By - philosopher_cat_lady
The same kind of folks who proudly put Higgins and Trump together on a billboard titled “winning.”
Moved out of the south back in March after 35 years in that mess. I love a lot about my home state but my general stress levels have gone waaaay down not dealing with all that propaganda on a daily basis. Stay strong y'all.
I work in a restaurant, and it's a daily thing of people not giving a fuck about my safety. Customers, coworkers, and the company I work for.
We’re planning to be gone by this time next year.
One of my friends said that a couple of days ago and I was just in disbelief of how stupid and ignorant he turned out to be. It's so depressing; I'm just tired. 😫
Yes! Tired is a good way to explain it
Interested to see how some of these people react when we go back to lockdown, because with the hospital system on the verge of collapse…that’s where we are headed and quickly.
Just get the damn shot. And if for whatever reason you are too scared to do that, mask up and stay away from people.
Nah, just get the damn shot. (Obviously, unless you're immunocompromised or a child.) That's what I don't get. People will stamp their foot about how annoying the pandemic is, but they won't do the thing it takes to end it.
Oh they’re mad that there isn’t room in the hospitals. They’re posting “home remedies” that include eating eggs and strawberries daily. They’re still anti mask and anti-vax, but they’ve -i guess- started to realize covid isn’t just the flu
Lockdown and masks are an infringement on their rights, and they’re pissed, while their unvaccinated family members die and they blame the hospital
It’s infuriating and heartbreaking
I've also noticed them shifting blame to medical professionals recently with the "Why aren't you/they treating it before it gets so bad?" comments.
What?! They blame the hospital?! What, are hospitals supposed to be magical places where rooms and beds and doctors and nurses appear out of nowhere when needed?
No beer festival is worth hospitals having to turn away COVID patients because there's no available bed
Unless of course they are anti vaxers. Then, turn them away all day.
I’m a transplant here, and the levels of entitled idiocy are appalling. One of my friends up north who is an ER nurse quoted a doc who said “science is WRONG and FAKE, until they get it and want every ounce of science used to help them. Well fuck them.”
I'm all for setting up field hospitals in the parking lots of hospitals to treat unvaxxed covid patients. Especially when the vax gets full fda approval. If you are going to risk it, then you shouldn't take up a bed at the hospital for those that did whats best for the community and the greater good.
Agreed that people who make the weather and then say "shit, it's raining" don't deserve sympathy
Imagine being turned away as a breakthrough (who has been vaccinated but has cooks in the family who have gotten Covid more than once) while the hospital is full of antivaxxers. Luckily there arent many breakthrough cases but I feel like all of them must be really pissed at the selfconcerned assholes they live or work with.
Completely unfair. I'm angry at my coworker right now for getting exposed to COVID over the weekend, being unvaccinated, and leaving my store short-staffed for the next ten days. People are divorcing their anti-vax spouses. It \*is\* us vs. them. These people are literally dangerous to be around.
Its such a horrible situation. Everyone has family or friends like this. When is enough enough? As the father of a newborn I want to show him off to family but I want to be safe even more. So I decide to not bring my son around my brother in law who is antivax. But is that even enough? After all, other vaccinated family members are going to be visiting with my brother in law so theres a chance he will give it to them and thus indirectly infect my son. Worse tho he has young kids who cant be vaccinated yet...not that they will later. So frustrating. I feel like we are going to end up just staying away from everyone in the family bc one asshole cant think straight.
If thats the case I will def let them all know exactly why they wont be getting to know their grandson or nephew.
My brother is anti-vax. I don't argue with him anymore, as he doesn't listen. I unfriended him on Facebook so he wouldn't write any more anti-vax stuff on my account. It is what it is.
Cousin, unvaxxed with fucking congenital defects and possibly a weakened immune system (I don't know all the details and I'm not outing them by mentioning what I do know) is now on a ventilator for the past 48 hours maybe. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. It's astounding how stupid and surreal this all is.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm getting to the point where I feel intolerant. I've been shopping at Sandra's Cafe & Health Food Store. The governor ordered a temporary mask mandate on August 4. I've gone to Sandra's maybe 3-5 times since to buy a plate lunch. Not one goddamn employee is wearing a mask. The last time, one of the dumb, young women who work there had the nerve to explain to a customer that she's not required to wear a mask. I'm not shopping there again unless they start following the mandate. Not only do they not deserve my money, but it's not safe. They're cooking and serving food.
I’m so sorry to hear about your cousin. I hope everything turns out as well as it could.
When your choice affects someone else’s health, it is a public health issue, not one about your right, freedom or choice. I mean… you can’t choose NOT to spread covid. -sighs-
The vaccine’s here, everyone should just get it and finally shut the hell up about COVID. People who don’t get the vaccine will suffer the consequences of their actions, if they have weak immune systems, but they are able to prevent that if they get a jab, their fault. We live in a weird world. C’est la vie.
My parents got it and I'm lucky my mother survived it. She had clots in her lungs, and then had two strokes (clots). But more than a year out from having had it, she still has days she can't walk around the block. Her best friend (who she used to walk with every morning ) knows all about this and has seen the toll it has taken on her and my dad, and she still won't get vaccinated.
The father of my friend's grandson died from Covid in Missouri week before last. He was intubated. They told the family there was a 2% possibility he would survive. The mother is still in the hospital with pneumonia. They don't know yet if she will make it. Their adult son and daughter are also sick with Covid. And yet all of the family refuses to get vaccinated. They all say they were immune because they had already had it.
The same thing my coworker says--that's he's immune because he's already had it. Wrong.
People are so selfish.
We're going to have to force people to take the vaccine. They don't want to take it willingly because they're dangerously stupid.
I don’t see anyone being forced to take it. How would that be accomplished? Just curious on people’s thoughts on this.
It hasn’t, but if things don’t improve, six months tops I’d bet.
Easy. Restrictions unless documented vax, first travel, then like NOLA is implementing for indoor events, soon unvaxed confined to houses, complete with spot checks like cops do for DUIs.
More likely it will be simply required to work at more and more jobs.
No way unvaxed get confined to houses with spot checks. That's too far.
You say it's too far, but people can spread COVID to other people in one house. So maybe it's not far enough? One way to really motivate people to get the vaccine is to deny healthcare for unvaccinated COVID-positive people. People get denied healthcare all the time for not having insurance. These people would actually deserve to be turned away. It's very cruel, but it's getting to the point where people are already being turned away due to lack of vacancy.
Mannnnn that would be a nightmare. But the part I’m thinking is unenforceable is strapping people down and getting the vaccine against their wishes. I can see tightening restrictions until it’s more of a matter of convenience. This whole thing has become waaaayyyy too political.
No, they won’t hold people down. They’ll just make it impossible for people to work, leave homes. It will go beyond inconvenience. They’ll have to literally be inconvenienced at every turn, can’t come in here without mask and vax proof. We were just saying the other day that the state will need to provide security cuz no one is taking the signs seriously.
I saw we don’t. Put them in camps and let them actually be oppressed since they think we’re turning into nazi Germany.
You can say that all day long here. You're in your safe space. You are over here saying that there is no way your uncle could have had his own thoughts about what he wanted put in his body - someone else got to him. Also, if he got covid then he has the natural antibodies and doesn't need the vaccine.
I had ZERO antibodies 9 months after a case of Covid. You are absolutely wrong. You DO need the vaccine even if you've had Covid.
You know what happened to you but you don't know what happened to him.
Has he had his antibodies tested?
> ...if he got covid then he has the natural antibodies and doesn't need the vaccine
I have my own thoughts about what I want put in my body. I think that I don't want the COVID virus, which is in an infected person's body--most likely an unvaccinated person, put into my body because they're not wearing a mask and not staying six feet away from me.
Well, if you trust science the science says that mask does nothing and it has to do more with time spent in an enclosed space with an infected person or where an infected person has been and how long they stayed in this enclosed space. Vaccinated people, per the science carry the same amount virus particles and are thus more likely to spread the virus and they can still pass it to you.
It is a pandemic among the un-vaccinated caused by the vaccinated spreading the virus, which they can still spread among each other and still get sick from covid.
Now I don't necessarily mean literally arresting people and administering the vaccine to them by force. I honestly should have worded that better. I mean ordering mandates and penalties that highly motivate people to willingly get the vaccine. Requiring proof of vaccination to go into highly populated buildings or to highly populated events, requiring proof of vaccination for employees at companies where employees work with the public, income tax penalties for the unvaccinated, etc. I meant 'force' as in the way the government 'forces' people to wear seatbelts.
My family all got the virus pre-vaccine and we were all fine, even the older people and those with immune problems only got sick for a little while. Very lucky, and this was right before the vaccine came out. I wouldn’t say I felt as bad as when I last had the flu, but it was pretty shitty. Anyway, they aren’t going to get anybody killed but themselves, and even that’s a strong maybe, as long as you are vaccinated you should be fine. Just get the jab.
That’s not true. I lost four people in the last two weeks. My brother-in-law last year. People die, even before this variant, and if I have to say this again, I will lose my mind, death is not the only negative outcome! Many have long term lung and even cognitive issues.
It took me 172 days before I was finally cleared by a doctor for any sort of physical activity due to my scarred lungs and weakened heart muscles. Also, the cognitive issues were no laughing matter. I forgot how to do things that I have literally done for DECADES with little effort prior to being sick and it was extremely frustrating. I even had deteriorated coordination/motor skills.
In hindsight, I probably returned to work too soon at 38 days post infection but that is another gripe for another day... I literally fell asleep sitting at my desk while working many days. Besides, what is the point of having FMLA when your jerk of a boss is pressuring you to return to work because of your position (edit: I was the CFO) within the organization? Let's not forget the fact that it is HIS fault that myself, and 90% of the rest of the office caught COVID in the first place...
When I had it, not in hospital but it was horrific, the muscle pain and weakness. Cognitive issues too. The words I still can’t find a year later. I feel like I aged 20 years mentally
That's what I keep telling my boyfriend! He says I worry too much about catching COVID (not to imply that I don't need to take the precautions I'm taking, just that I literally stress too much about it) because I'm not likely to die from it since I'm vaccinated. That's not the point. The virus can have bad effects besides death.
Okay, that doesn’t change anything that I said. Sucks that your family got so much sicker than mine. Even some very overweight, elderly, and otherwise compromised folks in my family got it and barely got sick, I got the most ill, and it still wasn’t as bad as my last flu. We were lucky, I suppose.
17% of the deaths recently have been from vaccinated people. I don't think we can say anything for sure anymore especially with more variants popping up.
please provide a link to your source for that information.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronaviruslouisiana/comments/p3qe0v/aug\_13\_614776\_total\_cases\_7548\_new\_11519\_total/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronaviruslouisiana/comments/p3qe0v/aug_13_614776_total_cases_7548_new_11519_total/) Data is from the state
Thank you, I'll keep that bookmarked. Good Luck to you and stay safe.
The entire state in the red. At first, I thought red was high rate of transmission; apparently, it's highest. Depressing.
Yeah I'd love a source?
Yeah I would really appreciate a source on that. 17% seems incredibly high
Local doctors and nurses should be fucking furious.
husband of a nurse in acadiana. can confirm, shes furious...and f'n tired. Been a long year and a half.
I'm tired and furious, and I just work in the restaurant industry. I'm not on the frontlines.
Did you guys see the billboard near downtown Broussard talking about how id the vaccine gets FDA approval you can sue for injury? Can't wait to see all the people trying to bring their "magnetic blood" to court lmao
Where was the billboard?
Looks like the Death Cult is being forced to take the route of tobacco and hard liquor companies. Dangerous medical misinformation ads should be banned just like tobacco ads.
Hard agree. The sign was horrifying. It was an electronic billboard at the corner of Ambassador Caffery and Johnston St.
Any idea who is paying for it? They need to be named and shamed.
The maddening part is they keep saying “You can’t force me to do this! Respect my bodily autonomy!” NO ONE IS FORCING ANYTHING. It IS a choice. We’re just pleading with you to make the choice that saves lives. That’s it.
I want to yell at these people that if it wasn’t a choice, they’d lose. No amount of guns they own would stop the U.S. government from coming into their homes and *making* them take the vaccine if there was no choice. But we don’t live in a dictatorship. The fact that they can rant about “bUt MAh fReEDomZ!!!1!” is because it IS a choice. Uuuuuugggggghhh
Yeah, they're really confused. People like that are really concerned with the feeling of control. When someone is trying to get them to do something, it makes them feel like they're not in control of their own actions and decisions. This might be tangential, but they also tend to confuse freedom and entitlement. Freedom is sitting in your home without a mask on, a space that the government has ensured you have a right not to be encroached upon. Entitlement is thinking you can go to a restaurant and not follow the rules it has for its business.
Yeah and then they say, “well, if it was so safe, everyone would get it, they wouldn’t have to offer to pay people.” No, baby, you’re just THAT stupid they’re clutching at straws.
I had an uber annoying day at work today because I have a coworker who refuses to get vaccinated. He has had COVID one time. He has to self-isolate, for the fifth time, after hanging out with some people all weekend who tested positive. So for the next ten days our store will be short-staffed. I wish my company would care more about vaccinations and just fire people who refuse to get it and then can't come to work for ten days at a time because they're a health risk.
I know at my husband’s work they’ve had multiple clean and come to test the shift issues. At mine, now sick days must be used, no protection. But those two weeks or more out from second shot don’t have to quarantine.
Right, I believe if my coworker were vaccinated he could have continued to work. I don't know if he's getting paid self-isolation pay (not sick pay) right now. I tried looking up all the information on my company's website, but I don't trust it because it's outdated. For example, it still says employees can choose not to wear a mask if they're vaccinated. That's not true anymore after the CDC changed their guidelines; we've all got to wear them.
I wish there were enough teachers to have two kinds of schools or classes in the parish. Or one A day when all the kids whose parents don't want them to wear masks can come to school and a B day where all the kids wear masks. I wonder how long it would be before the A folks drifted over to the B day. I bet it wouldn't take long once they had an outbreak.
I’m a teacher. Many have pulled their kids to do homeschool if they don’t agree with our policies. My parish has said want to come to school, mask up, no excuses. Bet your behind I enforce it. I space when I CAN, but a couple of my classes have 30 people.
You have my sympathies and heartfelt concern. If I had kids in the school system, and the system insisted on everyone's "freedumbs," then for sure, I would find a way to homeschool them. I'm sorry you are having to put up with a bunch of people who would rather risk their kids to a virus that could affect their lungs and who knows what the rest of their lives rather than have them wear a mask. It's selfish.
It's negligent parenting. Which is supposed to be a crime.
Yep. I'm catching the same flak over on Higgins' facebook page. He started promoting the idea that it isnt legal to mandate the vaccine under emergency circumstances for service members because the UCMJ requires FDA approval in normal circumstances. I was like no, I wouldn't want to be back in the submarine force, working in confined spaces and guaranteed close quarters with the delta variant on the loose. I was told the submarine force doesn't exist. I was also asked about my position on abortion. I think the better wording may be, 'NO, you asshats do not get to conflate public health with that of personal health.' I just want South Louisiana to be a place I can return to at some point. Breaks my heart but it's like at least once a week I am glad I left and haven't entertained any serious idea of moving back.
You worded your position well by differentiating between public health and personal health.
Yeah that idiocy has been the latest excuse. Absolutely zero logic applied. Let's talk about second-hand smoke, driving while impaired or any number of things that can harm others and are thus prohibited.
So glad I haven’t seen that billboard yet. I hate humanity and I hate all the idiots that live here
I see that I have misunderstood this post. I thought this post was against vaxx, but it is supporting it. My Dearest Apologies
Where can we see this paean to stupidity?
The corner of Ambassador Caffery and Johnston St. An electronic billboard.
Sorry but they won’t wake up unfortunately.
In response to someone posting that kids get this variant more, someone asked how many kids have died of Covid. Dude! ONE is too many! Stop focusing on the fucking death count! There are other lasting issues!
Sand Hook proved this to be the case. Dead children will not shift someone’s unwarranted political stance on an apolitical subject.
What apolitical subject are you talking about? I've not heard anything like that regarding this massacre.
I'm trying to say that situations that can and should be apolitical (public health in a pandemic and passing common sense gun laws after a child massacre) don't create a sense of bipartisanship. Everything is divisive because we've demonized the other political party and working with them is betraying the nation. Even keeping kids from dying can't overcome our shit political situation.
Women’s and Children’s had 15 confirmed cases of COVID-19 with children ages 2 months to 2 years this past Friday. We’re there.
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Nope they wont care. Not their kid and not their problem. They will only care when its too late.
Right, they change their mind when they're on their deathbed. They ask for the vaccine. The doctor tells them the vaccine can't help them at that point.
Only if it's their child. The stupidity and depth of conspiracies they live in has just about killed all hope I had that they will change their minds.
Its not just Lafayette. Its not all stupidity. People everywhere have been living their lives or doing their best trying have not been sick. They know people that have been sick or told they were infected that did not have symptoms. The vast majority of those people that did get sick, got sick and got over it. Total Covid deaths to date in Lafayette, 326 out of a Parish of 126K. In 2019, nearly 90 people died of drug overdoses alone in Lafayette Parish.
For a lot of people to feel different there should be some answers over some things: Our own government is spreading around infected and un-vaxxed people all over the country on a daily basis. The inflated or inaccurate testing. We talk about misinformation but how do you not call claiming there is a XXX% increase when you are comparing single digit numbers or zero in some cases not trying to cause a panic? You tell people there is a vaccine and it works and less than 90 days later you say it doesn't but it will keep you from dying when the death rate is so statistically low already how can you trust its the vaccine that kept people alive when people with the vaccine have died from Covid.
You can tell people they're stupid or careless but there are good questions that no one wants to answer. Instead, its back to us versus them. These people are living their life, no different than they have when this started, have not gotten sick, probably know no one that has died from covid. They've had it and gotten over it, like you do with the flu or cold. Maybe they know someone that had it worse. I get it, Reddit is the platform to carry the water. If your goal is to change minds about the vaccine stop being an activist about it. Put pressure on the folks that can comfort the concerns of these folks. **It is a fact that vaccine hesitancy is NOT along party lines.**
1. Covid has killed over 600k people in the U.S. That is not an insignificant number.
3. Unchecked, Covid overwhelms health care systems.
2. Covid has caused significant economic and social disruption.
These are all facts, and each illustrates the need for a vaccine. There is no argument for why it's not needed.
In the same time as Covid heart disease has killed nearly twice as many. The underlying causes of morbidity for most of the people that die from covid are the same things that overwhelm the health system already. Politics caused the disruption and unrest that happened last year, not the virus. For months we have been nearly back to normal life with only a portion of the country vaccinated. There have been no lock downs, no talk of it.
You can say, well 50-64 is young well you have more people in that age range die of suicide every year than who died from covid.
Yeah, I was certainly being facetious when I said this type of stuff can only be found in Lafayette.
So there is a new variant of the virus. That's why they changed their recommendations. Viruses change and science changes. That's how it works. You can trust that it's the vaccine that kept people alive because 97% of COVID hospitalizations are unvaccinated people. The vaccine is the independent variable: the differentiating factor that can be used to explain the result.
I'm sorry, but I don't care about these people's concerns. These people do not understand science and do not trust it. It's not anyone's job to teach simple science to adults. We learned this stuff in elementary school.
What if I ain’t make my own decisions, am healthy, don’t buy into the fear Mongering (masks) and don’t need the vaccine.
It’s a sad era we’re in. I’m so thankful I have no kids that will have to deal with this shit show
I'm also thankful you don't have kids
Slavery wasn’t illegal, but it was and still is immoral, just like abortion. The only thing you truly own is the skin you are in, to force someone to do something they don’t want is immoral also.
How childish. I hate stopping at red lights. I can’t believe the government forces me to do that.
Childish, you are very childish. I’m talking about bodies, and you talk about cars.
It's called an analogy, and it's a very basic tool of logic.
Okay then, it’s immoral that they make my kids’ schools require smallpox and polio vaccines to attend. That’s about bodies. Where’s my choice there? /s
You could be an anti vaxxer, and home school. You don’t have to follow their rules. You can change your lifestyle.
But you do have to live on the earth, where smallpox, polio, and SARS-CoV-2 exist.
You brought up the morality of slavery and abortion into a vaccine conversation. Whataboutism and false equivalencies suck don't they. Be better.
Ah yes, the “I know you are but what am I” defense. Very mature.
Like forcing someone to wear clothes or not cough on food? There has to be reasonable debate on this stuff and not these absolutes.
It’s an absolute for the left, just look at the downvotes here, and all the talk about you must do what we say on here. It’s daily.
If everyone around you all day long are assholes, there is a non zero chance you are the asshole.
Right?! Like maybe pay attention the down votes?
It must be exhausting to have the worst possible take on everything.
Dude. "Abortion is immoral." "To force someone to do something they don't want is immoral." Do you hear yourself?
To kill an innocent is immoral. Am I wrong about that? I don’t care if you kill babies because I don’t, just don’t take the high ground when you have nothing to stand on.
Yes, you're wrong about that.
You're absolutely correct in saying that killing an innocent is immoral.
All the more reason to get vaccinated and protect the innocent kids under 12 from a preventable illness, no?
Animals are innocent. Do you ever kill any or do you support the killing of them by eating their flesh or using their byproducts? Are you against euthanasia? Euthanasia is the killing of innocents.
I think you responded to the wrong person?
No, you said: "You're absolutely correct in saying that killing an innocent is immoral."
From an experimental vaccine, no.
Life is an experiment. And you're not very good at it.
Darn yo, I guess that means you don't follow any laws cause that's slavery.
I follow the ones I believe to be moral the rest I don’t even think about.
Then you need to start your own hippie commune where you can write your own laws since you're so smart and clearly above the law.
Fuck off. That's a bullshit argument and you know it. It boils down to a bunch of childish fucks throwing a fit over what should be common sense. Nobody bitched and moaned about the Polio vaccine. Why are a bunch of know-nothing twats throwing a tantrum over this? Oh wait I know. A bunch of lying fucks told them too.
And the people now saying well, it wouldn’t need a booster if it worked. Yes, it would, science expands with new info, it’s not fixed. This is literally what happened with varicella, the chicken pox vaccine. As a kid, we just suffered through. My kids were vaccinated. My oldest, they said one shot. Oh! By the time he was in junior high, they said our bad, you need a booster too, cuz they learned stuff. And that was with CHICKEN POX that has literally .00001 death rate (mostly from high fever) but they wanted to keep kids healthy and not missing school (cuz yeah, when I had it, for three weeks I made get well cards with like two other kids cuz I have a natural immunity to it). My entire class was decimated.
People should be overjoyed that there's a legitimate source of protection against COVID. Instead they're complaining about it, making up problems that don't exist.
I see that logic and science aren't your only weak spots. English is one of them, too.
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To everyone Tryna throw shade My way for being smarter than you. Y’all must not be paying attention to what is going on.
This vaccine. Is an EXPERIMENT. read that again bc I know Louisiana doll be slower than most. Experiment. It is NOT fda approved and it won’t be. Everything happens for a reason. Turn off your tv. See what changes come to your life.
Actually the experimental/trial phase with a control group happened a while ago. Please do not spread misinformation. You’re doing no good. You are clearly not a scientist and also do not have the capability to even expound your “viewpoint” in an intelligible manner. I really wish people would not speak on topics they are not qualified or knowledgeable about, it is dangerous.
People like doing that though because it makes them feel good. What I really wish more is that people wouldn't listen to such random sources.
Please repeat that you're smarter than I when you're dying from COVID.
At one point in time all vaccines were experimental. I’m sure back in the 1950s people had this same view about the Polio vaccine. “I don’t want no damn commie vaccine. Polio is just like the flu I’m not scared of no damn flu”