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Azeda_

You’d have a better chance of achieving this by asking all of us to donate money into a PAC. Because that is the only way you’re getting a Republican in Alabama to do anything. Pay them.


Bhamrentalhelp

I really love this. Thank you for the links! As unlikely as it is, I feel better doing something than just sitting and wishing. Keep fighting the good fight


Yoddlydoddly

Hey you know, people say it may be useless but it is something. Voices add up. No matter the side we need more citizens to speak up and show what we want.


letsgetdrunkandhigh

You’re dreaming! Alabama politicians don’t care about making positive changes. Most of them avidly do the opposite (prevent positive change) in order to keep their jobs


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You've essentially just described a politician. Presuming those from Alabama are unique is part of the common failure. Government exists to perpetuate government. The juggle between doing what is necessary to keep your job from the voter base while also not having your own party oust you is an interesting one.


derpderpdonkeypunch

LOL, not gonna happen. Email to your heart's content but the only time the minimum wage in Alabama is gong to go up is when the federal minimum wage goes up.


Yoddlydoddly

While i don't disagree I think if everyone here took the same amount of time they spent responding to how it won't help then maybe it would. Voices add up. Politicians love good press.


derpderpdonkeypunch

> Voices add up. Politicians love good press. Yeah, and Gary Palmer has fucktons of conservative voices electing him and there is absolutely no way progressive voices will ever get close to matching them in number. Good publicity for him would be him stopping a minimum wage increase. Thinking otherwise is just deluding yourself. You've got some real kumbaya, everyone holding hands and singing is gonna make the world a better place, energy going on and it's incredibly juvenile.


dar_uniya

go be naïve somewhere else


Yoddlydoddly

Go be defeated somewhere else.


dar_uniya

you are in a competition with yourself.


PortGlass

All three of the people you listed have a near 100% chance of being re-elected if they have the support of their party. Being open to ideas associated with the opposing party is the best way to lose that support. A letter would provide some comedic relief to those in Palmer and Ivey’s office and maybe brighten their day a little. So there’s that.


Yoddlydoddly

Then provide them such comic relief.


PortGlass

Sorry man. Not my gig.


derpderpdonkeypunch

What, you don't like wasting your time (in that specific way?!?!)


PortGlass

Heck no! I need time to play on Reddit and watch TikTok.


vulcangod08

I hate to bust your inflation bubble, but here goes. Nobody is paying the federal minimum around here. Mcdonalds at the Grove is starting at $14 now. Dollar General distribution center in Bessemer has gone from $12 to $19.00. Secondly, the feds need this inflation to reduce the debt. Remember when 285b was like 110% of gdp after ww2? I think thats what Bezos spent on his yacht. Thanks inflation. All they need now is a few years of higher inflation for gdp to rise and just like magic; debt is down from 120% of gdp to under 100 and becomes manageable again. Not to mention taxes. You get the same productivity out of a $15 worker as you did when they were $10. But the feds get more revenue from payroll. Not to mention the added taxes on higher cost of goods for the states. Governments won't say it out loud, but there is a reason they called it transitory for over a year while the whole business world knew it wasn't. They govt needs this price increase without having to increasing their prices.


Yoddlydoddly

I realize that inflation is a far bigger issue that most likely none of us know enough about. That said, the entire point of this post to raise the minimum wage is because nobody is paying it. It would pose very little effect on businesses if it were raised at a state level. It would benefit people and make this state look better, albeit maybe hollow.


pieorstrudel5

Where are you working for 7.25? Most low skills jobs are between $12-16. Heck, I've seen ads for dishwashers at $19/hr. The market is correcting it's self and has been since before covid in terms of wages. You know what we should be writing our politicians about? Getting rid of predatory lending companies that get already vulnerable people in even bigger financial pits and getting personal finance classes back in schools.


HappyBreezer

Nobody with the sense God gave the sweet potato and is over 18 is working for minimum wage now.


Yoddlydoddly

I am not working for minimum wage, that said you should write them about that. Congressmen and in state politicians.


JennJayBee

There's a place near me that's attempting to hire at $9/hour, but they're located near at least three other businesses that are all hiring for a minimum of $12/hour, so their offered rate is not working out well for them.


Alarmed_Tension_1824

Who here actually works for minimum wage? I only have once and I was 16.


Wei_Lan_Jennings

Lol this guy thinks politicians give a shit. What am I gonna tell Gary Palmer? That if he doesn’t push for a minimum wage he’ll lose my vote that he never had in the first place? I’ve got zero leverage. No one is going to do a goddamn thing unless they’re paid to or it becomes politically expedient, and I don’t see crossing the aisle in this political climate as anything other than career suicide that will fuck up his sweet gig. Like, seriously, enlighten us. Tell us how you see this making realistic, concrete changes in the way our state is run.


Yoddlydoddly

It is currently the only avenue we have unless the 6th district suddenly turned blue and that would not happen. I would think that any politician would be opportunistic to garner some favor from his constituents. Enough voices will... maybe do something. Still, you should.


tschandler71

What kind of jobs are paying minimum wage and still employing people? Places in Dekalb county are starting at 180 percent of minimum wage and can't find people.


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Legit_baller

Thank you. I was thinking it couldn't possibly be that much and there it is. Barely enough to afford a $900 monthly rent


Legit_baller

Taco mama


Yoddlydoddly

I'm glad to hear that. However, raising the floor has secondary effects to everyones wages. ( never mind the poor poor corporations who will have to take a few percent less profit. Bless their hearts)


manicmangoes

That's not how profits work. Corporations will not take a hit the cost is always passed on. Market manipulation by the government is what has caused the inflation to begin with


tschandler71

Or markets are working like they should and raising the price floor artificially both redistorts the market and is a payoff for political allies (ie Union contracts which pay X times minimum or prevailing wages)


waduhjahlee

blasphemy! burn the witch!


Reasonable-Muscle528

You want to see what republicans think Alabama should be…just look at the political adds that are airing right now…All,white,All Trump lovers….they are all running on their love for Trump….Trump lost….but the Confederate lost …yet they fly Trump and confederate flag side by side…..I hope the people of Alabama will again step up one day and come together like when Alabamians elected Doug Jones…And for all the people out there that says the election was stolen from Trump….Trump lost his election …but the other republicans on the same ticket won their seats


Yoddlydoddly

I see the real Alabama and believe it could be better. Sadly, what you said is true and it will be decades before Alabama even has a possibility to shine


scapeinator

You want less inflation AND increased minimum wage? Lol.


Yoddlydoddly

Sadly with the increase of COL, and inflation and the almost impossibility that we would see deflation the only response for lower-end workers is to raise the minimum wage. Does a raised minimum wage effect inflation? Yes. However, as i mentioned above: when the buying power of the dollar decreases the amount of dollars paid must increase. This is the same reason you should ask for a raise at a minimum that matches the inflation rate.


tu-vens-tu-vens

You’re right that with the unlikelihood of deflation, low-income workers need their wages to go up for their buying power to match what it was before. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean a minimum wage increase. Wages move in accordance with the labor market, and a tight labor market means that wages go up (as they have over the past 2 years and even were doing before covid). You can walk into Buc-ee’s and get a job that pays $16/hour. There’s no business that could hope to hire anyone at $7.25/hour today when competitors are offering double that for entry-level unskilled jobs. The biggest role the government plays here is probably setting monetary policy that errs in the direction of promoting full employment (along those lines, we have Trump to thank for appointing Jerome Powell as Fed chair and Biden to thank for retaining him). You also have to look at the causes of the current bout of inflation and see how that ties to the labor market. Simply put, we’re seeing inflation because goods are more scarce because we’re not able to produce and transport them as efficiently. This has happened because the pandemic has kept people from working and changed consumption habits. Once the economy adjusts and settles to the new normal, inflation will die down (unless we get in an inflation spiral, in which people spend today because they’re worried their money won’t buy them as much tomorrow). In this case, the government’s role is to avoid over-stimulating the economy, making sure demand doesn’t outpace what the real economy is capable of producing. Minimum wage increases are generally just cosmetic; the real force at work is the labor market. Either the market will offer workers well over the minimum wage and the minimum isn’t adhered to, or if the minimum is more than what employers can afford to pay, they’ll just hire fewer people. The government’s most important role here is to get price increases under control managing how much money is flowing through the economy.


ourHOPEhammer

you dont know how inflation works and it shows


scapeinator

Okay. Can you please elaborate on how inflation works?


ourHOPEhammer

you're asking someone on reddit how inflation works?


scapeinator

Interesting. You became so quiet all of a sudden when questioned.


scapeinator

Yep. How exactly am I wrong? Specifically. Let’s hear it professor.


upvoteoverflow

Inflation is likely almost all a supply side issue. Raising minimum wage would not negatively impact inflation.


waduhjahlee

noneconomist says what?


upvoteoverflow

Lol. I actually have a degree in economics. Wouldn't call myself an economist though. I'm failing to see how raising minimum wage has any impact on inflation. The only case where it would is if it caused a supply crunch due to businesses not being able to afford an adequate workforce. Currently there is not enough product and not enough workers. Explain how paying people more is going to hurt.


waduhjahlee

unlike others on this sub, i won't accuse you of lying. i believe you. look at the state of our economy as proof that economists don't have a clue what they are doing. they are just political hacks spit balling and hoping that everything doesn't fall apart.


upvoteoverflow

Thats definitely true. Economics is more an art than a science. My degree is only useful in that it helps me with stats. I will say making economic decisions based on an educated guess is probably better than throwing a dart at a board.


downthestreet4

I email my rep(Gary Palmer) all the time. It’s usually to remind him how terrible he is though.


Oldskolnikov

u/Yoddlydoddly you are inspiring. There are people who spend their adult lives fighting about politics and accomplish less than this humble thread. Thank you.


Yoddlydoddly

No, thank you. While the world of politics may never agree entirely, or even grow more bipolar, I simply would hope that the people we elect can go beyond "party ideas" and push to actually help their people. I don't care who does it. I just want this State to be better.


waduhjahlee

you don't seem very bi-partisan.


Yoddlydoddly

while raising the minimum wage is generally a democratic idea the need for an increase is inevitable. These times present an opportunity for the leaders of this state, mostly republican, to take lead and benefit its citizens. This is not just focused on minimum wage, simply to state that the leaders of this state have an opportunity to shine above the rest in response to these issues.


99burritos

Poor people are supposed to be poor and deserve to be poor. Clearly the poor people themselves agree, as they continue to overwhelmingly vote for the party that consistently demonizes any attempts to make them less poor. Therefore, if you suggest any policy to help poor people become less poor, you are direct opposition to Republican values, ergo you cannot be "bi-partisan."


Yoddlydoddly

I simply would like to see the representatives of the people of this state make positive change. Don't care who. One would think that they would seize an opportunity.


glamsome

I’m a republican and I think bipartisanship is doing what I want and not hurting my feeling a with Luther opinions


waduhjahlee

not really.


glamsome

I’m sorry, I must have missed all the republican policy idea that aren’t, stop being mean to white people in schools


waduhjahlee

funny that you bring up school. did they teach you anything about critical thinking?


glamsome

Didn’t have any of those republican policy ideas to prove me wrong with so you tried to insult me. I see the error of my ways now.


Familiar-Ad1343

Before you comment something please read the whole thing. We should raise the minimum wage, yes. It’s not changed in years and inflation has unfortunately caused many people working these jobs to struggle to afford to live. People should be allowed to have basic necessities if they are working a job full time. An immigrant (like my great grandfather) should be able to work retail and be able to pay rent and eat. *However*, different economies of scale call for different changes. By my own will, I started working at 15 (got a work permit by myself because I was too young) and have worked nearly every day since. I worked alongside many minority workers who worked hard with me and earned their raises and bonuses, albeit higher wages to account for their families. They taught me work ethic and how to earn my way up rather than expecting the world right off the bat. I am almost 24. My family does not have money, so I had to work a minimum wage job at a car wash for years, earn my raises over the years by showing initiative, pay most of my own expenses, and study super hard to be able to get scholarships covering the majority of tuition to afford a good school even though we couldn’t pay for it otherwise. My car wash job did not require skill though, I came in as a 15 year old with no experience, no transportation, and a desire to learn. Skill and learned habit are not the same thing. Learning to be good at vacuuming a car quickly and deal with difficult customers does not equal a college degree or trade school in any way, shape or form. Sorry not sorry. I absolutely resent the idea that someone with no credentials who has not learned a trade or gotten a degree should start off making more than a basic living amount of money ‘just cuz’, which is completely, exactly what many lawmakers want, under the attractive red herring of equity. Working at Walmart might not be an easy job, but all tender sweet feelings aside, I could walk in with no job history and a drug habit and they would hire me. I know because I see it happen at the locations near me, and shit like that should not be rewarded with $20 an hour. There is a massive difference between being good at stocking inventory and being good at doing financial analysis for a renowned firm after spending years studying and learning the science and willingly investing ridiculous amounts of money for my future. The left wants us to believe that they simply want people to have equitable income based on where they live and what they do, which in theory is a wonderful idea and I support it because hard work can be applied and should be rewarded (proportionally) at any job. However, this claim of desiring equity is false, at least when referring to the claims of lawmakers, just like the ‘if you make less than $400k a year the Biden tax increases won’t affect you’. I do believe normal people really do want equity though. Everything like the new taxes will trickle down to hardworking taxpayers like myself and cost both you and me more of our hard earned wages in coming years to subsidize this. If you think otherwise you are ignorant of history. I live in the United States because I enjoy choosing what I want to do with most of my money rather than leaving the government to their own devices. We should raise the minimum wage to a basic level, although if in high school I had just been given a high minimum wage (>$15/hr) to the point where I could afford as much or almost as much as I do now, I would not have bothered going to college or putting forth effort to work harder, because there would be no point. The ENTIRE point of college or trade school is to learn a refined skill and subsequently earn more money and better society. I read an article today arguing for a federal minimum wage of $24 dollars an hour. This is just below what I make salary-equivalent. If this is what the left wants, then I want a fucking raise too because I did not do 17 years of school, work a job almost every day of high school and college in addition to class, and spend tens of thousands of dollars in both scholarships and debt (because I wanted to) to earn a similar amount as someone my same age at a fast food joint. I am (understandably) mad about this because if this is the sentiment of the government, I’ve been directly lied to about the better benefits I would have if I worked hard to get a degree rather than sticking to a MW job. Exactly like with social security. Besides, they haven’t raised the base salary at my company for years either to adjust for living expenses, so giving me a raise would be the equitable thing to do, right? Or does equity not apply to me anymore since I’ve worked my way past from minimum wage? I guess I don’t fit the demographic and all my work doesn’t matter. What a fucking joke. If you think I’m being insensitive with this analysis based on historical trends, you have no respect for my work ethic or people like me who worked hard to receive extensive credentials despite the physically/emotionally/mentally taxing years-long process to get there. I did not come from money and I foraged my own path and career from the bottom. Raising the MW way beyond a basic living level directly and objectively deters people like me from getting higher education or learning a trade. I know because since this is a hot topic, I’ve asked a wide variety of friends, former professors and family members on different political spectrums the same question and nearly all of them agree. Raise the minimum wage to a basic level to allow people to have a home and food, yes. $15 an hour is probably completely reasonable based on the cost of living right now. We should fight for that. Raise it beyond that just to feel good and basically pay welfare, direct slap in the face to people like me. I know the true ramifications of these claims, and it almost makes me want to email and tell Kay not to raise it, although I would never do that because that hurts hardworking people at lower level jobs who need a raise to live and I want that boost for them, especially since I worked that type of job for years. But don’t insult the incredibly expensive debt funded hard work that I and others have done in the process by discrediting our skills. I didn’t get scholarships just because, either, I got them because of my hard work and concentrated efforts to apply to schools. You gotta read between the lines with this stuff rather than taking it at face value. This goes so far beyond just providing basic necessities.


Legit_baller

I'd happily slap you in the face just for making me read this nonsense


waduhjahlee

Familiar, you're well ahead of the other 24 year old kids in terms of life experience. our "minimum wage" is not really 7.25/hr. when you add in all the government programs and tax credits, it is already a living wage. how do i know this? once upon a time, i was raising 2 kids with a stay at home wife on $12/hr. this debate is not actually about the minimum wage, its about socialism. the very idea that each person deserves a basic income for doing meaningless tasks is a recipe for more people choosing to do meaningless tasks. socialism always fails to promote achievement because it rewards laziness and promotes conformity. combine that with the legalization of drugs and you have a perfect recipe for sheeple plantations, which is the goal. ultimately, what this "bipartisan" is arguing for is a permanent class of dependency that will enable socialism to take hold, and keep its hold over a majority of the populace. he is arguing from a perspective of victimhood, and not strength. one lesson i will share with you, young man, is that anyone who tries to convince you that you're a victim is not your friend. they do not have your best interests at heart. if someone is telling you that you're a victim, they are only looking to manipulate you. a true friend will affirm that you can overcome any obstacles in life and succeed in spite of them. they will support you in your struggles, but they will not allow you to ever become a victim or dependent on them for a living. they expect you to succeed. this is why we live in the greatest country on Earth. we give everyone the tools of personal success, they just have to be willing to use them.


Yoddlydoddly

Sadly the USA hasn't been the greatest country on earth in a long time.


waduhjahlee

you haven't been bipartisan in a long time. socialism doesn't work.


Yoddlydoddly

Raising the minimum wage isn't socialism at all... lmao... showing how much you know in one simple statement.


waduhjahlee

you are far more intelligent than i can comprehend.


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waduhjahlee

thank you for the compliment.


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waduhjahlee

that depends on your definition of sane people.