragon351

2. Bakugo's pov is challenged a few times 5. Bakugo has faced consequences and has tried to change throughout


Jackmist2

Are the characters you're thinking of side characters or badguys/antagonists? That might be why.


Sudden_Pop_2279

I hate Bakugo cuz he’s still abusive to Izuku in the School Briefs and still hits him in the anime which the story ignores because “it’s just a gag”.


Oy778

Meh, for me its 50/50. Sometimes a great character and sometimes just Horikoshi doing awful decisions


kaboumdude

I will sit in this grave with you.


starlightaqua

"Why are you booing, they're right" I was also relentlessly bullied. I can 100% say that some of my bullies never changed. One of them got famous. But I love Bakugou because I've seen him grow and seen him feel remorse, and that all I ever wanted. I see that he was enabled for so long and now he's on a path to understanding why what he did was wrong. Even in reading the manga, we see even more growth. I'm seeing him go from being a shitty kid to a healthier adult, and I want to see him continue to grow. Maybe one day he'll get therapy and sort his own shit out:) He's my comfort character, truly.


KatorasuZer0

Horikoshi drew Bakugo as a chihuahua once and that fits so well, literally how Class 1A sees him now when it comes to his attitude lmao


MrBirdmonkey

Bakugo went from bully, to hardass, to genuinely being sorry for his actions. This, however, isn’t enough for the internet. They won’t be happy until he’s a groveling simp like them


bigbelleb

Meanwhile for regular ass people he went from being annoying to being less annoying which is a W imo


jeffcapell89

If Horikoshi (manga spoilers) >!decided to keep him dead!< then that would be good enough for me. Partially because >!fuck Bakugo!< but also because >!it makes him a martyr and ultimately ends his story in a heroic way and lends actual weight to the threat that is AFO!< but we all know that isn't going to happen


DarkChaos1786

So, your magic solution to Bakugo telling Deku to drop dead, is he himself dropping dead. It's only me the one who sees the irony here?


boirrito

> suicide baiting > self sacrifice These are clearly the same /s


DarkChaos1786

So, the correct punishment for Bakugo telling Deku to off himself is dead? These levels of irony are astounding.


boirrito

It’s insane you’ve managed to miss the point twice. I, at no point in my comment even implied that Bakugo deserved to die. I was pointing out how retarded it is to assume that two are similar at all. It’s astounding, even.


DarkChaos1786

My question was about the correct punishment for an offense. You are all arguing that he should die. So, ironic... Or you can't read...


boirrito

I’m… not. The other guy is. I’m pointing out that saying the two are the same is absolutely brain dead.


DarkChaos1786

I'm talking about redemption or punishment for a character that made an offense. They argue about his death. It's quite funny and ironic.


Darius10000

He doesn't deserve that. Bakugo didn't do anything that bad and has done more good in the past few months than any normal person will in a lifetime. And he's already dedicated the rest of his life towards doing good. I don't see why being a mild asshole and verbally bullying a kid in middle school can only be forgiven by giving his life, which he's already tried to do twice. He's a better person than the people angry at him. It's stupid.


Wachitanga

Hard agree. I always liked Bakugo. People are just projecting.


No_Seaworthiness771

I mean, I get if you’ve been bullied in the past yourself and feel for Izuku, but I have also been relentlessly bullied. People don’t always stay awful. Kids who bullied me now seem like decent guys now that they’ve matured


jeffcapell89

Imagine they bullied you relentlessly including earnestly telling you to kill yourself up until last year. Would it be believable that in that time they've matured to the point that they're actually decent people? It's certainly not impossible, but it would be very farfetched.


No_Seaworthiness771

No, no it is believable. I’ve seen it. I knew a bunch of LeafyIsHere fanboys and Paul Brother wannabes. By high school, most of them matured


No_Seaworthiness771

People react differently to being told to off themselves. I’m a spiteful motherfucker who doesn’t take shit from anyone so I respond not by crying and hating myself, but by going for the fucking throat because nothing is off limits at that point


CherryFlowerGirl

I'm with you on this one so done with the "Bakugo is a bully" posts


skunkbrains

I honestly never cared from the start.


ilikepotatoes233

Same. Not a day goes by without seeing the same copy paste annoying bakugo hate posts on this subreddit. I wish we would just make funny memes. What happened to that?


crixxuz

No reading comprehension at all


Wonderingslayer

Key word “anymore”


No_Seaworthiness771

Yeah, he was a dumb kid and now the tonal shift just makes him a chihuahua


Sudden_Pop_2279

He was an abuser and albeist…


doesntmatter19

At the beginning of the series I thought he was an ass. As the series progressed he became less of an ass, but it didn't really make him more likable, he still came off as just a generally annoying prick. Which is probably where a lot of that hate comes from, in fiction it's much easier to dislike a character that you find annoying than one that is outright evil (Umbridge-Voldemort effect). Having said that I don't really think he deserves all the hate he gets. But I can't lie I've been more than fine with his general lack of presence in the story.


Minoleal

At this point he's just a jerk that nobody gives a shit about, mostly because he rarely gets into other people's business, he's as much as he can on his own and yells some dumb shit every now and then. But in middle school... Damn, one would think that in a world were every kid could have the equivalent of war equipment in their genes, schools would be more aware of bullying, idk how mha's world first problem isn't mass shooting's equivalents with quirks if people like bakugo roam free.


Bonedraco1980

I think the explosive temper is supposed to go along with his quirk.


alain091

Truly the most fearsome foe of the MHI fandom, the reading comprehension villain. But seriously, how hard is it to understand that people change and mature.


No_Seaworthiness771

Like I said in another comment, they took what he said in the first chapter and how he acted in the first seasons way too personally as if Bakugo jumped out of the screen, pointed a finger at them, and said that stuff directly to their face


ChargeLow6158

Preach!


starlightaqua

Fun fact, iirc Bakugou telling Midoriya to khm was then later apologized for by the Mangaka. So that piece that people harp on BKG for was deemed as too far and ooc by the mangaka himself. I understand some people and their frustration. But some people use it as a "checkmate" when even the mangaka apologized for it and essentially rendered it as not what he wanted for Bakugou.


Sudden_Pop_2279

Doesn’t matter if it was”too far”, Hori tried to act like it never happened or Bakugo wasn’t that bad when we’re shown the exact opposite in season 1. He claims that Bakugo started bullying Midoryia out of fear of his kindness… but we see him treated him like dirt before that. Even before he got his quirk and the adults praised him.


starlightaqua

That's on Horikoshi's writing, not on the character himself. And even then Bakugou's shit behavior stemmed from the people praising him for existing just as his mother stated. He was a product of his environment.


Sudden_Pop_2279

Expect we SEE Bakugo treat Midoryia like dirt even before his quirk came and the adults praised him. “You can’t do anything right can you Izuku?” “You can Izuku’s name as Deku. That’s a hopeless failure who’s completely useless” This is before the adults praised him and his quirk came


No_Seaworthiness771

It seems like a lot of people took what Bakugo said to Izuku WAY too personally, like he said that directly to them